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LCF (Dreamlifter) Leaving For Centrair Nagoya  
User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5763 posts, RR: 47
Posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6415 times:

According to FlightAware, BOE 876 (Dreamlifer, LCF, BUFF, whatever) will be leaving Boeing Field at 21:42 GMT (1:42 PM local) today January 9th going to Centrair and arriving at 08:30 GMT on January 10th.

This is to pick up parts for the first 787 and transport them to Charleston, SC for integration with Italian and US built fuselage sections.

Does anyone know what parts they are transporting (central wing box, mid-fuselage, etc.)?

You spotters in Nagoya look out tomorrow afteroon!

[Edited 2007-01-09 17:25:48]


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User currently offlineDanny From Poland, joined Apr 2002, 3509 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6381 times:

Let's hope it wont drop the parts on its way again  Wink

User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5763 posts, RR: 47
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6353 times:

Quoting Danny (Reply 1):
Let's hope it wont drop the parts on its way again

Just as longas it's nothing vital, like the 787 parts. Congrats to Boeing. They've kept pretty close to schedule and now starting to hit it production marks. They've done quite well for a very risky program and kudos should go out to the Boeig engineers and technicians as well as the 787 program management. They've done quite well.



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User currently offlineBlatantEcho From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1913 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6309 times:

Pics or it didn't happen!


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User currently offlineBeech19 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 936 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6226 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Thread starter):
Does anyone know what parts they are transporting (central wing box, mid-fuselage, etc.)?

This should be the wing box and mid-fuse from Fuji and Kawasaki from what i've heard. Both of those peices will go to Charleston and joined with peices from Alenia (Italy) and peices they built.

Eventually they will all make its way back to Everett as one HUMONGOUS peice for frame#1  Smile



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User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6207 times:

When's the first plane due to unveiled is it April?

User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5763 posts, RR: 47
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6140 times:

The first one shouldbe unveiled around June or July. It supposed to be painted in June.
now that 787 parts are being built and are traveling., I thought it apropo to link to an article written by Dominic Gates in 2005:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...ology/2002486348_787global11.html>

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User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8153 posts, RR: 26
Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6068 times:

I'll be out there tomorrow around 1500 local in case they're early.

Caught the loading equipment in ready position at spot 404 today:

http://www.pbase.com/cityflyer/image/72852061/original.jpg



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User currently offlineBeech19 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 936 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6002 times:

Thanks for that recap NYC777.

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 7):
I'll be out there tomorrow around 1500 local in case they're early.

Caught the loading equipment in ready position at spot 404 today:

As "plain" as that pic is... it might be one of my favorites. Knowing the potential that will be loaded at that location. That is a very important peice of equipment and tarmac.  Smile



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5763 posts, RR: 47
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 5942 times:

No problem Beech! Yeah it looks as if they're ready out there in Japan. Tehy even have the tractor out there to swing and suppoirt the tail for loading ops. How long will the Dreamlifter be out there in Japan? I would thik less than 24 hours.


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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21532 posts, RR: 59
Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 5908 times:

Quoting Beech19 (Reply 8):
As "plain" as that pic is... it might be one of my favorites. Knowing the potential that will be loaded at that location.

It's like the opening scene in starwars where all the soldiers are waiting for darth vader to blast through the door. waiting, waiting...



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User currently offlineBeech19 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 936 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5758 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 9):
How long will the Dreamlifter be out there in Japan? I would thik less than 24 hours.

Yes... the parts are too be delivered to Vought in Charleston, SC on the 12th. So they will be there a day or so.

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 10):
It's like the opening scene in starwars where all the soldiers are waiting for darth vader to blast through the door. waiting, waiting...

Good visual...  Smile This is all very exciting...



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5763 posts, RR: 47
Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 5679 times:

And she's away. The Dreamlifter is on it's way to Nagoya and should be there in about 11 hours.


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User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3303 posts, RR: 30
Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5566 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 12):
And she's away. The Dreamlifter is on it's way to Nagoya and should be there in about 11 hours.

So does that mean she's received FAA certification?



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User currently offlineDCrawley From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 371 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5489 times:

While looking through the Boeing website for a press release about the certification, I stumbled upon the November 2006 BOEING FRONTIERS: Main Story.. an informative .PDF on the LCF:

http://www.boeing.com/news/frontiers...hive/2006/november/mainfeature.pdf

Only article I found pertaining to certification:

http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?C...d20e83-ba15-4051-a98f-c5fdab510fa2

I wonder if it will be using the call sign "Boeing 876" instead of "Experimental".. Safe flying!



