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The Most Likely A380 Routes, For All Airlines.  
User currently offlineKaitak744 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2397 posts, RR: 3
Posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 47946 times:

This is a list I compiled of the routes which are most likely to have the A380. This was done by me, with no official airline information that they will do these routes (ie: it is basically my opinion.) I would like to refine this list: make changes, fill in the blanks, make it more realistic and probable.


Air France 10--- 5 routes
CDG-YUL, CDG-NRT, CDG-JFK, CDG-LAX, ?

China Southern 5---2 routes
CAN-LAX, CAN-CDG

Emirates 43---22 routes
DXB-LHR, and who knows...

Etihad Airways 4---2 routes
AUH-LHR, ?

Kingfisher Airlines 5---2 routes
BOM-LHR, BOM-SYD

Korean Air 5---2 routes
ICN-LAX, ICN-LHR

Lufthansa 15---7 routes
FRA-JFK, FRA-LAX, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?

Malaysia Airlines 6---3 routes
KUL-LHR, ?, ?

Qantas 20---10 routes
(2x)SYD-LHR, (2x)MEL-LHR, MEL-LAX, (2x) SYD-LAX, BNE-LAX, AKL-LAX, SYD-FRA

Qatar Airways 2---1 route
DOH-LHR

*Singapore Airlines 19---10 routes
SIN-NRT-LAX, SIN-HKG-SFO, (3x)SIN-SYD, (3x)SIN-LHR, SIN-FRA, SIN-FRA-JFK. **(1-1 long-haul 744 replacement)

Thai Airways 6---3 routes
?, ?, ?

Virgin Atlantic 6---3 routes
LHR-JFK, LHR-LAX, LHR-HKG-SYD


* with 19 aircraft only 9 routes are technically possible. However, SIN-SYD is not that long, so that is why I squeezed in 10 routes.
** 1-1 747 long-haul replacement except ZRH and CDG which get 777-300ERs.

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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21544 posts, RR: 59
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 47944 times:

Something tells me if you did a search, you might find 10-200 threads on this topic. Call it a hunch. And since the airlines proposing to fly the MegaJet haven't fundamentally changed in years nor have new carriers been added, I think those predictions are just as valid today as they were 2, 3, 6 or 12 months ago...  Wink


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User currently offlineBuck3y3nut From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 881 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 47937 times:

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
Kingfisher Airlines 5---2 routes
BOM-LHR, BOM-SYD

I know for a fact that Vijay Mallya (Owner of Kingfisher) wants to start non-stop service from BLR-SFO using one of his 380's. He might also start a non-stop service from BOM/DEL/BLR to NYC. Don't know for sure yet...


User currently offlineKaitak744 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2397 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 47924 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 1):
Something tells me if you did a search, you might find 10-200 threads on this topic. Call it a hunch. And since the airlines proposing to fly the MegaJet haven't fundamentally changed in years nor have new carriers been added, I think those predictions are just as valid today as they were 2, 3, 6 or 12 months ago...

I did no a search, and came up with not 200 threads, but a few. However, they are old and most of the airlines' intentions have changed: those are not all that valid anymore.

Quoting Buck3y3nut (Reply 2):
I know for a fact that Vijay Mallya (Owner of Kingfisher) wants to start non-stop service from BLR-SFO using one of his 380's. He might also start a non-stop service from BOM/DEL/BLR to NYC. Don't know for sure yet...

I thought those were A340-500 routes. They ordered 5 of those too I think.


User currently offlineBosWashSprStar From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 199 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 47892 times:

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
Qantas 20---10 routes
(2x)SYD-LHR, (2x)MEL-LHR, MEL-LAX, (2x) SYD-LAX, BNE-LAX, AKL-LAX, SYD-FRA

Is BNE-LAX such a huge market? I really have no idea. I mean, I guess someday when all the 744s are retired, it has to be something else, but I would have guessed that market skewed on the smaller side as compared to the MEL and SYD routes.

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
Emirates 43---22 routes
DXB-LHR, and who knows...

DXB-JFK is a pretty sure shot, too, but EK has so many on order that it's barely worth speculating . . . it would more of a process of elimination.


