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How Long Does It Take For A Crash To Get Cleaned?  
User currently offlineTZ757300 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2867 posts, RR: 6
Posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3736 times:

I was recently driving past DOV and saw the crash site of the C-5 that crashed there months ago, but I saw that the only thing that has been taken is the cockpit area of the fuselage only. The tail section and 85% of the fuselage remain there still.

So usually how long does it take to get rid of a aircraft that huge? I know 747's are comparable and size and they seem to get taken care of kind of swiftly. Plus, I know the farm where the C-5 is on isn't to happy about taking its land for the season.


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User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3706 times:

Well in the case of the West Coast Airlines DC-9-15 that crashed on a flight from EUG to PDX in the 1960s, much, if not all of the debris is still there, in a remote forest about 40 miles SE of PDX.
Only way in is by helicopter.

The aircraft had been in service with the airline for not even two weeks, and it was the first and only DC-9 in the fleet. West Coast had to wait some time for their second DC-9 to be delivered.



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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13039 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3612 times:

Of course, it can vary depending on the size of the a/c, the location of the crash, the severity of the crash, numbers killed and the progress of the investigation. Those on or very close to an active runway or taxiway will have to be cleared quite quickly or it will interfere with operations. Priority will have to given to any investigation process to make sure it is done right.
From my observations for a land crash, for airliners where access is available, it will probably take several weeks to remove most debris, with major pieces removed in a matter of days. For small a/c that are accessable, it might take just a few days to a week to remove the a/c. In any case, the crash area may not be fully 'cleared' of debris from the a/c for a couple of more weeks or even months to make sure get all of it to properly conduct an investigation.


User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7402 posts, RR: 57
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3578 times:

Quoting TZ757300 (Thread starter):
How Long Does It Take For A Crash To Get Cleaned?

It depends ...


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This TU104 crashed landing in Cyprus some 34 years ago (1973)and debris are still there .


User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3097 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3516 times:

I remember a JL DC-8 landed at Juhu airport (which has a very short runway) mistaking it for the nearby BOM airport, way back in 1972 or thereabouts, when I was small....the aircraft was lying at the end of the runway, where it ended up in a ditch, for almost 4-6 months, before it was dismantled......

User currently offlineOlympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3459 times:

I drove along the YYZ service road running past the spot where AF358 came to rest, about a month after the A340 over-ran runway 24L. There was not a sign of any kind that anything had happened there. Not a bit of wreckage; fences had been repaired - even the ruts made by the landing gear had disappeared.

User currently offlineJetset25j From New Zealand, joined Feb 2006, 156 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3378 times:

Is the airline who's aircraft crashed ever charged for clean up by local authorities? (Who's responsibility is the clean up esp if it happens outside of an airport, and if it does happen at the airport- does the airport charge the airline?)
Is there even a responsibility as such to clean it up if it happens say in a meadow out of the way?



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User currently offlineTZ757300 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2867 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3330 times:

Quoting Jetset25j (Reply 6):
Is the airline who's aircraft crashed ever charged for clean up by local authorities? (Who's responsibility is the clean up esp if it happens outside of an airport, and if it does happen at the airport- does the airport charge the airline?)
Is there even a responsibility as such to clean it up if it happens say in a meadow out of the way?

Well I would think the USAF would get rid of it since the farm where it landed has been basically unusable since it happened. They know the cause of the crash and there hasn't been activity with the site for a pretty long while. If the USAF isn't paying for it since it's out of their land, I'm sure the state will never pay for it since they weren't at fault for it to happen.



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User currently offlineRdwelch From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3326 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 3):
This TU104 crashed landing in Cyprus some 34 years ago (1973)and debris are still there .

That sight should give the pax flying through there the warm fuzzies...not.

Gus


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24858 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3289 times:

And the wreckage from many aircraft that have struck mountains or other inaccessible areas is still where it came to rest.

I recall a GVA newspaper article a year or two ago re a restaurant on the lower slopes of Mont Blanc, the highest mountain (just under 16,000 ft.) in the Alps and western Europe, on the France/Italy border about 50 miles from GVA. The restaurant has several pieces of wreckage from the Air-India L749 Constellation that crashed into the mountain near the top on November 3,1950 while descending to GVA. All 48 aboard fatal. The article had photos of a few pieces of wreckage, including a main landing gear wheel/tire, that have gradually worked their way through a glacier over the years and sometimes appear at the other end near the village where this restaurant is located as the snow/ice melts.

In a strange coincidence, 16 years later, January 24,1966, another Air-India flight descending to GVA, this time a 707-420 (Rolls-Royce Conway engines), crashed into Mont Blanc in almost exactly the same place as the Constellation, with all 117 aboard fatal.

[Edited 2007-01-16 01:02:20]

User currently offlineSimProgrammer From France, joined Aug 2004, 192 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3185 times:

Kenyon IES, a company with an office in Bracknell England are sometimes called by the airline to clean up the mess. They have a 24-hour go-team on standby.

They work for the airline as its their responsibilty to clean up after the authorities have finished with it.

A job can be accomplished within days of being called. Others can take months as the wreckage may need to be wireframed locally for further investigation.



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User currently offlineBOAC707 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 278 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3075 times:

In 1988 I investigated a small plane crash in the BC mountains about 2 hours north of Hope. The wreckage had gone undiscovered for 7 years. Once the on site investigation was completed, the wreckage was tagged as already reported and left there. All that was removed was the remains of the the three occupants, no wreckage clean up at all.


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User currently offlineDeC From Greece, joined Aug 2005, 616 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3022 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 3):
This TU104 crashed landing in Cyprus some 34 years ago (1973)and debris are still there .

Only Turkey invaded Cyprus in 1974 and the airport is closed since then.



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User currently offlineTZ757300 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2867 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2880 times:

Update: The C-5 has been officially cleared for removal. The news tonight said it should be all gone by next Wednesday. All the metal will be sold for scrap. Took it 10 1/2 months, but its finally happening.


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