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As Seen From The Tail Camera!  
User currently offlineMattnrsa From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 393 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 14517 times:

Thought you all might be interested in what takeoffs and landings look like through a tail camera. Definitely the best part of the South African flight IAD-DKR-JNB and back was the tail-mounted camera giving you a very unique perspective on the flight. The video doesn't do the picture quality of the video screens justice, but the screens gave a very clear image.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkgW9l1JFsY



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxwGysbm7cA




More of the videos can be seen at www.youtube.com. Just search mattnrsa or tail camera for more of them.

[Edited 2007-01-15 09:05:26]

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User currently offlineMemphis From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 14450 times:

hey man, that's pretty cool!  Smile


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User currently offlineThePalauan From Guam, joined Oct 2006, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 14448 times:

Great videos! Puts landing and taking off into a whole new perspective!! Wish all airliners had this feature.


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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 35
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 14445 times:

Pretty neat! They had a camera by the nose gear on my DE B767 flight from FRA-YVR last July. Kind of frustrating, because I didn't know if I should watch the video monitor or look outside the window ...  Silly

These types of camera's certainly do give different and most interesting perspectives for the traveller.



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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9376 posts, RR: 29
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 14415 times:

..........and switch off all electronic equipment (during take off and landing) until the fasten seat belt signs are switched off / we have reached our final parking position..................


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User currently offlineLeonB1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 14223 times:

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 4):
..........and switch off all electronic equipment (during take off and landing) until the fasten seat belt signs are switched off / we have reached our final parking position..................

It seems these rules don't apply to a.net members!


User currently offlineBFS From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 739 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 13820 times:

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 4):
..........and switch off all electronic equipment (during take off and landing) until the fasten seat belt signs are switched off / we have reached our final parking position..................

I was thinking exactly the same thing! I love the way the some members are society are above the rules!


User currently offlineMattnrsa From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 393 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 13730 times:

Quoting LeonB1985 (Reply 5):
It seems these rules don't apply to a.net members!

Yes, and we should try to get an official exemption for photographers like Sam Chui! Some of the best photos on this site are from airplane windows! While my videos certainly don't rank up there in terms of quality, some were taken while sitting across from flight attendants in their jumpseats!

[Edited 2007-01-15 19:12:52]

User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3387 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 13676 times:

SAS has a nose-cam on their 330, 340 and 321 which is a great feature, and they use it all they way untill the aircraft is parked at gate

Don't know about any other than SAS and SAA that has these features though


User currently offlineS12PPL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 13668 times:

That's awesome! I hope Boeing puts those cameras on the 787's, and new 748's! I've always thought Airbus did a cool thing when they allowed those cameras to be available for the pax to view, should the flight crew turn them on. Very cool indeed!

User currently offlineFrancoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 3761 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 13599 times:

IB also has those on their 346s, it's pretty neat.

CX has them on the 346s too, but they use a belly mounted cam that's ahead of the Main gear, unfortunately, at least on the flights I took, they turned it off during the landing and T/O... But you could see the taxi and parking at the gate. It was fun.



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User currently offlineLHStarAlliance From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 13550 times:

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 3):
Kind of frustrating, because I didn't know if I should watch the video monitor or look outside the window ...

I´ld have the same problem , it´s really frustrating ...  banghead 


User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 13497 times:

Oh wow cool stuff Big grin


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User currently offlineKaitak744 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2377 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 13409 times:

Does BA have cameras on its 777s?

User currently offlineLeonB1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 13221 times:

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 13):
Does BA have cameras on its 777s?

Nope, they don't unfortunately.


User currently offlineA320ajm From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 546 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 13182 times:

Can you imagine the panic if all the pax were watching a tail cam of their flight and something went wrong, like tyre burst or engine fire and they could see sparks or smoke!!


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User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 13177 times:

I really love flying the A340-600 with Iberia because the tail-camera is such an awesome feature! The only bad thing is that since it is on the over head LCDs it is not available for the entire flight or for your closer viewing.

I recently flew on an Air France 777-300ER which I believe had a nose camera but it was really out of focus so it wasn't that great to watch.



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User currently offlineFlyUSCG From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 656 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 12794 times:

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 4):



Quoting LeonB1985 (Reply 5):



Quoting BFS (Reply 6):

Obviously you guys DON'T pay attention to the announcement. It says "turn off all PERSONAL electronic...". The aircraft is shielded against electronics that it was built with. In addition, even IF it was a problem, the cabin crew would turn off all IFE during required periods. So sorry to say guys, you got up on your high horses only to be wrong.