User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 47842 times:

Why do you think SQ would fly a WhaleJet FRA-JFK ... and leave it parked at JFK all day? Look for that to be a 777-300ER.

User currently offlineCentrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3598 posts, RR: 20
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 47824 times:

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
Lufthansa 15---7 routes
FRA-JFK, FRA-LAX, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?

I would not be surprised if one route is FRA-NRT.

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
Emirates 43---22 routes
DXB-LHR, and who knows...

They will try for an NRT slot in 2008. There will be limited slots available and the best EK will get is one daily.

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
Korean Air 5---2 routes
ICN-LAX, ICN-LHR

That leaves one plane free... running back and forth to NRT or to HKG.



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User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 47823 times:

When it comes to the A380, no matter the airline, the usual suspects always come to mind:

LHR, FRA, CDG, LAX, SFO, JFK, NRT, SYD.


User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 23
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 47807 times:

Always an interesting topic. Good job so far. Here's what I think you can add...

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
Korean Air 5---2 routes
ICN-LAX, ICN-LHR

CDG is the number one European destination for Korean tourists. It is also the home of leading Skyteam partner Air France. I expect CDG to see KE's A380s before LHR.

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
Lufthansa 15---7 routes
FRA-JFK, FRA-LAX, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?

Expect a lot more than 7 routes with 15 A380s for LH. Many of their longhaul routes (US East Coast, Indian sub continent) require only 1 aircraft for a daily return. Same goes for Air France and Virgin.

To add to your list.. FRA-BOM, FRA-DEL, FRA-BKK, FRA-HKG, FRA-ORD

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
Thai Airways 6---3 routes
?, ?, ?

BKK-FRA (possibly twice a day on some days), BKK-LHR (also possibly twice a day on some days)

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
Malaysia Airlines 6---3 routes
KUL-LHR, ?, ?

KUL-AMS AMS only realistic chance, at the moment, to see A380 service. Perhaps some service to the Indian sub continent aswell.

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
Qatar Airways 2---1 route
DOH-LHR

twice a day or an additional destination such as CDG or BOM.


Future A380 destinations (based on current A380 orderbook) for more than one airline IMO.

European carriers that ordered the A380 will most likely send them to India, HKG, NRT, JFK, SFO, LAX and BKK.
Asian airlines to LHR, CDG, FRA, SYD, SFO and LAX.
Gulf carriers to LHR, CDG, FRA, India, BKK, NRT, HKG and SYD



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User currently offlineKaitak744 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2397 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 47791 times:

::Update::

Air France 10--- 5 routes
CDG-YUL, CDG-NRT, CDG-JFK, CDG-LAX, ?

China Southern 5---2 routes
CAN-LAX, CAN-CDG

Emirates 43---22 routes
DXB-LHR, DXB-NRT, DXB-JFK, DXB-SYD, ?, ?, ......

Etihad Airways 4---2 routes
AUH-LHR, ?

Kingfisher Airlines 5---2 routes
BOM-LHR, BOM-SYD

Korean Air 5---2 routes
ICN-LAX, ICN-LHR

Lufthansa 15---7 routes
FRA-JFK, FRA-LAX, FRA-NRT, ?, ?, ?, ?

Malaysia Airlines 6---3 routes
KUL-LHR, ?, ?

Qantas 20---10 routes
(2x)SYD-LHR, (2x)MEL-LHR, MEL-LAX, (2x) SYD-LAX, BNE-LAX, AKL-LAX, SYD-FRA

Qatar Airways 2---1 route
DOH-LHR

Singapore Airlines 19---9 routes
SIN-NRT-LAX, SIN-HKG-SFO, (3x)SIN-SYD, (3x)SIN-LHR, SIN-FRA. **(1-1 long-haul 744 replacement)

Thai Airways 6---3 routes
BKK-LHR, ?, ?

Virgin Atlantic 6---3 routes
LHR-JFK, LHR-LAX, LHR-HKG-SYD


User currently offlineGemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5719 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 47595 times:

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 9):
Qantas 20---10 routes
(2x)SYD-LHR, (2x)MEL-LHR, MEL-LAX, (2x) SYD-LAX, BNE-LAX, AKL-LAX, SYD-FRA

I am sure we have done this before!
QF:
MEL-LAX(2); SYD-LAX(2) <-- announced 4 airframes
2nd daily SYD-LAX (2); MEL-AKL-LAX (2) <-- Guess 1; 4 airframes Total = 8
SYD-BKK-LHR (3); SYD-SIN-LHR (3); MEL-HKG-LHR (3); MEL-SIN-LHR (3) <--Guess 2 12 airframes Total =20 Number on order = 20!

