Ncfc99 From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 741 posts, RR: 0 Posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1698 times:
Does any one have any advice for flying with infants?
I am travelling from the Uk to Australia in about 10 weeks and it will be the first time on a plane for my 18 month old son. My wife and I are quite concerned about how he will behave and respond to the flight. I am also unsure as to weather I will get a bulkhead seat with a skycot as it is a long flight to have him on our laps. We are flying on Virgin so any specific help regarding what they offer would be great.
Yellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6220 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1674 times:
I remember flying with my parents and my (then 18 month old) brother on the old BOAC to Sierra Leone for LHR.....my brother was having a hard time wit the length of the journey and so the stewardess put some brandy in his bottle.......eeeeeessssshhhhhhh...but I must say, it out him to sleep
When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
VonRichtofen From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 4629 posts, RR: 36
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1635 times:
A tip from a ramprat: If you own a smaller, foldable stroller (not sure what you call them in the UK, trolley? Pram?) use it. The big strollers with the huge wheels have trouble fitting in the cargo hold and often get caught in equiptment and can be damaged very easily.
AndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1632 times:
There are some kids who travel better than others, I guess you get to find out how yours will do.
The better suggestion is to have plenty of little toys. Usually a car seat can be used for the little tike to sleep better during the journey. Other kids love the fact that they are flying and might try to silently look out the window.
If you can, get a portable DVD player and take several movies with you. Walk around the airplane as much as you can.
EMAlad From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 450 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1603 times:
We took our daughter on a flight to Barcelona last year when she was 11 months old. We flew with EZY who were brilliant!!!!
Take a bottle just incase they wake up in flight. The best thing that I can offer is Mediced! Give it 1 hour before the flight and they 'should' be out like a light! Lol. Leah fell asleep just as we were waiting to board and woke up after we had landed lol.
I have flown MH to Oz before and there were several babies onboard. They got a bulkhead seat and a skycot. Hope Virgin are the same!
Quoting BoomBoom (Reply 3): Some have been known to use dramamine to knock the little nippers out...
Quoting EMAlad (Reply 6): The best thing that I can offer is Mediced!
I have flown many a flight with screeming babbies and carry earplugs just for that reason. But don't give you baby medication intended for adults. There is a reason there is an age limit on the lable. If you want to give your baby a sedative ASK A DOCTOR.
EMAlad From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 450 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1577 times:
Why shouldn't be able to take our infants on a plane? Isn't that an infringment of our civil rights as parent? Aren't we allowed to go on a holiday? Do you just want us to stay in this country and be denied air travel?
I for one get rather fed up with people like you! We had one on our flight back from Barcelona because there were 4 babies on the plane. He didn't check in early enough and was one of the last on the plane. He moaned and moaned to his mate that babies shouldn't be allowed to fly! To prove him wrong, not one of the babies cried for the whole of the flight.
CV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1577 times:
I flew with my wife and younger daughter last October from LIS to FAT via AMS, IAD and LAX. Our girl was a bit older than your infant ( 23 months old...) but she behaved really well, one thing we tried was to keep her sleep schedule has much has normal, if you are travelling to Australia it's going to be like 8/9/10 hours ahead, we found that in our trip ( and because it was the oposite way, 8 hours behind ) keeping our girl having her portuguese schedule sleep time really helped us great. First flight from LIS to AMS was OK, no problem, then from AMS to IAD she actually slept almost all the trip, around 7 hours, so that kept her well rested. Then when we arrived to FAT she quickly got California schedule and all went well. On the way back it worked fine too, this time we did FAT, LAX, PHL and LIS, she did really well all over until we crossed USA, then when we arrived at PHL she started to sleep and she did that almost until we arrived to LIS. I don't know about your baby, but normally airlines like Virgin will have good stuff for kids, they will play a bit, the food will be ok, maybe you should check out if your are allowed to bring your kid favourite food too, sometimes they don't accept too well airlines food so any special things he likes it's always good, plenty of water, and pay atention to some passengers.....there are some really "pain in the ass" people travelling!!! In our first flight from LIS to AMS a lady just before we took-off "advised" my wife to control my kid....of course I didn't liked that and I said that she was a baby and if she was not happy flying Economy Class then she should move or get "upgraded" to Business!!! You can find really very, very stupid people around that maybe never had babies before or they forgot that!!! But simply you and your wife stress your points, of course you'll do your best to keep the flight calm for the rest of the people but please don't get overhelmed if you baby have some problems!!!
Regards and a great trip to Australia!
BoomBoom From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1541 times:
Medicating kids for flights
Interesting read on the phenomenon of parents giving their children a dose of medication to help them sleep while travelling, especially by air when their child's unhappiness might affect other travellers.
The article cites a poll at Babycenter.com about the issue. 33% of 3,657 parents said they would never sedate their child for a plane flight and 24% said they've never needed to. 18% of parents said they have and would do it again and another 20% said they've considered doing so.
