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BA To Reduce Checked Baggage Allowance?  
User currently offlineBOACVC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 611 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 8607 times:

I had a relative go through an unfortunate incident at IAD on Thursday 11th January just prior to the BA check-in counters, and wonder about future travel with BA and other airlines that follow suit. Will it be worth packing any gifts for families and other non-essential items, if the airlines want to (a) limit our checked baggage to E-X-A-C-T-L-Y 32 Kg "and not a gram more than 32 Kg", (b) reduce that same limit even further down to 23 Kg !!!!

Draconian Baggage Allowances by BA found here

Has the management of BA gone insane? Are they now run by nincompoops ? Have they any idea of what the load capacity is of the aircraft they are assigning to IAD/LHR sectors ?

I can only say from my first hand experience this afternoon, that it seemed that the reason why IAD BA would setup a separate station to "weigh" suspicious looking baggage and to refuse any luggage pieces that are even slightly over 32 Kg, citing "baggage handler liability" is pure and simple a cover story for discrimination against Asian passengers, as in the 1.5 hours we were there this afternoon, I stood next to that same station, and NOT A SINGLE CAUCASIAN passenger was asked to have their luggage weighed.

For those a.netters who are going to flame me, let me tell you what I think of those who will defend the rights of airlines to impose arbitary restrictions on luggage - we pay money to travel overseas, returning often a few years in between to destinations - there are other airlines (SQ, CX, GF, EK comes to mind) that have far more mature baggage policies than whatever you lot can think off, and given that most of our travel has to include some provisions for gifts, making such a small allowance in checked baggage on a 744 aircraft makes absolutely no sense whatsover.

Where do you travel? Do you have any friends, you would like to take gifts for, and have you ever dared to pack more than 32 Kg into your luggage and hoped for some leniency when you checked in ? I'd like to ask BA staff to confirm they have never, ever, dared to cross that magic 32 Kg or checked in a cabin baggage themselves that didn't fit "in the specified sample container", that is so prominently placed at the front of the check-in line.

Perhaps I am the only one who thinks this way, and all others are happy with carrying nothing on their international flights with 2PC baggage allowances? Please do tell all.

BOACVC10


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User currently offlineAirlineAddict From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 419 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 8569 times:
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I'm sorry your family had problems on their last flight. I can see your point of view regarding the BA's strictness on the 32 kg rule, however with the price of oil, more weight = more fuel = higher cost, even if the load capacity of the aircraft is high.

My experience traveling on other airlines is that the "strictness" regarding weights is really up to the check-in counter personnel. Some are nicer, some are not.

I have traveled with family members who also like to pack up to the maximum (or beyond) with gifts and end up having to take stuff out of their bags at the check-in counter because the bags were overweight.

On the devil advocate's side, if the maximum is 32 kg as definied on the ticket (contract with the airline), why pack more than 32 kg? I never understood this about my family.


User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4772 posts, RR: 43
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 8566 times:

yes from Feb 13th onwards, BA has officially announced that all checked baggage cannot weigh more than 23KG with maximum of 2 pieces allowed per trans-atlantic passenger.

Click the link below to read please.

http://www.britishairways.com/travel/ba6.jsp/bgpolicy/public/en_us

also fyi...KLM also have a nasty reputation at IAD of singling out Indians bound for DEL/BOM on their IAD flights when it comes to baggage weight and size.


User currently offlineExFATboy From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2974 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 8543 times:

Actually, for trans-Atlantic passengers all BA is doing is coming into line with the US carriers' policies: 2 bags at 50 pounds (23kg=50.6 lbs.) For First and Business classes, BA still allows 3 at 23kg/50lb, American only allows two. CO is a little more generous for First and BusinessFirst - 3 at 70 lbs, but 2 at 50 for non-Elite coach customers.

(CO lets Elite customers go to 70 lbs on bags, even for domestic...and guess who is Elite Silver for 2007! Cool! Not that I ever have a 70 lb bag, but I have had to play around to stay under 50 sometimes...)