Oz -LHR takes MORE than 2 airframes. The route is 23.5 hours ONE WAY, that is 47 hours return, NOT counting ANY time spent at LHR. Min turn around time at LHR for QF is 6 hours due to slot times. So min return time SYD/MEL-LHR return is 53 hours for two flights, the other two spend about 14 hours at LHR, again due to slot times, giving a min return time of 61 hours.

To operate any other route would require the conversion of the 4 options/more orders.

Gemuser



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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 47566 times:

Quoting Buck3y3nut (Reply 2):
I know for a fact that Vijay Mallya (Owner of Kingfisher) wants to start non-stop service from BLR-SFO using one of his 380's. He might also start a non-stop service from BOM/DEL/BLR to NYC. Don't know for sure yet...

Given on Airbus own website that the A380 could do 15,000km and BLR-SFO is 14,000km (still air), its going to be quite interseting to see what Mr. Mallya will do if he decides to use the A380 on this particular route (configuration, etc)....he's already complaining of losses due to too much competition.. spin 

IIRC, there were reports (comments actually) where SQ was concerned about Airbus doing HKG-SIN (and one of the reasons as to why CX is hesitating on ordering the A380)..and that's only 11,200km.....

Also, I believe Mallya stated that the A345 would be used for BLR-SFO...



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User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 47482 times:

Quoting Juventus (Reply 7):
When it comes to the A380, no matter the airline, the usual suspects always come to mind:

LHR, FRA, CDG, LAX, SFO, JFK, NRT, SYD.

 checkmark 

And SIN, ORD, MIA, BKK, JNB, DBX, HKG, PVG, PEK, ICN
every place you see loads of 747's

A consideration made by many low costs airlines is that they don't want flights longer then e.g. 1.5 hour because they can make less flights per day, decreasing fleet utilization.

For the A380 this could mean you try to avoid flights longer then say 10-10.5 hours to increase utilization. However many other network considerations of course..


User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 47452 times:

Quoting Keesje (Reply 12):
Quoting Juventus (Reply 7):
When it comes to the A380, no matter the airline, the usual suspects always come to mind:

LHR, FRA, CDG, LAX, SFO, JFK, NRT, SYD.

checkmark

And SIN, ORD, MIA, BKK, JNB, DBX, HKG, PVG, PEK, ICN
every place you see loads of 747's

1)SFO and ORD will barely see any A380's (I agree with most of the usual suspects)
2) I'm sure you meant DXB and not DBX... Wink



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User currently offline9MMAR From Malaysia, joined Jul 2006, 2110 posts, RR: 18
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 47410 times:

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 9):
Malaysia Airlines 6---3 routes
KUL-LHR, ?, ?

The initial plan is for KUL-LHR, KUL-SYD and KUL-MEL.

But since then, MH was involved in a financial mishap, which may seen them reviewing their plan to purchase the equipments.

The above routes as well have been experiencing some changes since MH announced their Business Turnaround Plan. KUL-LHR is now served by MH only twice a day from 18x weekly. KUL-MEL will no longer be served by 744s soon and KUL-SYD will be extended to KUL-SYD-BNE. Nevertheless, it is highly likely that MH (or its parent PMB) will proceed with the purchase given the fact that the A380 related upgrading works are currently being undertaken at KUL, costing some MYR 135 million.


User currently offlineMaartenV From Netherlands, joined Aug 2005, 271 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 47387 times:

Quoting 9MMAR (Reply 14):
The initial plan is for KUL-LHR, KUL-SYD and KUL-MEL.

Wasn't KUL-AMS planned as well?

I also remember reading somewhere that China Southern was planning to deploy an A380 to Amsterdam, but I can't remember where, so I realize that I'm not making a very well funded statement right now.