The article claims the issue is more about different parenting phiilosphies than it is about actual safety concerns. The American Academy of Pediatrics doesn't have a position on the topic. One expert, Richard Gorman, past chairman of the American Academy of Pediatrics' National Committee on Drugs, says, "If you asked 100 pediatricians, you'd get 20 strongly in favor, 60 who didn't think about it much, and 20 strongly opposed."
GeorgiaAME From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 985 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1501 times:
Food, food, and more food. Lots of diapers. Change of clothing. A couple of soft toys, and keep him warm. Cabins are cold places, and little ones chill even faster than adults. PLEASE don't drug the kid without asking the pediatrician first!!! My now 22 yo first flew international to Denmark at age 18 months. (He had lots of domestic experience) The child was a delight to fly with, but became wired the moment the cabin doors closed. No crying, he just wanted to play. He wouldn't go near the SAS bassinet and would have nothing to do with the sleeping bag the crew provided. And he loved airline food from the start. At one point, one of the flight attendants hijacked him into the galley and fed him salad. He loved it, and the attention. Best part was our return flight from NYC to Atlanta. We were numb, and the food on the now defunct Air Atlanta was superb. Alan devoured 3 sets of lamb chops, and as we were dozing, he found our wine. It was served in a real glass, and this child never liked plastic sippy cups. We had to reprimand him for drinking white wine with his meat, but he didn't seem to care. (I know, we were very abusive parents)
Each kid is different, but by now you should know what bothers him, and what he likes. Feed him, hold him, keep him clean, and enjoy the experience. But please, don't fly First or Business, no matter how sweet the guy is.
"Trust, but verify!" An old Russian proverb, quoted often by a modern American hero
You were a perfect child traveller, I assume? Caused no aggravation?
Ncfc99, having travelled with my daughter when she was much the same age as your little one, my advice would be similar to that which others have given: plenty of bottles or sippy cups, change of diapers and clothing and a tough hide to ignore people who forget what it's like to be a kid. I'd also add some story books to your bag.
'Somebody tell me why I'm on my own if there's a soulmate for everyone' :Natasha Bedingfield
Cusaeng From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1472 times:
Quoting EMAlad (Reply 8): And by the way, Mediced is intended for infants!
i was going to sugest putting the babdy down as checked baggage or even cargo
best thing to do is to ring vs and ask them if they can confirm you a bulkhead seat with a skycot. those seats usualy fill up quite quickly and with a bit of luck they may still be some free seats. even if they confirm one be prepaired to spend the flight with the little tyke on your knee as airlines can and do change your seating witout telling you ....
Vtdl From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1422 times:
We have flown with our kids when they were 13 and 14 months. But those were to HNL on 6 hours flights.
Here is one trick that my wife used that worked pretty well. She would wrap and bring along new toys. Let me emphasize: new toys that you think your kids will like but never played with before. So, when the kid gets restless, you give him one and he might enjoy it for an hour or two. Make it interesting and wrap it like a little present. Since this is a long flight, bring 3, 4, 5 along if necessary, and resupply on your way back. Do you best to stretch them out as far as you can of course.
The second trick that some people suggested, but we've never used, was to bring along cough medication to put them asleep. We never had to use that, but please check with your doctor first.
J-bird From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 109 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1406 times:
I can help you with this, at least if only to put your mind at rest. We have travelled with my son, now 19 months, several times. The first time he flew was at 3 month, when we went from London to New York, via Toronto. We were in business class and he zonked out in a bassinet and got plenty of quiet sleep. The second time was at 12 months, when we flew New York to Tokyo direct, a 15 hour flight. He howled for 10 minutes at the beginning of the flight, a combination of excitement and anger at being strapped into his car seat (and I felt daggers on my neck then from other passengers), but subsequently slept for 3 hours straight. For the next 12 hours he played with those passengers and crew who were willing, went for lots of walks with us, and napped from time-to-time, with not a howl or cry. The third time was New York to Vancouver just this past Christmas, this time on my lap. He slept from before we left the gate at JFK to pulling up to the gate in Vancouver, and on the way home only got a little fussy when we had to strap in to takeoff. The gist of the sensible comments above are that each baby is different, but take lots of toys (we often buy small, new, cheap toys - quiet ones - before the flight and introduce them during the flight in steps to keep him interested), books, all the change/food paraphenalia you need. Certainly for such a long flight you should be able to get a bassinet seat (although they're usually only good to about 25 or 30 pounds I think). Be prepared to walk around a lot, look out the windows and spend some time in the galleys when they're awake and it's quiet. We've always had good experiences with crew, even having ANA flight attendants help change him, and play with him well we ate (and that in economy)... Don't worry, it will be fine. Ignore the ignorant folk who think life should be on hold just because one has an infant. Good luck!