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User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4036 posts, RR: 8
Posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 9006 times:
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Can anyone inform me what the salary payscale is at US Air.......particularly a grade 26 or 27......thanks.


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User currently offlineSunking737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2057 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 8958 times:

All the pay scales stink right now, does not matter which union.

They will until the company signs new contracts with them all.

We all want a transition agreement.

We employees should block any attempt being made by HP/US to buy Delta, until all transition agreements with all unions are signed.



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User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6517 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 8771 times:

Quoting Sunking737 (Reply 1):
We employees should block any attempt being made by HP/US to buy Delta, until all transition agreements with all unions are signed.

Is anything being done by the employees to accomplish this?


User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4036 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 8723 times:
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okay..................can you give any info as to what the original question is??


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User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4103 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 8640 times:

Quoting Bobnwa (Reply 2):
Is anything being done by the employees to accomplish this?

Our union, the IAM, couldn't care less, as long as they can make money off our union dues. We'd be better off without a union like DL, and a lot of people here are openly talking about merging with DL and voting out the IAM with the huge number of new employees. I don't even know what my own pay scale looks like anymore, much less anybody else's. I just got a raise on Saturday, and I don't even know how much it was, and won't until my next paycheck.


User currently offlineFokker Lover From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 8582 times:

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 4):
We'd be better off without a union like DL, and a lot of people here are openly talking about merging with DL and voting out the IAM with the huge number of new employees.

Many years ago when you were still riding a tricycle, the US rampers were thinking the same thing. Times were good, the company was good, the union sucked.(Teamsters)

They too thought that they were better off without a union. The got rid of the union and waited to get what they really deserved. They didn't have to wait long. Split shifts, loss of seniority, loss of full time status, costs of benefits were raised, and many other things. Everything turned to shit, and they were treated as the second class citizens that the company always thought they were. They couldn't wait to get a union back. Any union.

What makes you think it would be any better this time?
The times suck, the company sucks, and the union still sucks. For some reason though, you feel that you are better off with NO protection than with the little bit that you do actually have.

If you would have run that belt loader into an engine without a union, you would have been taking that picture from outside of the fence.

Be careful of what you wish for. You may just get it.


User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6517 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 8564 times:

Quoting Fokker Lover (Reply 5):
If you would have run that belt loader into an engine without a union, you would have been taking that picture from outside of the fence.

Should someone who runs a belt loader into any engine be protected by a union if he was negligent or goofing off?


User currently offlineFokker Lover From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 8536 times:

Quoting Bobnwa (Reply 6):
Should someone who runs a belt loader into any engine be protected by a union if he was negligent or goofing off?

The ramp is a busy place. Even the best employee can have an accident.
Without a union our company would have fired him on the spot. He would not have even been given a chance to explain the circumstances.

I have 18 years with this company. I have seen them do many ruthless things.
It's true that the union must protect the bad eggs too, but that is a small price to pay for all of the good eggs that were protected by a union contract. This is coming from a hard core Republican business owner.


User currently offlineLono From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1336 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 8422 times:

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 4):
We'd be better off without a union like DL,

Yeah sure just ask all the EX DL rampers and cargo employees who are out of a job....They had a chance to vote in a union in but they trusted DL and that trust put them out of a job.... sad that we seem to forget the many people who are no longer part of the "family".....



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User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4036 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8339 times:
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good thing all those CO rampers have a union to keep their job.......oh wait, they still have all their jobs w/o a Union!!

also, most companies aren't going to fire you on the spot if you have an accident with an airplane.....certain senarios play out, based on your history of accidents.........



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User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 8217 times:

26 = 28,000 27 = 30,000


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User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 8212 times:

Quoting Fokker Lover (Reply 7):
Without a union our company would have fired him on the spot. He would not have even been given a chance to explain the circumstances.

Piedmont Ramp is Non-Union and someone did a 3 point hook up and he yanked the airstart nozzle out of the CRJ, and the result was he was not terminated, he just took a drug test and returned to work.. Why? cause he at least notified a Supervisor. lol

I found that hilarious.