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User currently offlineGemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5719 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 47379 times:

Quoting Juventus (Reply 7):
When it comes to the A380, no matter the airline, the usual suspects always come to mind:

LHR, FRA, CDG, LAX, SFO, JFK, NRT, SYD.

Why does MEL always get forgetten? MEL-LAX is announced as QFs first A380 route!

Gemuser



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User currently offlineFlyingfool From Netherlands, joined May 2005, 441 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 47336 times:

Quoting MaartenV (Reply 15):
I also remember reading somewhere that China Southern was planning to deploy an A380 to Amsterdam, but I can't remember where, so I realize that I'm not making a very well funded statement right now.

It's more or less logical to sent the 380 first to AMS i.s.o. CDG (as mentioned before) as AMS is already served daily from CAN via PEK and CDG get's only 2 weekly services next to 3x AF with A343.

Regards, Flyingfool


User currently offlineTommyBP251b From Germany, joined Apr 2006, 460 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 47198 times:

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
Emirates 43---22 routes
DXB-LHR, and who knows...

What about DXB-DUS? Would the runway in DUS be long enough for the DUS-DXB flight?



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User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7415 posts, RR: 57
Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 47149 times:

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 9):
Air France 10--- 5 routes
CDG-YUL, CDG-NRT, CDG-JFK, CDG-LAX, ?

CDG-PEK (probably before CDG-LAX). CDG-SIN is also now rumored.


User currently offlineBurkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4402 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 47075 times:

From Europe more into Asia, even Peking, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Singapore, Taipeh, Bangkok, Bombay. Less into the US.

FRA, LHR are limited in slots, and growth is in the East Asia market.


User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 47021 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 13):
SFO and ORD will barely see any A380's

I agree about ORD barely seeing any A380s, that's why I didn't mention it. As far as SFO, I disagree with you. Chances are most Asian airlines that will operate the aircraft will send it to SFO eventually, along with a couple European carriers. Yes, LAX and JFK will get the most in the U.S, but SFO will get its fair share.


User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8437 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 46973 times:
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Lufthansa and Air France will send their A380's to Tokyo or Bust. Hong Kong will also be an early route for the two European airlines. For AF, Montreal and JFK will be amog the first routes since an airplane can do a round trip. Lufthansa will do teh UA hubs and JFK.

User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2893 posts, RR: 18
Reply 23, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 46934 times:

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
Emirates 43---22 routes
DXB-LHR, and who knows...

DXB-LHR--2 flights 2 aircrafts
DXB-SYD--1 flight 2 aircrafts
DXB-MEL--1 flight 2 aircrafts
DXB-JFK---1 flight 2 aircrafts
DXB-MNL---1 flight 1 aircraft
DXB-SIN---1 aircraft
DXB-BKK--2 aircrafts--2 flights
DXB-PER--1 aircraft.

5 aircraft for short range medium density routes like BOM/DEL/KHI and HAJ operations.

So thats about 18 aircraft f.... knows where they are gonna put the remaining.

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
Kingfisher Airlines 5---2 routes
BOM-LHR, BOM-SYD

BOM-LHR will definitly not utilise that much cpacity given the amount of capacity on it already---BOM-SYD
QF dont fill a 333 3x weekly i doubt an A380 will be filled

VJM did say in the airbus press release that he would want to use it on the BOM-JFK sector with 496 seats ---honestly i do not see him using it anywhere but since he has got to put it some where.

Karan


User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3116 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 46896 times:

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 23):
So thats about 18 aircraft f.... knows where they are gonna put the remaining.

Lease them to other airlines.....?