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User currently offlineER757 From Cayman Islands, joined May 2005, 2529 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5422 times:

Anyone know when the 2nd LCF will be flying? I'd think it would have to be fairly soon if they want to stay on schedule.

User currently offlineDAYflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5362 times:

Fantastic! Can't wait to see them mate the first sections together! Awesome progress on the most advanced airliner ever developed.


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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5763 posts, RR: 47
Reply 17, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5240 times:

Quoting ER757 (Reply 15):
Anyone know when the 2nd LCF will be flying? I'd think it would have to be fairly soon if they want to stay on schedule.

It shouild arrive in Seattle within the next couple of weeks I think. Tey're saying very very shortly. I think it'll be pressed into service by early February.



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User currently offlineNWAatNGO From Japan, joined May 2004, 48 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5110 times:

Aaron747,

Thanks for the shot of the loader. I was at NGO today about noon, four hours too early for the LCF. I wanted to snap a few pics of loader and tractor, but couldn't get anything worthwhile on my little camera. I am really looking forward to seeing the old girl at NGO and thanks for all the trips out to NGO.

Looking forward to your posting the pictures.

NWAatNGO


User currently offlineZeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 9109 posts, RR: 75
Reply 19, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5086 times:

Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 13):
So does that mean she's received FAA certification?

No change to the TCDS or an STC that I could see on the FAA website.



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User currently offlineF22KA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4417 times:

It must be depressing for some folks out there. "What?! Are they serious about this plastic plane? We thought the Americans were just bluffing... just like with Enron"

User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8153 posts, RR: 26
Reply 21, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4225 times:

When they called Centrair tower for approach clearance tonight they identified themselves as Experimental following the Boeing callsign. That would seem to suggest they've yet to be certified.


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User currently offlineBeech19 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 936 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3545 times:

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 21):
When they called Centrair tower for approach clearance tonight they identified themselves as Experimental following the Boeing callsign. That would seem to suggest they've yet to be certified.

It has not been certified yet. Untill that point LCF#1 will be "Experimental Boeing 876 Heavy."

An interesing tidbit... though the actual operation of the LCF's have been outsourced to Evergreen, a source close to the operation (my neighbor) has advised me that Boeing pilots will be being "outsourced to" by Evergreen to fly them. LOL
Also some may not know... Evergreen outsourced to Cargolux to operate the Atlantic route from Italy to Charleston/Everett. I would assume again by Boeing pilots...



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5763 posts, RR: 47
Reply 23, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3512 times:

So it comes down to that Boeig pilots are flying Boeing planes. Why do all that? Jsut have Boeing run the ops using their pilots? I don't know if that saves money or not though.

I hope to see pics of the full production barrels soon. Don't suppose anyone out there has taken any?



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User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3505 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 23):
So it comes down to that Boeig pilots are flying Boeing planes. Why do all that? Jsut have Boeing run the ops using their pilots? I don't know if that saves money or not though.

It depends on who has the most efficient (cost wise) setup to maintain the aircraft, fuel the aircraft and deal with flight employee payroll et al.

Surprisingly, the answer may not be Boeing because they may not have a support structure built to handle the kind of operations the LCF will be undertaking, so they would be better off having the aircraft operated by a dedicated cargo operator.

Its all for cost reasons.


25 Post contains images Andhen : It will be very exiting to see how the LCF is loaded, and how the parts look like. Keep the pictures coming.. Andhen
26 Ikramerica : Will this plane be maintained like a military jet, more downtown than uptime and lots of continuous maintenance to make sure it's always performing 10
27 Post contains images Beech19 : Ding ding ding! We have a winner Johnny! That is the assumption... Boeing is not in the place to have to maintain a fleet of Uber-freighters and buil
28 Post contains links Beech19 : For you and any others who may have missed the LCF Loader shots... here is a link to some. http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2006/q2/060612d_pr.htm
29 Andhen : Wow that was a massive loader, wonder how much weight it can carry.. By the way, what is the heaviest part of the dreamliner, I guess it is the center
30 NYC777 : It can carry up to 68 (Imperial) tons.
31 Post contains images Beech19 : Yeah she is a beast... The heaviest part it will have to carry is the one in the CGI image. The forward fues/center fues/wingbox/aft fues section onc
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