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User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4036 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 8199 times:
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can someone just please answer the question of the thread??

this thread has nothing to do with unions



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User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 8199 times:

Quoting Malaysia (Reply 10):
26 = 28,000 27 = 30,000

The catch is which you get, SALARY GRADE 26/27 or HOURLY 26/27

26 and 27 are in the Non-Union Category, usually a Shift Manager level, and thats a salary position. You get holidays off, but no overtime at all.

Here is a depressing example at US. a PHX accountant in Revenue Accounting and Receivables starts at grade 23 and thats 24,000 per year. The average work day for the revenue accounting department is 9-10 hours due to excess job duties. Comp time is usually the only thing you may get if approved.

24,000 for an Accountant.... HAHA thats cause its an AIRLINE, not a private company. The most embarrassing thing I have heard was trying to find a CPA willing to work that salary. Big grin



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User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 8191 times:

Quoting CALMSP (Reply 12):
can someone just please answer the question of the thread??

this thread has nothing to do with unions

Unless the currently changed or updated it, it was last

26 = 28,000
27 = 30,000



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User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 8186 times:

Salary review is every August for non-union jobs, you may get a raise based on your performance, the company situation, or no raise at all if the company isnt doing well.


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User currently offlineNecigrad From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 183 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 8009 times:

As a Team Lead I'm grade 21 (oe maybe 22?) At 8 1/2 years I'm making $12.68/hour. I'll go up to $16.87/hour assuming the IAM transition agreement doesn't change pay. A grade 26 is probably at least Shift Manager/Supervisor.

User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4036 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 7999 times:
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wow...........that sure is crap for a 27..........i was browsing through the jobs on the net adn saw Manger of Express Planning at a grade 27.


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User currently offlineHighliner2 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 696 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 7939 times:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions...general_aviation/read.main/3158718

Yeah...good thing those CO rampers don't have a union...worked out just great...



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User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7840 times:

Quoting Necigrad (Reply 16):
As a Team Lead I'm grade 21 (oe maybe 22?) At 8 1/2 years I'm making $12.68/hour. I'll go up to $16.87/hour assuming the IAM transition agreement doesn't change pay. A grade 26 is probably at least Shift Manager/Supervisor.

Too bad you will lose the Double Time soon for OT.



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User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7826 times:

Another Note, I am not familiar yet with the 1XX payscale rates. They are like some departmental difference in the main office. but they apply to some CLERK jobs, which would be a senior clerk at 22/23 and some other clerk would be 101 or 103 etc.

you can always try to negotiate a higher rate of compensation if you get an offer for that position.

US WEST is changing SUPERVISOR to SHIFT MANAGER. The titling is being changed.

current Customer Service Supervisors will be placed in the Agent payroll (leads) It will be AGENTS ===> LEADS ====> Shift Managers. ==> Department Head (Senior Manager) ====> Station Manager

Shift Manager will soon be the first non-union leadership position you reach, the rest will be union pay scales.



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User currently offlineNoBoeingNoGoin From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7728 times:

US Express Pay (for Piedmont Stations) is 8.25 start. The ten year top out is around 12.75.

User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7712 times:

Quoting NoBoeingNoGoin (Reply 21):
US Express Pay (for Piedmont Stations) is 8.25 start. The ten year top out is around 12.75.

What does EN have to do with this thread? EN does not participate in the PAY SCALE system. That is used only with Mainline US. and WEST AND EAST have different numbers still.

Its a 1 dollar differential for EN in BOS/LGA/DCA though, so that would be 9.25 in those cities for an agent.



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User currently offlineNecigrad From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 183 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 7574 times:

Quoting Malaysia (Reply 19):
Too bad you will lose the Double Time soon for OT.

Not really. I have to work 40 hours in my scheduled week (I work SUN-WED), then work Thurday and Friday at 1 1/2 to get 2X on Saturday. Under the IAM contract and payscale, my 1 1/2 will be similar to 2X on HPs payscale. Double time for every hour of OT basically  Smile


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