25 Post contains links and images Jacobin777 : Hey, living in the Bay Area, I personally wouldn't mind seeing a few of the Big Beasts landing on to the 28's..or even the 19's like this QF below...
26 Poitin : I suspect if more than a couple 380s show up each day at SFO, they will quickly wear out their welcome. The problem is SFO's runways and taxiways are
27 Twa@fra : in a germany aviation magazine the ceo of korean air reported that he will use the a380 to fra --> after beeing ask for routes of the a380 , he told t
28 ForgotMyNick : Just a thought.. Anyone seeing SIN-EWR route? ...or rather not - for the reasons above? This flight is 18hrs+ but it's usually packed so I guess SQ m
29 Zvezda : The WhaleJet doesn't have the range to serve SIN-EWR.
30 Pfletch1228 : The one destination everyone seems to be forgetting is JNB. ORTIA is currently building a new international pier that is capable of handling at least
31 PanAmOldDC8 : Can't see YUL in this as the traffic between Paris and Montreal is not that big AF is flying with a 60% load last summer and that was with a much sma
32 Post contains images FlySSC : Where did you get that ? AF has 3 x Daily flights on CDG-YUL-CDG during the summer. Next summer 2007 : 2 x Daily B744 + 1 x Daily A332/A343. A 4th DA
33 FlyDekker : It's more or less logical to sent the 380 first to AMS i.s.o. CDG (as mentioned before) as AMS is already served daily from CAN via PEK and CDG get's
34 PanAmOldDC8 : From an Air France employee in YUL
35 Jaws707 : If my memory serves me right I believe that AF is planning on flying the plane to Mexico City as well as Miami. Lufthansa was going to fly it to Mexic
36 Desediez : Here i would add FRA-BKK, FRA-JNB, FRA-DEL, FRA-MIA, FRA-HKG, FRA-SIN, FRA-ORD regards desediez
37 LHStarAlliance : FRA :-NRT , -HKG , -PDG,-DFW,-MIA,-JNB,-GRU,-EZE,-PEK,-SIN,...
38 Kaitak744 : Thats too much for 15 planes. I was thinking about Kingfisher serving the kangaroo route. ::Update:: Air France 10--- 5 routes CDG-YUL, CDG-NRT, CDG-
39 Post contains images Breiz : You are forgetting the busiest route so far, TLS-XFW (ok not airline)
40 Hoons90 : CDG or FRA will probably get the A380 before LHR. LHR wasn't even daily with KE a couple of years ago, and during Winter 2005/2006 it even got downgr
41 Zvezda : I fly this route frequently. My preference (and evidently that of many others) is SQ over LH. On the late SQ FRA-SIN flight that flies wingtips with
42 KangarooMAN : Hi all I'll add an intresting thought EK DXB-MAN or DXB-MAN-US I heard thats why the 3rd MAN service will happen to use 5th freedom rights to the US s
43 ORDRyan28 : add ORD to that list. Probably the only carrier that has said they will fly the beast to ORD.
44 Post contains images Buck3y3nut : Sorry for the mis-information and thank you for the correction. I forgot that the also ordered the A345's
45 ORDRyan28 : I'd add JFK, definitely, to those.. I'd assume the 380 for Thai would be used on LAX routes..
46 Kaitak744 : Having the largest Thai population outside Thailand, one would assume Los Angeles to be Thai Airways' busiest route. But they only have a daily A340-
47 ORDRyan28 : that's true. It really makes me wonder. well, if they can significantly fill an A346, I'd assume (on occasion) the 380 would be suitable.
48 Abrelosojos : = What!!! HKG-SIN is 11,200kms? For a small sum, I am sure I can find you a shorter route. Cheers, A.
49 Zvezda : The WhaleJet doesn't have the range to operate LAX-BKK nonstop. It's not even close.
50 BlrBird : I dont think BLR has enough market for 380, IT will use its 380's from DEL and BOM, to where I have no clue! IT 345's will be used on BOM-NYC and BLR
51 Gemuser : Airbus is quoting 8000 nm, still air. BKK-LAX is 7186 nm, so eastbound is no problem, westbound could sometimes have problems at times. Gemuser
52 Gemuser : We HAVE had this discussion before! QF is 7 routes not ten. The route SYD-HKG-LHR is incorrect as QF DO NOT fly this route. The route flown is MEL-HK
53 Gemuser : BOM-SYD seems unlikely as AI not Kingfisher hold traffic rights India-Oz. Unless the bi-lateral is liberlised or AI give them up Kingfisher is a non
54 Irishpower : I thought that I heard that both Virgin and LH would serve SFO with A380's. I thought the LH454 FRA-SFO would be served with a A380 as well as the fli