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User currently offlineDeC From Greece, joined Aug 2005, 616 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 12720 times:

Quoting BFS (Reply 6):
Quoting PanHAM (Reply 4):
..........and switch off all electronic equipment (during take off and landing) until the fasten seat belt signs are switched off / we have reached our final parking position..................

I was thinking exactly the same thing! I love the way the some members are society are above the rules!

Yeah, you never know when the mean camera will bring the plane down now, do you?....  Yeah sure



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User currently offlineJpax From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1018 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 12616 times:

Quoting FlyUSCG (Reply 17):
It says "turn off all PERSONAL electronic...". The aircraft is shielded against electronics that it was built with. In addition, even IF it was a problem, the cabin crew would turn off all IFE during required periods. So sorry to say guys, you got up on your high horses only to be wrong.

Same can be said to you. Anyone who watched the video can blatantly tell that this video is taken from a PERSONAL electronic device, and is not the direct image from the monitor.

You can dismount your horse, now.  Wink


User currently offlineYellowstone From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3071 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 12555 times:

Quoting FlyUSCG (Reply 17):
Obviously you guys DON'T pay attention to the announcement. It says "turn off all PERSONAL electronic...". The aircraft is shielded against electronics that it was built with. In addition, even IF it was a problem, the cabin crew would turn off all IFE during required periods. So sorry to say guys, you got up on your high horses only to be wrong.

I think they are talking about the fact that the guy was using a video camera.



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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 12558 times:

Quoting FlyUSCG (Reply 17):
Obviously you guys DON'T pay attention to the announcement. It says "turn off all PERSONAL electronic...". The aircraft is shielded against electronics that it was built with. In addition, even IF it was a problem, the cabin crew would turn off all IFE during required periods. So sorry to say guys, you got up on your high horses only to be wrong.

They were refering to the fact that he was using a digital camera to take a video during takeoff and landing, not refering to the fact that he was watching the IFE. I'll be honest though and say I would do the same thing. I usually take videos of takeoff and landing out the window anyway. Neat to see it from a different perspective.

[Edited 2007-01-15 21:30:21]

User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3352 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 12555 times:

Everytime I flew on a TG A340-500, none of the cams worked and they were always off in the IFE menu. It was a bit frustrating especially when I had to be in the middle of the plane with all shades down for 18 hours


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User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3387 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 12378 times:

Quoting FlyUSCG (Reply 17):
Obviously you guys DON'T pay attention to the announcement. It says "turn off all PERSONAL electronic...". The aircraft is shielded against electronics that it was built with. In addition, even IF it was a problem, the cabin crew would turn off all IFE during required periods. So sorry to say guys, you got up on your high horses only to be wrong.

Well using that argument should you also turn of you wrist watch.....


User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9376 posts, RR: 29
Reply 24, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 12378 times:

Quoting DeC (Reply 18):
Yeah, you never know when the mean camera will bring the plane down now, do you?.

No, I don't. I am not an electronics expert which means I can't tell if they are right or not. All i know is that electronic equipment must be switched off during take off and landing. Could be the guy used a hand crank camera.

.

Quoting FlyUSCG (Reply 17):
t says "turn off all PERSONAL electronic...". The

of course it is PERSONAL electronic equipment. Have you ever been alllowed to the flight deck during take off or landing and switch off THEIR electronic equipment?