And for "Euro Traveller", BA still allows 1 bag at 23 kg, 3 kilos more than EasyJet.

Don't get me wrong, BA is definitely cutting back, but I wouldn't call it "draconian" - looks like they're just coming into line with the competition.


User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8897 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 8532 times:

Quoting ExFATboy (Reply 3):

(CO lets Elite customers go to 70 lbs on bags, even for domestic...and guess who is Elite Silver for 2007! Cool! Not that I ever have a 70 lb bag, but I have had to play around to stay under 50 sometimes...)

DL does the same thing. Medallions are allowed to check 3 bags at 70 lbs each (which means I can check 210 pounds of stuff and not pay a single cent; compared to 100 lbs for a non-elite). I'll be using this on Monday when I go back to school - 2 70 lb. bags full of my clothes and stuff, and my third bag being my golf clubs. Definetely helps on cutting down the shipping costs - shipping a 70 lb. box cost me $75 last year - this year, Delta will be doing that free of charge!


User currently offlineAxio From New Zealand, joined Jul 2006, 313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 8495 times:


32kg.. Luxury!
When I last flew Qantas, my ticket only allowed me 20kg all the way from London to Wellington.... and after 6 weeks overseas!


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User currently offlineVonRichtofen From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 4627 posts, RR: 36
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 8480 times:

Most majors now have a 23kg limit per bag.

My question is, what the hell are you packing that causes your bag to weigh over 32kg??? I've travelled overseas many times and my bag is NEVER even close to 32kg. It's not Draconian, it's common sense.

AC also has a 23kg limit per bag, however some destinations are exempt from this (HKG, DEL, NRT to name a few). Not sure if BA does this but it may be why you saw non-caucasian people "getting away" with not weighing their bags.

Kris



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User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 8479 times:

Quoting Axio (Reply 5):

32kg.. Luxury!
When I last flew Qantas, my ticket only allowed me 20kg all the way from London to Wellington.... and after 6 weeks overseas!

That's the standard allowance for economy passengers on most flights in Europe, Asia, Australia and most of Africa and South America or a flight between any of those continents. Altough it is my experience that, probably due to the low allowance, these limits aren't strictly enforced. Especially on flights to/from Asia you will at most airlines not run into problems if your bag doesn't exceed 30KG.

Why is there an exception for traffic to/from the US?



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User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3220 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 8466 times:

Fly AI or SQ instead - still 32Kgs X 2 bags allowed.


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User currently offlineBOACVC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 611 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 8446 times:

Quoting VonRichtofen (Reply 6):
what the hell are you packing

I am tempted to give the keyboard to my XYL so that she can write in some choice words which will probably burn your keyboard, but to keep some form of civility in this forum, (BTW, thanks for your comments on my post), the luggage consisted mostly of toy's for our young tot's in four families and candy and cosmetic gifts for the all individual members spread around the places in our home country.  cool 

I would assume you have family obligations as well, and perhaps you have a large sized family, so if you visit them once every two years, would you not consider bringing each a small gift ? And of course, there is the issue of weight of the clothes, if the pax is going away for four months, do you want to say that you don't take any clean clothes / coats with you on long trips ?  scratchchin 

BOACVC10



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User currently offlineLGW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 8426 times:

Quoting BOACVC10 (Thread starter):
I can only say from my first hand experience this afternoon, that it seemed that the reason why IAD BA would setup a separate station to "weigh" suspicious looking baggage and to refuse any luggage pieces that are even slightly over 32 Kg, citing "baggage handler liability" is pure and simple a cover story for discrimination against Asian passengers, as in the 1.5 hours we were there this afternoon, I stood next to that same station, and NOT A SINGLE CAUCASIAN passenger was asked to have their luggage weighed.

Absolute, unfounded rubbish.