55 Post contains images Jacobin777 : Yes...that is something I thought about also, but I doubt we'll see too many of them coming to cause taxiing problems....1-2 per day is what I'm thin
56 Anthsaun : MEX new T2 is under construction and building two gates to receive the AF and the LH´s A380. Besides that, many other airlines have mentioned that M
57 ORDRyan28 : Oh, I will be! I'd expect to see a LH 380 once in a while (summer), I was even hoping for the 380 from AF (yeah right) or IB (if they ordered it). I
58 Zvezda : Right, eastbound is no problem. Westbound is a problem only when passengers are onboard. One-way service?
59 Post contains images Desediez : Please do not mix up my predictions with those of other users (second portion). I do not see enough demand on routes to GRU and EZE for LH to put the
60 ZK-NBT : Well my picks for AKL, Possibly QF on the MEL-AKL-LAX route as pointed out above though this is currently a 2 class route and I'd guess all the A380's
61 Flyingfool : Are you sure???
62 Post contains links Gemuser : According to http://www.airbus.com/en/aircraftfamilies/productcompare/ the 8000 nm still air range is with 555 pax. Westbound WILL have problems, and
63 Zvezda : ... and an OEW about a dozen tonnes lighter than what the airlines will install. With a real world configuration, a WhaleJet could carry about 150-25
64 Gemuser : Evidance? Gemuser
65 ER757 : I'd say LH flying the A380 to ORD is a near certainty due to their code-share with UA and ORD being UA's biggest hub. There will be a large feed of p
66 Zeke : Incorrect, the 380 can do over 8000 nm, LAX to BKK (VTBS) over the airways is 7568nm. Full payload can be taken BKK-LAX, LAX-BKK with severe headwind
67 ORDRyan28 : regarding KE, I could see the 380 on occasion to ORD, although not a sky team hub.. JFK also... I think KE's main goal was to deploy the 380 on North
68 ORDRyan28 : I agree with that. I think CDG and maybe LHR will be the only European cities to see KE's a380's
69 CHI787ORD : LH has specifically stated that they intend to bring the A380 to ORD. As for other carriers bringing the A380 to ORD.... I could see both BA and AI b
70 Jacobin777 : As I said..it won't be too often..maybe once in a blue moon during the summer months (i.e-couple of times a month)..but that's about it.... I don't s
71 Juventus : In the US, this is how I see it: 1-LAX the most 2-JFK second on the list 3-SFO and MIA get a few Asian and European respectably 4-ORD LH
72 LHStarAlliance : FRA, LHR , ZRH (?) , SYD
73 Robbie86 : I think LH will use their 380 on: FRA-NRT FRA-BOM FRA-DEL FRA-HKG FRA-PEK FRA-JFK FRA-ORD FRA-LAX FRA-SFO FRA-Sao Paolo, Brazil
74 Airbazar : hardly any mentions for JNB. I think JNB has a chance at seeing more A380's than most cities in India for example. For starters I don't think any airp
75 LHStarAlliance : MAN-MIA VS filler
76 A350XWB : What about PVG, MIA & MEX? If they are ready for A380's I think they are on the target list, at least for seasonal service. My bets are: JFK, ORD, SF
77 Daron4000 : I agree that it will be LH that brings in the 380 to ORD. However, I think it is interesting to point out that per VS' press release, ORD is the 3rd
78 ORDRyan28 : That's true, but the likelihood of AI buying the A380 over the 748I is not all that great. I expect to see the 748I at ORD more often than an A380...
79 ORDRyan28 : I also think ORD has a valid chance to see the A380 in KE colors..
80 Post contains images Jacobin777 : That route would probably be a B748-I Given KE flies into the B744 into ORD, I could imagine KE bringing in their A380's there..
81 Airbazar : KE only odered 5 A380's so you won't see a KE A380 at ORD anytime soon. CDG and LAX will likely be top priorities plus a inter-Asia destination that
82 ORDRyan28 : Not necessarily true. I thought KE's main goal was to deploy their beasts to the U.S. I suppose it depends on the season and demand..
83 ORDRyan28 : All considered, from the airlines that have ordered the A380 already, ORD's best shots at seeing the beast come from LH and KE, respectively.
84 TR763 : I don´t know what are AF´s plans, but they actually fly 2X daily to GRU (If I´m not mistaken) with 77W and A330 (the 77W flight will soon change t
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