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PilotRecruit From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 93 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5700 times:

A very first hello to my Airliner.net friends out there! I too have taken the leap from arm chair Quarterback to the big show Smile

My question is regarding BA's roll-out of their new Club World. Since they now have at least one A/C with the new set-up, as per Fbgdavidsons report ( BA Next Generation Club World: LHR-IAD (w/pics) (by Fbgdavidson Jan 3 2007 in Trip Reports) ), what is their roll-out schedule? I see on their website that they plan to have the entire fleet equipped by 2008, what would that equate to for number of aircraft per month? Are they going to equipe one type first (e.g. all 747) or just as their maintenance schedule comes around?

I'm booked to fly in Club World this friday out of YYC and I'm curious what the chance would be that the 777 sched is New Club World equipped?

Thanks!

PilotRecruit

"Whether you think you can or you can't, either way you're right." Henry Ford

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AirlineFanatic From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5697 times:

I'm on the 1901 departure JFK-LHR on a 744 this Friday any chance of New Club World? Is WT+ upgraded on the New Club aircraft?

SapphireLHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 103 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5589 times:

The New Club World Embodiment is:

Hi J 747 Ist Aircraft (GB-NLN) November 2006. Main Embodiment begins January 2007 to be completed by April 2008

Mid J 747 Begins Embodiment Feb 2007 to be completed by April 2008

LHR 777 Begins Embodiment May 2007 to be completed by April 2008

LGW 777 Begins Embodiment Jan 2008 to be completed by April 2008

Trekster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5587 times:

Quoting AirlineFanatic (Reply 1):

WT+ is the same as on current aircraft

PilotRecruit From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5516 times:

Thanks SapphireLHR.

It makes sense that they would have their 744's done first for the obvious reasons.

How many A/C have been converted thus far?

"Whether you think you can or you can't, either way you're right." Henry Ford

SapphireLHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 103 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5420 times:

No problem, PilotRecruit.

Only NLN is in operation at the moment. This initial aircraft has to be in operational service for approx six weeks before getting type approved, once approved the rest of the fleet will begin embodiment. I beleive that there is a least one other being fitted while waiting for approval before entering service.

Sketty222 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 1772 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 5329 times:

Does anyone know which aircraft are to be embodied first? ie registrations

Lee

There's flying and then there's flying

TLVFred From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5209 times:

Did I not read somewhere that BA were guaranteeing NCW on all LHR-JFK routes from April 07. They would need around 10 to do that.

Given NLN is being sent all over the place at the moment, that may not be the case.

PilotRecruit From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 5040 times:

Quoting TLVFred (Reply 7):
Given NLN is being sent all over the place at the moment, that may not be the case.

Hopefully there still might be enough time before April to have 10 744's equipped and i think they might just be sending NLN all over the place to get a thorough review from all of the Club World passengers.

Where have they sent it thus far? Which Club World passengers do you think they would be trying to target as their review concensus?

"Whether you think you can or you can't, either way you're right." Henry Ford

Speedbird2155 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 847 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 5032 times:

Quoting PilotRecruit (Reply 8):
Where have they sent it thus far? Which Club World passengers do you think they would be trying to target as their review concensus?

Initially it did mainly LAX, HKG, JNB. But recently it has being doing trips trips to IAD and GRU also.

Shamrock_747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4928 times:

Quoting Sketty222 (Reply 6):
Does anyone know which aircraft are to be embodied first? ie registrations

The 747-436 to be embodied this month are CIVS, BNLK and CIVX.

VV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 6613 posts, RR: 17
Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4912 times:

Quoting TLVFred (Reply 7):
Did I not read somewhere that BA were guaranteeing NCW on all LHR-JFK routes from April 07.

Probably not. Two flights a day are 772s (BA113 and BA173) and conversion of the 772 fleet does not start until May.

VV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 6613 posts, RR: 17
Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4906 times:

Quoting Shamrock_747 (Reply 10):
he 747-436 to be embodied this month are CIVS, BNLK and CIVX.

Thanks for the above.

BA787 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4891 times:

So basically the whole fleet will be with new Club World by April 2008, which will be excellent for the airline. Makes me wonder hopw soon the fleet will be replaced, considering all except the 767 series will be fitted, although Im sure I tyhought the 767s were being fitted, can anyone clarify?

PilotRecruit From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4888 times:

Quoting Shamrock_747 (Reply 10):
The 747-436 to be embodied this month are CIVS, BNLK and CIVX

Do you think we can expect approx. 3 A/C per month to be embodied?

"Whether you think you can or you can't, either way you're right." Henry Ford

Shamrock_747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4871 times:

Quoting PilotRecruit (Reply 14):
Do you think we can expect approx. 3 A/C per month to be embodied?

I think that's a realistic expectation, considering there are 57 747-436 in the fleet and embodiment is due for completion in Spring 2008.

VV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 6613 posts, RR: 17
Reply 16, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4824 times:

Quoting Shamrock_747 (Reply 10):
The 747-436 to be embodied this month are CIVS, BNLK and CIVX.

BNLK arrived at LHR from HKG as BA026 early in the morning of 16 December. Around lunchtime that same day it was ferried LHR-CWL (BA9183E). Since then it does not appear to have returned to LHR or, indeed to service. (Both CIVS and 'VX have been in more or less constant service between 16 December and 6 January.)

BNLN was ferried to CWL on 10 October for its refit and returned to LHR on 9 November. This suggests that BNLK will ferry back to LHR in the next 7 to 14 days (allowing for the Xmas and New Year holidays). But if all the 55 unconverted 744s are to be converted by Spring 2008 it looks as if BA will have to refit two aircraft at a time - hence CIVS and 'VX could replace BNLK at BA Engineering later this month when the latter returns to service.

PilotRecruit From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4629 times:

Quoting TLVFred (Reply 7):
Did I not read somewhere that BA were guaranteeing NCW on all LHR-JFK routes from April 07.

Expanding on the above question, as the new aircraft roll-out will they continue to send these A/C all over the place or would they centralize these aircraft on high profiles routes such as LHR - JFK?

"Whether you think you can or you can't, either way you're right." Henry Ford

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