Quoting BOACVC10 (Thread starter):
For those a.netters who are going to flame me, let me tell you what I think of those who will defend the rights of airlines to impose arbitary restrictions on luggage - we pay money to travel overseas, returning often a few years in between to destinations - there are other airlines (SQ, CX, GF, EK comes to mind) that have far more mature baggage policies than whatever you lot can think off, and given that most of our travel has to include some provisions for gifts, making such a small allowance in checked baggage on a 744 aircraft makes absolutely no sense whatsover.

You pay money to travel overseas and who offers you the opportunity to do so? The airlines, they are businesses and they put rules in place they want/need to as with any industry, if you don't like BA's baggage policy and prefer other carriers then fly them, I can't imagine it will be long until 23kgs becomes the industry average.

Quoting BOACVC10 (Thread starter):
Where do you travel? Do you have any friends, you would like to take gifts for, and have you ever dared to pack more than 32 Kg into your luggage and hoped for some leniency when you checked in ? I'd like to ask BA staff to confirm they have never, ever, dared to cross that magic 32 Kg or checked in a cabin baggage themselves that didn't fit "in the specified sample container", that is so prominently placed at the front of the check-in line.

I work for BA, I travel, I have friends, I sometimes take gifts and I have never had a case over (or near) 32kgs. The sample container is for hand baggage not checked-in baggage.

Quoting BOACVC10 (Thread starter):
Perhaps I am the only one who thinks this way, and all others are happy with carrying nothing on their international flights with 2PC baggage allowances? Please do tell all.

"Nothing"? BA allow 23kgs (with a 2kg leaway) I wouldn't call 25kgs nothing.


User currently offlineBOACVC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 611 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 8426 times:

Quoting Nimish (Reply 8):
Fly AI or SQ instead

SQ is still #1, their baggage allowance even allows for an extra "piece" if you are SQ Kris Flyer Elite Gold, and for the regular Y class, the allowance is 2 x 32 KG + infant accessories !

Singapore Airlines Checked Baggage Rules



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User currently offlineAirbus A3XX From Australia, joined May 1999, 507 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 8386 times:

Quoting BOACVC10 (Reply 9):
I would assume you have family obligations as well, and perhaps you have a large sized family, so if you visit them once every two years, would you not consider bringing each a small gift ? And of course, there is the issue of weight of the clothes, if the pax is going away for four months, do you want to say that you don't take any clean clothes / coats with you on long trips ?

I do see your point, but that is not a concern to the airline when in comes to how much you can carry. You are always welcomed to bring more on the plane by paying baggage surcharges.


User currently offlineTrekster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 8374 times:

BTW as well, BA do not handle items over 32 kgs for health and safty reasons unless its outsize baggage or cargo.
Also, the new policy is coming in line with new uk law, and you will see other airlines follow suit.


User currently offlineBongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3572 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 8282 times:

I have noticed in the past that there are certain parts of the World from which people tend to travel with huge amounts of luggage, two being Asia and parts of Africa. It thus seems logical that check in staff would concentrate on them when looking for heavy bags. Its not racist or discriminatory - purely logical. If you put this into another context when the police are investigating a crime, they interview suspects not every member of the population.

With regard to BA's policy on limiting the weight of bags, as previously posted my wife has a cousin with permanant back damage caused whilst lifting heavy bags when working for a BA contractor at check in.
Her state of health is not worth one single persons reasons for having a heavy bag. The only regret is that if BA had done this 10 years ago she would still be fit.

[Edited 2007-01-12 10:57:17]

User currently offlineLGWspeedbird From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 459 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 8260 times:

Quoting Trekster (Reply 13):
the new policy is coming in line with new uk law, and you will see other airlines follow suit.

I believe VS only allows upto 23kgs ?

Quoting LGW" class=quote target=_blank>LGW (Reply 10):
if you don't like BA's baggage policy and prefer other carriers then fly them,

Totally agree, if you dont like it fly with some other carrier! This new 23kg is for the health and safety of our baggage handlers! you only have to lift the bag onto the baggage belt! the guys downstairs have to haul it around a few more times to get it onto the a/c!

