LAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5085 posts, RR: 48 Posted (6 years 11 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 7962 times:
Jet Airways Ltd., India's biggest domestic airline, said it will expand its international operations with new flights to Bangkok in late January and flights to the United States late this year.
Jet Airways said on Tuesday it plans to launch a regular U.S. service in August, flying to Newark, New Jersey, and to San Francisco via Shanghai in October, executives said.
The airline will use eight new Boeing 777s and five Airbus 330s, already ordered, on its international routes this year on top of six Boeing 737s for its Indian domestic service, chairman Naresh Goyal told reporters.
"Our international operations will grow to account for about 50 percent of our total revenues in a few years," Goyal said, announcing Jet Airways' 14 weekly flights between Bangkok, Delhi and Kolkata.
Manny From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 449 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 7938 times:
Quoting LAXDESI (Thread starter): Jet Airways said on Tuesday it plans to launch a regular U.S. service in August, flying to Newark, New Jersey, and to San Francisco via Shanghai in October, executives said.
Me thinks they will make a killing. The India-PVG-SFO route will make them a lot of dough.
As much as I may get blasted for this, the world does not revolve around LAX and JFK and there are other potential markets outside LAX and JFK. SFO has no Indian carriers and there is a market to be tapped. There could be a possibility that in two years there will be three Indian carriers serving SFO ie: Air India, Kingfisher and Jet Airways.
Jlk From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 184 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 7794 times:
That is fantastic news. I hope 9W provides connections to south indian cities from the Mumbai international terminal without having to go thru customs and immigration in BOM. I guess this would be the fastest route to BOM from the west-coast barring EVA's SFO-TPE-BOM (maybe)
Mandargb From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 195 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 7577 times:
Last month's (December, 2006) (I don't remember which week though) issue of Aviation Week has a bit of news on this matter.
1] US DOT has cleared 9W to start flights to US. And they plan to start New York (I dont remember JFK or EWR) and SFO flight later in 2007.
2] AI to join star (as 21st member) after their merger with Indian in April.
Now Jet and AI have both made into news for years (AI for a decade now) that they are starting service to SFO.
Lets wait and watch if they really do. Or it gets slippery in the red tape in either country or even within the airlines themselves.
By the way how far behind is KingFisher in this race? anybody knows ?
LAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5085 posts, RR: 48 Reply 9, posted (6 years 11 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 7557 times:
Quoting Mandargb (Reply 8): By the way how far behind is KingFisher in this race? anybody knows ?
Kingfisher needs to complete five years of domestic flying before they can fly international. However, it is expected that this rule may be relaxed to three years, which will make Kingfisher eligible to fly international in 2008.
Nimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3140 posts, RR: 9 Reply 10, posted (6 years 11 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 7537 times:
Quoting LHRBFSTrident (Reply 7): Don't they have operational support from LH? Conjecture that Star might be the natural way for them to go...
While that would be logical for both *A and 9W, unfortunately *A has been wooing AI/IC for the past few years, and now they seem to be close to formally joining *A. Which then means it's close to impossible to get 9W in as well.
Jet Airways, India's largest private airline, has formed a commercial partnership with Thai Airways International as part of its strategy to expand its operations with international carriers on a bilateral basis. The Mumbai-based carrier has opted for bilateral arrangements rather than joining global airline alliances such as Star Alliance, Oneworld or Skyteam, which entail complications such as adopting common operation systems.
In addition to THAI, Jet has struck earlier deals with Lufthansa and British Airways.
''We are not joining any alliance at this time because we are new. We will have bilateral relationships with different countries,'' Jet chairman Naresh Goyal said in an interview in Bangkok yesterday.
in reality I expect that they are talking to everyone and waiting to see who offers the most favourable terms
Moderation in all things ... including moderation ;-)
The civil aviation agreement seeks to increase the flight frequencies of designated airlines of each side to 14 per week on the IATA summer season of 2005, that would go up to 28 flights during the winter season and to 42 flights during the summer season of 2006. At present, each side operates seven flights a week.
The two sides would also adopt 'open skies' policy for cargo with unlimited capacity entitlement for dedicated cargo services.
Agreement has also been reached to simplify visa procedures for operating and cabin crew and employment of foreign pilots by the designated airlines of either side. The airlines would also be allowed to dry lease aircraft for both combination services and cargo sharing services.
Under the MoU, designated airlines of both parties are entitled to have unlimited third, fourth and fifth freedom traffic rights while they can co-terminalise any two points in its own territory and/or any two points in the territory of the other party without a cabotage rights with the exception for airlines designated by India to combine Beijing and Shanghai, Beijing and Guangzhou, Shanghai and Guangzhaou.
Kiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8442 posts, RR: 14 Reply 15, posted (6 years 11 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 6995 times:
Quoting Concorde001 (Reply 13): With the newly merged AI and IC set to join Star Alliance, would it be reasonable to assume that Jet will therefore either joing Skyteam or oneworld?
from all the reports I have read "unnamed sources" at AI said that they would be announcing last month that AI would join Star - if it was announced I missed it - certainly Star haven't said anything ...... yet
Moderation in all things ... including moderation ;-)
Jlk From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 184 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (6 years 11 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 6923 times:
Quoting Manny (Reply 12): Under the MoU, designated airlines of both parties are entitled to have unlimited third, fourth and fifth freedom traffic rights while they can co-terminalise any two points in its own territory and/or any two points in the territory of the other party without a cabotage rights with the exception for airlines designated by India to combine Beijing and Shanghai, Beijing and Guangzhou, Shanghai and Guangzhaou.
With United winning the dogfight for the PEK-US market, I wonder whether 9W or AI would try to exploit their fifth freedom rights from PEK to the US like a DEL-PEK-LAX route given that 9W would start BOM-PVG-SFO.
Quoting Abrelosojos (Reply 16): As I think of it more, can I just say that BOM-PVG-SFO has to be one of the more brilliant routings announced of late? I mean, it just smells Rupees!
I also wonder why the Chinese carriers haven't jumped on this China-India route with connections to the US? A BLR-PVG-SFO route would be an instant success.