Flynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (2 years 5 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 13625 times:
Figured I'd share this NYT article with you, dated June 21, 1989. If only? Some model companies (Schabak in particular) actually produced models, I've got one, a -300 version.
COMPANY NEWS; Engines to T.W.A. From Rolls-Royce
AP
LEAD: Rolls-Royce P.L.C. announced that Trans World Airlines Inc. had chosen its most powerful long-haul engine to power recently ordered Airbus A330 airliners in a deal worth more than $620 million. T.W.A. has agreed to buy 20 of the A330 aircraft and has an option to buy 20 more, making it the largest
Rolls-Royce P.L.C. announced that Trans World Airlines Inc. had chosen its most powerful long-haul engine to power recently ordered Airbus A330 airliners in a deal worth more than $620 million. T.W.A. has agreed to buy 20 of the A330 aircraft and has an option to buy 20 more, making it the largest A330 order to date, worth up to $4 billion.
T.W.A. is scheduled to take delivery of the planes in late 1994. The contract between T.W.A. and Airbus Industrie, the European consortium, was signed today. The aircraft-engine combination is likely to be used on longer A330 flights over the Atlantic, Rolls-Royce said.
Falstaff From United States, joined Jun 2006, 3279 posts, RR: 20 Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 13175 times:
TWA paint on a A330. That would be cool. I think that is a cool looking plane and I thought the last TWA scheme was the best. Too bad things never worked out.
On another TWA never was note. In one of the scenes in Burt Lancaster's office in "Airport" there is model of a TWA SST. That would be a cool model to have.
AndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 12826 times:
I should show you my early 90's books on aviation fleets, that is a sight to behold. It show EK with 12 airplanes only, the NW WB orders, Cargolux with only 8 747s, etc.
PHX Flyer From United States, joined Apr 2001, 288 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (2 years 5 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 12658 times:
I have great photorealistic renderings of both the TWA A330 and the DC-10. Obviously, both are in the old color scheme, because the new one would not be introduced until 1996, whereas the Airbus order dates back to 1989, and the marketing of the DC-10 to the seventies. Some day, when I have more time on my hands (and a decent scanner), I'll put them online.
The A330 pic was issued by Rolls Royce, the DC-10 pic by McDonnell Douglas. Back in the seventies, when TWA was in the market for a mid-sized widebody, MDD created the pic as part of of a marketing effort, to pitch the DC-10 against the L-1011 - to no avail, as we all know. Nonetheless, the pic looks great.
Btw, the TWA SST exists as a model - in the twin globe c/s.
Longhornmaniac From Argentina, joined Jun 2005, 1868 posts, RR: 39 Reply 11, posted (2 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 12538 times:
Quoting Jeremy (Reply 6): I have that one also, along with a Continental A-340.
Hey, me 2, I've got both of them as well! And when I visited the AA Flight Academy, I was in Chief Pilot Cecil Ewell's office, and he had a model of an A340 in AA colors! I was like, whoa! This was about 10 years ago.
WA707atMSP From United States, joined Oct 2006, 963 posts, RR: 6 Reply 13, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 11961 times:
R. E. G. Davies' book about TWA, TWA - an Airline and its Aircraft, has great illustrations by Mike Machat of the Concorde and Boeing SST in the "double globe" scheme, and a Caravelle in the 707 delivery scheme, with the red arrow cheat line, but with plain TWA (no globe) on the rudder.
UK_Dispatcher From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2001, 2174 posts, RR: 28 Reply 16, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 10497 times:
I remember when I was a kid seeing a news clip in the UK about TWA having ordered A330s. I was only about 9 or 10 but I've always remembered it - especially as I never heard any other reference to it since, until this post.
ZschocheImages From United States, joined Sep 2006, 121 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 8004 times:
Quoting Flynavy (Thread starter): Some model companies (Schabak in particular) actually produced models, I've got one, a -300 version.
Schabak tends to make many models right after an order is placed rather than waiting until delivery. I have an NWA 330 from the first order back in the 90's. There are quite a few others that I have seen that never came to be
Texan From United States, joined Dec 2003, 3282 posts, RR: 34 Reply 18, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 7458 times:
One of my former professors was also TWA's Chief Pilot for the 767. When the A330 deal was announced, he was the first TW pilot to be sent to France to receive training. He was checked out in it and rearing to go when Icahn pulled the plug on the deal. Oh what could have been...
Cba From United States, joined Jul 2000, 4443 posts, RR: 4 Reply 19, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6781 times:
Quoting Jeremy (Reply 6): I have that one also, along with a Continental A-340.
Continental did have solid orders for the A340, however when Gordon Bethune (former Boeing man) took over the company, he nixed those and opted to wait for the triple 7.
AirbusA6 From United Kingdom (England), joined Apr 2005, 1000 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4907 times:
At the time the A330 was by no means a runaway success, and RR were desperate for customers to stay in the big fan business! I bet TWA got a good price from both
it's the bus to stansted (now renamed national express a4 to ruin my username)
Jetjack74 From United States, joined Jul 2003, 6544 posts, RR: 55 Reply 23, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4723 times:
TWA still had 20 A330's on order, along with 50 A318's according to Airliners Magazine in the Sept/Oct 1999 issue. It states a delivery date on May of 2003 for the first of the A330's. Obviously, AA cancelled orders for both aircraft as well as the remaining 717's..
"Shut your pie hole and listen to me when I say that I am finished with the checking of the bags conversation."
1stfl94 From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 777 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4652 times:
Quoting SparkingWave (Reply 21): Wow. That would have been great - a TWA A330. I wonder if TWA had actually acquired them, then would it still be around today?
I think that the A330 would have caused more problems for TWA. Those early A330s don't exactly have the best range, Aer Lingus can get theirs from Dublin to Chicago but thats about the furthest. Considering that in 1989 TWA had a much larger transatlantic network too with many cities probably just out of A330 range (Athens, Tel Aviv).
Personally I would have thought the 767-300 would have made more sense for TWA (actually didn't they end up getting some in the nineties) since they already had 767-200s
I didn't even know the A330 was ready for orders that long ago. Airlines still make a big deal when they put one in service today (NW & BR come to mind).
26 JumboBumbo: Looks like one of their L-1011's sans number 2 engine, plus winglets.
27 CirrusDriver: I seem to remember that TWA was pretty serious about an A320 order as well.....Anyone else?
28 AirEMS: You have to love the classic colors of a great airline! I however would have loved to have seen a TWA or a PanAM 772 or 773 or even a 787 that would
29 SFOtraveler: I thought they had converted the A330 order that had been deferred indefinitely to A318s at some point.
30 WesternA318: The A330 order was changed to the 50 confirmed A318 and 100 A320 family options order when Compton came on as CEO. TWA and Frontier were to be the lau
31 DETA737: TWA kept on deferring the orders due to its bankruptcies. By 1988 they had overtaken Pan Am across the Atlantic as the largest carrier and were lookin
32 AirEMS: I wonder if Juan Trippe rolled over in his grave when that happened? I'm also guessing that Howard Hughes got out of his grave and took a wizz on Jua
33 MP: TWA A330-200 in the company colours from 2001.
34 AA717driver: The sole reason for the 330 order was to show that Icahn was indeed serious about running an airline. It was all for show. We knew at the time that th
35 ClassicLover: Aer Lingus fly them non-stop from DUB-LAX and return. I've been on board, and it's a daily service, so I don't know what you're on about...
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