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25 Post contains images KFLLCFII : Hence why they turned off the live satellite tv coverage on the jetBlue flight that had the crooked nosegear
26 FlyUSCG : Well shit, then my bad and I apologize. It is still annoying however to see how quickly some people jump down others throat everytime they see someon
27 DeC : I travel 6 times per year as i am student who lives abroad and almost in every flight there will be someone (at least) taking pictures or having his
28 Awschucksflyer : Will Air Canada have this feature?
29 Post contains links and images DeC : This one http://youtube.com/watch?v=2HOyfFC6uOc
30 Post contains images FlyDeltaJets87 : " target=_blank>http://youtube.com/watch?v=2HOyfFC6uOc I'm more worried about the plane's own electronics causing a crash
31 Post contains images VonRichtofen : Funny how people get upset over somebody using a camcorder sitting in Y but nobody says boo about film crews sitting right in the cockpit with much hi
32 ACDC8 : It's an airline option, it doesn't have anything to do with the aircraft being a Boeing or Airbus. Many Boeing's have this feature as well, such as B
33 Jimbobjoe : That's interesting, I can't say I've heard that. Nevertheless, that crash happened so flipping fast that I'd be surprised if the panic were any diffe
34 Kaneporta1 : That is one quiet plane, that's all I have to say.
35 Post contains links DeC : http://www.airdisaster.com/special/special-aa191.shtml In the cockpit and cabin, the takeoff roll seemed totally normal. The view from the cockpit wa
36 MD80fanatic : When they say "personal electronic devices", they mean devices that can transmit and recieve signals. Should people turn off their pacemakers and hear
37 ESGG : The most interesting with this clip is it clearly shows how much the tail is moving. The ac´s structure is very flexible and not as rigid as one coul
38 FlyDeltaJets87 : Huh? I think it's more related to the shaking of the digital camera that is being used to take the video, ie, the person holding it, not the tail mov
39 Post contains images BFS : I'm not on my high horse. I'm cabin crew and it just bugs me somewhat when passengers choose to ignore basic instructions. I was landing into AMS las
40 Isitsafenow : If the rules would have been adhered to, we would have never seen those unusual but good videos. Every now and then you gotta say what the hey!! Than
41 Post contains images DC10sRULE : That was an awesome video - now if UA could combine live ATC on the headset with a forward video view - that would be magic!!! As far as the other iss
42 Lostturttle : Some more reasons are not all portable electronic devices are the same and their is no way to approve one over another, thus the rule "turn them all
43 B707Stu : When I flew IB 346 on 12/20 from JFK-MAD (IB6253) the late flight take-off was spectacular on the screen. I wish all aircraft had the tail camera and
44 ORDRyan28 : Great video! I wonder what the takeoff would look like if you were on the tail (instead of the camera). Any volunteers?! -Ryan
45 Vasu : So, what airlines out there offer the service? Excellent videos!
46 Post contains links and images PipoA380 : I guess the simley's here for something, but AF296 did not crash because of a plane malfunction, but because of flight crew error: "Failure of the Ca
47 Post contains images Leezyjet : It isn't because non transmitting electronics intefere witht the electronics, it is because the camera's and other electronic devices could become pr
48 Post contains links YHMYYZspotter : Interesting that as soon as the gear is raised you can hear the cabin chime. And there is another post going on right now about that same topic. A Sin
49 Post contains links AlitaliaMD11 : Quoting PipoA380 (Reply 46): I was checking on the South African website, and I couldn't find that flight. Do they fly that route? I can only find JFK
50 Airplanenut : A few years ago, a Boeing engineer who worked on the 737 told me the biggest danger these personal electronic devices pose is that if turbulence is hi
51 D L X : IIRC, AA179 had a nose camera, and many passengers were probably watching the video of the ground approaching them. I can only imagine just how horri
52 BFS : I don't doubt that for a single second, but at the end of the day, passengers are asked not to do it by those who have a responsibility to ensure the
53 Senorcarnival : IIRC the announcement made, at least last time I flew which was FLL-IAH-SAT about a month ago, was that any device with an on/off switch, including th
54 Pygmalion : The 777-300 has ground manuvering cameras in the leading edges of the horizontal tail and one looking at the nose gear from under the fuselage. They a
55 YULWinterSkies : Ugh... never seen any of those working... The only live camera I ever had is onboard an LX A340 for take-off -front camera-. Cool indeed. Available t
56 AA777223 : I don't believe AA has this feature on their DC-10s, or any of their aircraft for that matter. I'm sorry, but I don't think that is an accurate state
57 D L X : I'm sorry, I got the flight number wrong. I'm talking about the 1979 crash in Chicago. I think it was AA191.
58 PennStation : Many (most?/all?) AA DC10's had a camera mounted behind glass at the back of the cockpit. This was shown on the big movie screens on the bulkheads. M
59 Post contains images AirEMS : What if it's COMMUNAL electronics? hehehehehe -Carl
60 AA777223 : My apologies then, fellas. I guess all of my DC-10 experience was post-camera deactivation. I flew on several of the old tri-holers, even got to visi
61 D L X : Never a problem.
62 Nbseer : Flew on ANA 744 JFK-NRT in March 2005, had nose-cam activated for both takeoff and landing. It was great watching the lineup for landing at NRT while
63 Jetdeltamsy : And which seat do you think the anetter was sitting in? It's mounted on the tail the and placed there by the manufacturer.
64 ADiZzy : Thats HOTT! I loved the videos! To bad i could not mount myself to that tail for such a killer view!
65 D L X : What is? The handycam?
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