Mnik101 From United States of America, joined exactly 7 years ago today! , 167 posts, RR: 0 Posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3171 times:
Discovery Channel has a show going in-depth on the Tenerife crash. Just giving everyone a heads up.
AirBuffalo From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 136 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3112 times:
Great program. Explained everything using modern 3-d models and renderings which are an invaluable tool for visualize exactly what happened that day.
Unlike a lot of other air disaster programs, they did a great job of sticking to the facts and not over-dramatizing it.
TrijetsRMissed From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2099 posts, RR: 6 Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3092 times:
I hope they replay this a couple times and make a series out of the different airline accidents much like Nat. Geo has done with "Seconds from Disaster."
It was done well without the over dramatization and I enjoyed the interviews with the F/O and flight attendants.
TrijetsRMissed From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2099 posts, RR: 6 Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3073 times:
LTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12333 posts, RR: 12 Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2966 times:
It apparently was part of a series of programs of worst disasters, using the Tenerief crash for the worst aircraft accident. It noted the continued risk of such accidents, especially as to the lack of certain voice radio conflicts and other issues, such as caused a similar accident at Linante Airport in Oct. 2001 (SAS MD-87). I noted the multiple 'perfect storm' that caused this accident, including terrorism (causing the diversion of the KLM aircraft), poor cockpit management, ego of pilots, lack of good ground management, poor emergency management, fog, and so on. The use of CGI helped understand better the multiple issues that caused this accident, although it tended to be more negative toward the KLM Pilot, but still show the confusion of the tower and PanAm pilot in the stressful and foggy conditions.
They had some of the surviving PanAm crew, incuding the Pilot (and the co-pilot or FE?) and 2 of the f/a's discuss the flight. They had the Pilot and the Co/FE, along with an expert doing their segments at Mojave airport storage, using a long stored 747, including cockpit and outside shots. The a/c used was a 747-238B, last reg N17025 under CO, out of service since March 1999 and still in storage (previously PE N610PE and QF VH-EBF, originally delivered in 1973 - is in pic files).
MSPGUY From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 190 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2930 times:
I watched it last night, and had never heard of that crash before. What surprised me was the cockiness of the KLM captain. They never came out and said it, but it's thought that he started the take off roll before he had clearance. Then he ignored his F/E's suggestion that the Pan AM bird was still on the runway. WOW, ignorance is bliss, I guess.
727Tiger From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 225 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2889 times:
I just happened onto it last night. I thought it was well-done. It did seem to put the KLM pilot in a negative light, which is probably deservedly so if he began his takeoff roll before receiving clearance to do so. It may also be that, with no one from the KLM flight surviving to tell their part of the story, the story naturally flowed more to the PanAm crew's version of events.
Nonetheless, it was a well-done show, explaining the most horrific airliner crash I can recall in my lifetime (I was 11 or 12 at the time).
Litz From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1745 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2762 times:
I noticed one "oops", in that at the beginning, when talking about famous photos of aircraft accidents, they showed the video of the 767 forced ditching (Ethiopian Airlines 961) but called it a 757.
The best line in the whole show, came from the flight attendant at the very end ... when flying in for her interview for the show, asked to move up to an empty seat by the emergency exit ...
The FA on the flight asked her if she was willing and able to handle the emergency exit in case of emergency ... her response? "I've done it"
Mirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7419 posts, RR: 65 Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2716 times:
I actually found the program to be a bit of a let down. I happened upon it and found myself stuggling to stay awake and overly repetitive.
A few months ago, probably around Sept/Oct, Nova (public television) aired a show about the Tenerife accident and I found it more informative, with better footage and interviews. The same pilot was interviewed as well as other passengers. I hope they air it again.
Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 5): They had some of the surviving PanAm crew, incuding the Pilot (and the co-pilot or FE?) and 2 of the f/a's discuss the flight. They had the Pilot and the Co/FE, along with an expert doing their segments at Mojave airport storage, using a long stored 747, including cockpit and outside shots. The a/c used was a 747-238B, last reg N17025 under CO, out of service since March 1999 and still in storage (previously PE N610PE and QF VH-EBF, originally delivered in 1973 - is in pic files).
Wow, you've got a great eye for catching all those details!
Quoting Litz (Reply 8): The FA on the flight asked her if she was willing and able to handle the emergency exit in case of emergency ... her response? "I've done it"
She's a spunky one. On the other show I mentioned, they show her saying how right after the crash, she wanted to go and start her family. Then then clipped to another pax lamenting how she lost her husband in the accident. Terrible edit job.
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