It is going to be soooo fun on check in when this new rule comes in! as LGW said there will be a 2 kg leaway but thats it!



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User currently offlineVonRichtofen From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 4627 posts, RR: 36
Reply 16, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 8183 times:

Quoting BOACVC10 (Reply 9):
I would assume you have family obligations as well, and perhaps you have a large sized family, so if you visit them once every two years, would you not consider bringing each a small gift ? And of course, there is the issue of weight of the clothes, if the pax is going away for four months, do you want to say that you don't take any clean clothes / coats with you on long trips ?

My sister lives in Taiwan, so I've done the whole care package trip a few times. I've never gone overweight. Mind you, at AC the 23kg rule is not total, but 2 bags EACH weighing 23kg so a total of 46kg per passenger. That's a lot of stuff.

Quoting LGWspeedbird (Reply 15):
This new 23kg is for the health and safety of our baggage handlers! you only have to lift the bag onto the baggage belt! the guys downstairs have to haul it around a few more times to get it onto the a/c!

I think fuel consumption is the main reason, but you're right that health and safety comes into play as well, injury rates were getting ridiculous. As a ramper I get a little bit irked when people complain that they can't check a bag that weighs nearly 100lbs, seemingly without a care for the people who have to lift it into the awkward/small cargo hold of an airplane.

Kris



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User currently offlineSpeedbird2155 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 875 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 8134 times:

Quoting BOACVC10 (Thread starter):
I can only say from my first hand experience this afternoon, that it seemed that the reason why IAD BA would setup a separate station to "weigh" suspicious looking baggage and to refuse any luggage pieces that are even slightly over 32 Kg,

The 32kgs limit as others have said has been standard. This is the limit at which any one piece will be accepted by any airline and for good reason. If you want a bag heavier than this then ship it as cargo or put it in a seperate bag and take it as cargo. I for one am very pleased to hear that my colleagues at IAD have been doing their job properly.

As for the changes, yes the limit will be reduced as of 13 Feb.

Quoting BOACVC10 (Thread starter):
Where do you travel? Do you have any friends, you would like to take gifts for, and have you ever dared to pack more than 32 Kg into your luggage and hoped for some leniency when you checked in ? I'd like to ask BA staff to confirm they have never, ever, dared to cross that magic 32 Kg or checked in a cabin baggage themselves that didn't fit "in the specified sample container", that is so prominently placed at the front of the check-in line.

As a staff member, no, I don't go above the allowed limits when I travel or I pay the excess charges like every other passenger. As for the cabin baggage, as staff, we also have to comply with the size requirement, but I only ever take a small bag as I don't need much during the flight.


User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 8070 times:

Funny why Lagos is entitled to 32KGX2 each passenger and not to other african destaination such as ACC, JNB, CPT, NBO.... and it's got nothing to do with nigerian laws as many airlines fly into LOS on the concept of weight and NOT pieces (talking in respect to BA)


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User currently offlinePanAmOldDC8 From Barbados, joined Dec 2006, 960 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 8050 times:

Quoting Axio (Reply 5):
When I last flew Qantas, my ticket only allowed me 20kg all the way from London to Wellington.... and after 6 weeks overseas!

That used to be standard on all airlines 44 lbs checked baggage, so I don't see the problem. I can't remember Air Canada's allowance, but it seems to me that they cut their baggage allowance way back last year, might be wrong but I think that my allowance was a lot less last year



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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13088 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 8021 times:

