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Oslo Second Largest In Scandinavia 2006  
User currently offlineHeisan67 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3683 times:

Passenger numbers 2006:

CPH - Kastrup:
20.877.496 pax +4,5%
Increase in pax numbers compared with 2005 = 895.624 pax.


OSL - Gardermoen:
17.672.179 pax +11,2%
Increase in pax numbers compared with 2005 = 1.776.031 pax.


ARN - Arlanda:
17.537.922 pax +2,6%
Increase in pax numbers compared with 2005 = 436.444 pax.

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User currently offlineEBGflyer From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 999 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3402 times:

Well done OSL.

Like ARN a great deal of this traffic is from domestic flights.

In 2006, CPH had more than 19+ mio international passengers, ARN 11+ mio and OSL only 9+ mio.



Future flights: CPH-BRU-CPHx2; CPH-BKK-MNL; MNL-GUM-HNL-LAX
User currently offlineKevin777 From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 1165 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3340 times:

Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 1):
Well done OSL.

Yep, well done - but....

Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 1):
Like ARN a great deal of this traffic is from domestic flights.

In 2006, CPH had more than 19+ mio international passengers, ARN 11+ mio and OSL only 9+ mio.

CPH is still king, and no one close...!!  Smile

Kevin777



"I was waiting for you at DFW, but you must have been in LUV" CPH-HAM-CPH CR9
User currently offlineHeisan67 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3132 times:

OSL had the largest increase by the CPH/ARN/OSL in pasenger numbers, both international (14%) and in total (11,2%).

Not surpringsly do Danes seem to think that international passengers are more "important" than domestic.
Flying in Norway you may fly nonstop for 2 hours without leaving the country. Doing so from Copenhagen will get you to eg Milan in Italy.


User currently offlineScooter01 From Norway, joined Nov 2006, 1199 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3105 times:
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Quoting Heisan67 (Reply 3):

Flying in Norway you may fly nonstop for 2 hours without leaving the country. Doing so from Copenhagen will get you to eg Milan in Italy.

Or maybe to the Faeroes, and quite a bit longer to some destinations on Greenland.  duck 

Scooter



"We all have a girl and her name is nostalgia" - Hemingway
User currently offlineRobbie86 From Sweden, joined May 2006, 531 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3096 times:

Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 1):
CPH is still king, and no one close...!!

Oh knock if off!



Next flights: ARN-LHR-IAD on BA 319/VS343 EWR-LHR-ARN on VS346/BA319
User currently offlineLongHaul67 From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 248 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3073 times:

LHR has almost 70 million passengers per year with 2 runways. OSL has 19 million passengers and now wants to build a third runway. Go figure!

User currently offlineAsturias From Spain, joined Apr 2006, 2144 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3069 times:

Quoting LongHaul67 (Reply 6):
LHR has almost 70 million passengers per year with 2 runways. OSL has 19 million passengers and now wants to build a third runway. Go figure!

Yeah it's a bit much, but the traffic at LHR is non-stop. It is pretty amazing to see at night. Rows of planes in landing patterns.

cheers

Asturias



Tonight we fly
User currently offlineAndaman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3045 times:

Quoting LongHaul67 (Reply 6):
LHR has almost 70 million passengers per year with 2 runways. OSL has 19 million passengers and now wants to build a third runway. Go figure!

Last year HEL had 12 milj passengers, with three runways. Not sure if three runways are needed for the lot busier intercontinental traffic than OSL for an example, for enviromental (noise) reasons or just for the future needs.
HEL will expand quite a bit in 2009.


User currently offlineKevin777 From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 1165 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2956 times:

Quoting Heisan67 (Reply 3):
Not surpringsly do Danes seem to think that international passengers are more "important" than domestic.

Not surprisingly! But I reckon I'm not the only a.netter who thinks that the more international the more exotic  Wink

Quoting Heisan67 (Reply 3):
Flying in Norway you may fly nonstop for 2 hours without leaving the country. Doing so from Copenhagen will get you to eg Milan in Italy.

Great, isn't it!

Quoting Heisan67 (Reply 3):
OSL had the largest increase by the CPH/ARN/OSL in pasenger numbers, both international (14%) and in total (11,2%).

...and you very well know that this is largely due to a one-time event, namely, the splitting up of SK and the following de-hubbing of operations.. But still, good growth for OSL.

Quoting Robbie86 (Reply 5):
Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 1):
CPH is still king, and no one close...!!

Oh knock if off!

