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AR Hub In SJU?  
User currently offlineAA767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2360 posts, RR: 26
Posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2287 times:

This is cut from Wikipedia.com

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An expansion plan in 2004 included the creation of subsidiaries in Chile, Uruguay, and Bolivia, as well as a hub at Luis Muñoz Marín International Airport in San Juan, Puerto Rico, which would allow the airline to become one of the biggest groups in Latin America. The airline is now owned by Grupo Marsans (92%), the government of Argentina (5%), and employees (3%) and employs 7,016 staff (at January 2005).

I know Wikipedia tends to not be accurate, but is there any basis to this?


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User currently offlineUSADreamliner From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2198 times:

That was the plan a few years ago.
Also a hub in Athens (???) and the creation of Aerolineas del Peru. And probably many, many other promises over the years.

At least they are still flying...


User currently offline2travel2know From Panama, joined Apr 2005, 3580 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2136 times:

I can imagine how attractive will be for Southamericans to fly to SJO (an U.S. airport) go thru immigration and customs and make connections to other U.S. Cities.
If AR wants to start a Puertorican airline, still connecting @ SJU won't be as attractive as @ MIA.
If grupo Marsans wants to expand in The Caribbean, they could try buying in VH, JM and BW.



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User currently offlineAA767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2360 posts, RR: 26
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2114 times:

Quoting 2travel2know (Reply 2):
can imagine how attractive will be for Southamericans to fly to SJO (an U.S. airport) go thru immigration and customs and make connections to other U.S. Cities.

You mean SJU not SJO. And SJU is not the chaotic mess that MIA is, not to mention PTY is not doing to hot either when it comes to handling a large bank of flights coming in at peak times.



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User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2920 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2091 times:

How maximized are the facilities at SJU? I was there a few years back and between AA/Eagle it was hopping. I've always thought AA could add more South American service from SJU, but outside CCS, is there decent traffic elsewhere? Is there enough traffic to sustain a second hub/focus city operation?

User currently offlineUSADreamliner From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2066 times:

Aerolineas can do fine with seasonal flight to the caribbean, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Isla Margarita plus the regular flight to Cancun.
A hub in San Juan means competing against AA, and that's suicidal.
I think it's crucial for Aerolineas to find a solid partner, and soon. A good one would be AA ( but, I see CO/DL as more feasible candidates) and AF in Europe.


User currently offline2travel2know From Panama, joined Apr 2005, 3580 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2064 times:

Quoting AA767400 (Reply 3):
You mean SJU not SJO. And SJU is not the chaotic mess that MIA is, not to mention PTY is not doing to hot either when it comes to handling a large bank of flights coming in at peak times.

Sorry about the typo. PTY? what does PTY have to do with this topic?

Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 4):
I've always thought AA could add more South American service from SJU, but outside CCS, is there decent traffic elsewhere? Is there enough traffic to sustain a second hub/focus city operation?

I think AA applied for SJU-PMV but don't really know if it's operating.
About other Southamerican destiantions for AA out of SJU, I would guess the attractive ones could be: MAR, BOG, weekend SJO (Costa Rica is popular destination for Puertoricans) plus GEO/PBM (because the AA SJU hub).
It would be nice to see AA expand its SJU hub a bit more and fly B737 between Puerto Rico and Northern Brazil, I'm thinking Brazil - SJU - BOS/PVD here, but I'm affraid Brazilians will want to connect in MIA when traveling between mainland U.S. and their country.

[Edited 2007-01-11 16:58:28]


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User currently offlineAA767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2360 posts, RR: 26
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2038 times:

Quoting 2travel2know (Reply 6):
but I'm affraid Brazilians will want to connect in MIA when traveling between mainland U.S. and their country.

Most passengers try to avoid MIA. It is a big O&D destination, but when it comes to connecting there, it is best avoided.

Having said that most passengers would prefer SJU over MIA due to the size and easier walking distances. Unless you mean the Brazilians have family in Miami to stopover for a couple of days.



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User currently offlineEastern023 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 871 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1976 times:

I could only see AR go belly up soon!. No membership to any "Mega" alliance, Poor service and connections, expensive tickets.....and of course..Lan Argentina.


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User currently offlineTurk223 From Barbados, joined Aug 2003, 397 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1893 times:

Sort of related to the topic...

Didn't AR operate some 727-100s around the Caribbean and also Toronto to feed the MIA-EZE flights in the late 90s?

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Maybe they wanted to try the same thing in SJU?


User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1882 times:

I do remember plans that AR had of starting an EZE-SJU flight with the A340-200 but I never heard anything about a hub at SJU.


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User currently offlineBqnco From Puerto Rico, joined Jan 2007, 28 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1733 times:

yeah, and they never did start EZE-SJU either. South and Central American destinations from SJU havent quite grown from the past years either. The Only thing available is AA to CCS and CM to PTY. Most Pax going to south/central American choose to go on CM via PTY. Sometimes CM have charters and/or seasonal flights out of SJU to SJO and GUA. TACA also comes to SJU during the summer in a red eye flight to SJO. Mexicana Also tries SJU-CUN/MEX in the summer. LAN tried, never could. To SCL. AA did fly to Margarita Island on the summer season last year. Did once heard IB planned on doing SJU-PTY/SJO/GUA/CCS but never came even close. When they closed MIA Hub.

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