There is no doubt of a trend to try to limit total luggage weight per pax and per bag for a number of reasons as suggested above including fuel savings, reducing injury of baggage handlers, and to just to reduce the weight and volume of baggage onto a/c's. I would like to suggest other possible reasons:
Increased baggage per passenger, with more overweight and total overweight baggage, adding significant weight per flight. That may increases the fuel burn.
Smaller aircraft are being used today and they are more crowded with pax, so less room for baggage and other paying freight.
More bags and heavier bags = slower turn around times at gates, thus less utilization rates and higher costs.
Over recent years, most of baggage handling at airports has been contracted out to 3 party companies rather than airline employees. Those employees are probably not paid as well or have the benefits of those who used to be direct airline employees so their productivity may not be as good and those workers are seeking government to protect them from the Airlines. With contracting out bag handling, airlines now have a break down of their costs of baggage handling and as looking for any way to save money, want to reduce those costs even further. There may have been increases in those costs as more pax have more baggage and more very heavy bags causing higher bag handler injury rates, staff turnover and thus higher operating costs.
On many flights, high percentages of pax with heavy and excess baggage, and the reality that they cannot take it all. In the USA, as to flights to the Caribbean, most airlines have to strictly limit the amount of baggage due to almost everybody bringing items home.
One has to wonder too if with some countries, they are trying to discourage excess baggage to protect local businesses.


User currently offlineKaneporta1 From Greece, joined May 2005, 739 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 7998 times:

What I don't understand is the European/Domestic allowance. From Feb 13th, only one piece is allowed, max weight 23kg. That's fine so far, but there is no clarification if you can carry more bags for free as long as the 23kg limit is not exceeded. So if I have a bag of apples that weighs 10kg and a bag of oranges that weighs 10kg, and don't want to mix apples with oranges, do I have to pay the ridiculous £60 extra bag charge?


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User currently offlineBongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3572 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 7990 times:

Quoting Kaneporta1 (Reply 21):
What I don't understand is the European/Domestic allowance. From Feb 13th, only one piece is allowed, max weight 23kg. That's fine so far, but there is no clarification if you can carry more bags for free as long as the 23kg limit is not exceeded. So if I have a bag of apples that weighs 10kg and a bag of oranges that weighs 10kg, and don't want to mix apples with oranges, do I have to pay the ridiculous £60 extra bag charge?

You have answered your own question One bag 23kg max included with ticket price, any additional bags extra payment required.


User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 23, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 7983 times:

Quoting Kaneporta1 (Reply 21):
do I have to pay the ridiculous £60 extra bag charge?

Unfortunately yes.... or what some passengers do is attach the 2 bags together (Only in africa Smile)



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User currently offlineLGW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 7893 times:

The reduction in baggage allowance and sunsequent increase in excess baggage will earn BA somewhere in the region of £30m per year, this is another reason, as well as health and safety that the measure is coming in.