Sorry, couldn't help myself!  Smile

Kevin777



"I was waiting for you at DFW, but you must have been in LUV" CPH-HAM-CPH CR9
User currently onlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12219 posts, RR: 35
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2875 times:
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Yet SK would rather add a second CPH-US flight than giving OSL a shot on intl traffic. Oh well, good thing we have CO  Smile


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User currently offlinePavlovsDog From Norway, joined Sep 2005, 657 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2830 times:

Quoting Kevin777 (Reply 9):
..and you very well know that this is largely due to a one-time event, namely, the splitting up of SK and the following de-hubbing of operations.. But still, good growth for OSL.

I think you're underestimating the growth of Norwegian. They too expanded international operations significantly in 2006.


User currently offlineOkAY From Finland, joined Dec 2006, 652 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2821 times:

Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 1):
Like ARN a great deal of this traffic is from domestic flights.

Yes of course. It just shows how important domestic air travel is in Norway and Sweden. Denmark is so small geographically, that wide domestic operations is just not needed.


User currently offlineVadheim From Norway, joined Jul 2000, 623 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2772 times:

For those of you who are interested in airport passenger figures, here is a list of the largest Scandinavian airports with more than 1 million passengers in 2006.

1. Copenhagen (CPH) - Denmark 20.9 million +4.9%

2. Oslo (OSL) - Norway 17.7 million +11.2%
3. Stockholm (ARN) - Sweden 17.5 million +2.3%

4. Bergen (BGO) - Norway 4.6 million +12.7%
5. Gothenburg (GOT) - Sweden 4.3 million +5.0%

6. Stavanger (SVG) - Norway 3.3 million +11.4%
7. Trondheim (TRD) - Norway 3.2 million +7.9%

8. Malmoe (MMX) - Sweden 1.9 million +3.6%
9. Billund (BLL) - Denmark 1.9 million -5.0%
10. Stockholm (NYO) - Sweden 1.8 million +1.8%
11. Stockholm (BMM) - Sweden 1.6 million +21.5%
12. Tromsoe (TOS) - Norway 1.6 million +6.7%
13. Bodoe (BOO) - Norway 1.4 million +5.7%
14. Oslo (TRF) - Norway 1.3 million +7.0%

Runners up:
1. Luleae (LLA) - Sweden 0.9 million +1.2%
2. Kristiansand (KRS) - Norway 0.8 million +7.6%
3. Umeae (UME) - Sweden 0.8 million -1.1%


User currently offlinePavlovsDog From Norway, joined Sep 2005, 657 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2681 times:

Quoting Vadheim (Reply 13):
10. Stockholm (NYO) - Sweden 1.8 million +1.8%

14. Oslo (TRF) - Norway 1.3 million +7.0%

Do you work for Ryan Air or something LOL? You'd might as well call Malmø as being Copenhagen. It's certainly closer to the city center than either NYO or TRF.


User currently onlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12219 posts, RR: 35
Reply 15, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2557 times:
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Quoting PavlovsDog (Reply 14):
Do you work for Ryan Air or something LOL? You'd might as well call Malmø as being Copenhagen. It's certainly closer to the city center than either NYO or TRF.

Yeah, give my hometown the credit it deserves  Smile TRF is Sandefjord  Smile



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User currently offlineHimmelstormer From Denmark, joined Mar 2005, 143 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2520 times:

Quoting Heisan67 (Reply 3):

According to CPH's own website the airport's catchment area is 5,5 million people which is more than the entire population of Norway. That is why CPH is - and will continue to be - king of Scandinavia. Furthermore, add the fact that business activity in Øresundsregionen(Copenhagen - East Denmark/Malmø - Southern Sweden) is growing at a high rate. A lot of Multinationals are setting up shop here. I also remember reading that every third passenger that begins their journey in CPH is Swedish.
However, it has to be said that CPH are losing more transit passengers each year which of course is not so good. That is countered by new routes and increase in passengers starting their journey here.

It also has to be said that an 11,2% increase is very good so OSL has done very well this year, and hopefully they will continue to grow, but leave the wide body activity to CPH  biggrin 


User currently offlineVadheim From Norway, joined Jul 2000, 623 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2485 times:

Quoting Himmelstormer (Reply 16):
According to CPH's own website the airport's catchment area is 5,5 million people which is more than the entire population of Norway.

..... and more than the total population of Denmark!!!!!


User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 851 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2480 times:

Whatever happend to Kallax Airport and the freighters? AFAIK Kallax is a fuelstop-over airport for freighters route America-Asia n back...

http://www.kallaxcargo.com/

Micke//  

[Edited 2007-01-22 10:03:32]


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User currently offlineFlyingfool From Netherlands, joined May 2005, 433 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2434 times:

Quoting Kevin777,reply=2, 9][/quote]
.
[quote=Himmelstormer
(Reply 16):

Regarding the manner on replies you both give, we may conclude that you Danish are a bit jealous?


Regards, Flyingfool

[Edited 2007-01-22 11:05:15]

User currently offlineKevin777 From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 1165 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2411 times:

Quoting Himmelstormer (Reply 16):
According to CPH's own website the airport's catchment area is 5,5 million people which is more than the entire population of Norway. That is why CPH is - and will continue to be - king of Scandinavia



Quoting Kevin777 (Reply 2):
CPH is still king, and no one close...!!

Thanks for the support!  Smile

Quoting Himmelstormer (Reply 16):
However, it has to be said that CPH are losing more transit passengers each year which of course is not so good.

They are loosing transfer pax, yes, it's down from almost 50 % of pax five years ago to 1/3 today - however, this has largely been due to the split-up of SK, so I doubt that the trend will continue. There are still many routes to/from Scandinavia that are too thin to be operated nonstop from, say, ARN or OSL, and CPH is still a significant hub for this - and will continue to be, also.

Quoting Flyingfool (Reply 19):
Regarding the manner on replies you both give, we may conclude that you Danish are a bit jealous?

?????? WE are not jealous! We have the biggest airport, the most extensive route map and most importantly all the big birds!!! Nothing to be jealous of!!!  Smile

Kevin777



"I was waiting for you at DFW, but you must have been in LUV" CPH-HAM-CPH CR9
User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 851 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2398 times:

@ Kevin777

CPH have been the largest hub for SK and the routes all over the world, it´s gonna stay that way for a long time. A great airport iyam..

Till lykke

Micke//  wave 



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User currently offlineKevin777 From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 1165 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2387 times:

Quoting Solnabo (Reply 21):
@ Kevin777

CPH have been the largest hub for SK and the routes all over the world, it´s gonna stay that way for a long time. A great airport iyam..

Till lykke

Takk so mycka!

Kevin777



"I was waiting for you at DFW, but you must have been in LUV" CPH-HAM-CPH CR9
User currently offlineEBGflyer From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 999 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 2313 times:

Quoting Heisan67 (Reply 3):
Not surpringsly do Danes seem to think that international passengers are more "important" than domestic.

Let me just add that I see nothing less important with domestic traffic although there are limitations on how much one can expect this traffic to increase simply due to size of the population in Norway.

In the long run, potential increase in overall traffic must come from an increase in international traffic. Even though the market indeed has been growing, I doubt whether it's enough to attract airlines to OSL on a larger scale thus limiting the sustainability for further growth. Catchment area-wise OSL simply has a disadvantage compared to CPH and ARN.



Future flights: CPH-BRU-CPHx2; CPH-BKK-MNL; MNL-GUM-HNL-LAX
User currently offlineHimmelstormer From Denmark, joined Mar 2005, 143 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2228 times:

Quoting Vadheim (Reply 17):

I think you took my post way too seriously - relax! Besides the population of Denmark is around 5,6 million.

Regarding CPH and Øresundsregioen. It is unquestionable that it will continue to grow and therefore attract more airlines and new routes, including more widebodies which is what we all want  Cool


25 Post contains images Vadheim : .... or 5.444.203 to be exact Just base my answers on facts rather than assumptions
26 Post contains images Himmelstormer : Vadheim, you're really a piece of work. What is this anyway? Norwegian inferiority complex? Get over it. The number you quoted is still pretty close
27 Someone83 : Although I agree with you. IATA don't and has classified TRF as Oslo, which always annoys me because when I search for OSL flights alot of alternativ
28 Post contains images Doona : What the hell? Cheers Mats
29 Vadheim : I have.... remember I made the list!!!!![Edited 2007-01-23 00:48:53]
30 Post contains images Himmelstormer : Good Anyway, that's it from me, have a nice day.
31 Post contains images Kevin777 : Exactly, that is all we want! Next up: Stealing US and MH from ARN... Kevin777
32 Post contains images UpperDeck79 : Or maybe HEL should get MH now that AY cancelled KUL before even starting it...
33 Post contains images Kevin777 : Kevin777
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