25 Post contains links BOACVC10 : You obviously assumed that due to my questions, I had neither the capability nor the intention to comply with the rules of excess baggage, despite ha
26 PanAmOldDC8 : My God, man, what the hell are you moving your house? When I travel I have a carry on and a small suitcase. When on holiday I have one suitcase 10 kg
27 Sebring : Here's the bottom line. Fuel is now most airlines' number one expense. Luggage is weight. If the airlines have a 32 kilo per bag, two bag limit, vers
28 Naritaflyer : Very patronizing of you to say so. Just because you don't pack much doesn't mean that's the right way. I wear a Rolex watch but some guy might say: "
29 Sebring : How arrogant of you to expect other flyers to subsidize your shopping trips.
30 Naritaflyer : Just as arrogant as airlines charging an astronomical amount for a J ticket and then nickel and dime me for baggage allowance. My issue is not with o
31 PanAmOldDC8 : Must be nice to have a lot of money to spend on trivial things. Don't mean this as an offense. But when I worked for Pan Am I hated to see people wit
32 CRJ900 : FR and Sterling are going down to 15kgs these days IIRC. Watch other airlines follow suit. Enjoy the 23kgs while they last...
33 AJMIA : I don't believe he assumes you do not have the capability or intention to pay for your excess bag weight. I think he is reinforcing the fact that as
34 Naritaflyer : I'm sorry but the argument of obeying the rules does not apply here. First of all, when I go to a restaurant or hotel and have a good time I leave a l
35 ClassicLover : Move to another country. You'll find you're leaving crap behind even with 32 in the bag and 6 in the carry on. I did it last year. The QF baggage mov
36 Soups : an empty bag is 6-7kilos alone, so usually its 16kilos you are entitled.
37 Sebring : I don't know what planet you're living on, but in this part of the world, taxi fares have gone up with fuel. So has bus fare, rail fares, the cost of
38 PanAmOldDC8 : Airlines are in the business of making money not losing it and if they have to burn extra fuel that costs money, which you the passenger will pay for
39 Post contains images BOACVC10 : I was thinking long and hard about this fact, as I read the responses from a.netters: the empty weight of the roll-on bags with wheels and handles th
40 BOACVC10 : The passengers who travel long-haul are not going for a short vacation (1-2 days, or 1-2 weeks), that is a given fact, you don't travel 12,000 miles
41 Bongodog1964 : IMO opinion airfares are less expensive than ever, quite how do you feel that airlines are dishonest, when taking the industry as a whole, the profit
42 Naritaflyer : Don't get me wrong I understand business and I understand airline economics. I just don't trust airlines. I don't believe what they say. They are try
43 AirSpare : Rant on. So, my company just paid about USD12k for a biz ticket MCO-MIA-LHR-LAD, where I'm basing for 6 months. I brought tools and test equipment, so
44 Bongodog1964 : If they can afford 12k to send you j class, they can afford to pay the excess baggage or fed ex your tools. Its a bit more difficult than lifting you
45 JER757 : Operating an airline is an EXTREMELY expensive business, particularly short haul. Most LCC's are down to ~20Kg due to the extra cost incurred in flyi
46 Post contains images Cusaeng : and i am sure if she looked at the ticket it would have 32 kg not 32.5 printed on it. thats what she payed for and thats the rules. no we call it a r
47 Manny : Good for you. But that does not mean every human being on the planet should adhere to that. Its an observation. Unless you were there with him how ca
48 PanAmOldDC8 : My point exactly, see my earlier posting. Got sick and tired of pulling suitcases around airports. Told the wife one day that we would buy what we ne
49 PanAmOldDC8 : We are lucky these days, remember the days when air fare was twice what it is today and people still traveled, not as many as now,however. I know you
50 PanAmOldDC8 : That is a bit unfair. I have worked in the airline industry as a cargo supervisor, in those days we had to lift stuff on to the flights. When it was
51 Robsawatsky : And if they don't adhere to it they should happily pay the extra baggage fees. You make your choice and pay for it, someone else makes their choice t
52 Aisak : It's not about fees. He said he'd happily pay the excess fee for anything above 32kg but the agent refused to accept anything bigger (heavier) than 3
53 StealthZ : Why take clothes for 4 months, that doesn't make sense. No one needs clothes for more than a week or so. Just manage your wardrobe a little smarter.
54 Manny : I am not saying its an easy job. Infact its quite the contrary. But at the same time, if you do not like it don't you think you should try doing some
55 PurpleBox : Currently I'm living in Nürnberg but I'm British. I travel either NUE-MAN or NUE-LON and if I am only allowed a single hold item I will not be flying
56 PanAmOldDC8 : That's the way to do it. Have done that many times. A little inconvenient for the pax but it saved them money in the long run
57 Flyyy : it actually is not in the agents discretion to let something heavier than 32kg trough. some (or all, i am not sure) will get weighed in london, if the
58 LGWspeedbird : The guys at LGW are nowhere near lightweights!!! OK then how about you try that with a 70 pound bag for 8+ hours a day I wonder how your back would f
59 Soups : sending it via post is cheaper
60 Jacobin777 : J ticket flyers will still be allowed to check in 3 luggages....I dont' see the problem...if one is traveling with a wife and 1 kid, one family will
61 Speedbird2155 : Yes, it can go as cargo and there are seperate arrangements for that which are not dealt with at the passenger terminals.
62 OHLHD : The rule is 32kg, so stick to it. Nobody cares if a woman or man is old or young. If she or he wants to travel with a lot of baggage, they have to ma
63 PurpleBox : Which means that other airlines will automatically be about £60 cheaper - my business at least will go else where and I'm a regular traveller. I wil
64 Bongodog1964 : Where one airline goes the others will surely follow.
65 PurpleBox : Maybe - but £60 for an extra bag when still below 20Kg - even Ryan Air don't do that!! PurpleBox.
66 Post contains images Fbgdavidson : I'm sorry but that is nonsense and you are looking for a reason as to why you were 'singled out' for having your bags overweight. I guess 'crying dis
67 Manny : Clarify this. So if the insurance finds out its your job to lift bags they deny you insurance in case of injury or if your job is to not lift bags &
68 Post contains images OHLHD : No my job is not to lift bags. If I do that for a passenger and something happens to my back, knees or whatever the insunrance will ask me why I lift
69 Post contains images OHLHD : Funnywise not all of them feel really like that. It is a problem of cultures here ( not race ) that makes it easy or hard for agents on the frontline
70 BOACVC10 : Note: we spent about 1.5 hours in front of that check-in line, many passengers were asked to have their baggage weighed and we just happened to be ea
71 OHLHD : I do not find it as a racist comment rather I think that he is a bit too generalizing but I can assume that he is speaking out of experience. I do ho
72 Soups : i Agree with Fbgdavidson. having lived in Africa for most of my life, the majority of items are IMPORTED from abroad, so whatever u find in Africa ar
73 BOACVC10 : The ticket on BA was on the "2PC" System, as per the flight coupon, IAD/LHR/DAC RT. Regardless, that "PC" has maximum dimensions and as per the check
74 Soups : Here where the small prints come in handy Come on... since when did 2PCS= 2 unlimited bags i am NOT defending him... thats just the PLAIN truth...
75 OHLHD : I give another example about weight limitations: Until 2002 ( or 2003) you could take PC into South America from EU aswell but from one to another day
76 Post contains links Feroze : I have glanced through the replies. BAA (which owns and operates Heathrow) rules state that no item of hold luggage may weigh over 32kg in any circum
77 Trekster : No point saying that He is not listening
78 Post contains links LHR777 : I'll make it very simple for you - the limit to AND FROM the USA is currently 2 pieces per passenger, at a MAXIMUM weight of 32KG each. Note: (repeat
79 Post contains images Fbgdavidson : Do I detect sense of humour failure? Banning me? For the love of God what are you talking about??? Of all the airports I've flown to on BA on a numbe
80 Post contains images Feroze : He actually says "business purposes" FWIW, I don't find your comments racist in the slightest. Overweight luggage is a fact of life on flights to/fro
81 AJMIA : Every single bag must be weighed when it is checked in. You said in your original post that your bags were weighed at a pre-checkin area for suspicio
82 DZ09 : There used to be a time when airlines were flexible and flying was an enjoyable experience. With increased competition, greedy CEOs, higher fuel and o
83 Mir : I don't have a problem with 23kgs (that's what it's been in the US for a while, and I've only been over the limit on one occasion), but to only allow
84 Manny : Here's the OP elaboration of what really happened. I am sure your bags were not weighed at a separate counter. I find this an incovenient procedure f
85 OHLHD : First of all, if you buy a ticket regardless of which culture and economic background you do not buy the airline. You simple pay for a seat. The one
86 Bongodog1964 : IMO "Racist" would be imposing a rule on a person because of their colour or nationality which was different to those imposed on any other person. Ins
87 Post contains images OHLHD : I spent 2 hours watching different airlines and their passengers today! I will give you a summary later since I wanna leave the airport now!!! No cult
88 AnnInFL : Could this have to do with new cargo contracts? The airlines make more money on cargo than they do on passengers.
89 LHR777 : No.
90 Post contains images OHLHD : OK here we go: First was AZ: not a lot to see, since MXP flight was cancelled. Only one Italien guy going nuts at the Ticket Counter. A little later a
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