Doug From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 825 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1822 times:
With all the increases at MIA it is still 140,000 off in terms of take offs and landings from there 1998 high of 536,000 for the year.I applaud all that American does in Miami but that is still a huge void of flights to fill.Understanding that it was a different time and era (911,other carriers reducing their flights,fuel,FLL,etc) but most other major U.S airports have recovered and then some will MIA's numbers are nothing to celebrate about.If not for gate restraints and lack of enough aircraft AA could stand to add dozens of flights out of Miami with load factors to back it and I am sure the same goes for the other AA hubs.
BALAX From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 187 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1725 times:
Quoting Delta787 (Reply 3): I though he outlined his point very well in his post. If you had read it, you would have known what he meant when he said that.
That's the thing, I read it all but I couldn't understand where the sentences started or ended.
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31116 posts, RR: 74 Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1649 times:
Quoting Delta787 (Reply 3): I though he outlined his point very well in his post. If you had read it, you would have known what he meant when he said that.
I read it too, and I still don't understand how it is "nothing to celebrate about" just because there are less daily landings now. Times have changed. Back in 1998, American Eagle was running 5 daily Saab flights to Palm Beach, at least three flights a day to almost every landing strip in Florida, and hourly props to Tampa and Orlando. Nowadays, Palm Beach and small market intra-state flights are gone and all flights to Tampa and Orlando are operated with big jets and significantly more capacity. And the future will be very bright for American Airlines and American Eagle at MIA as terminal work progresses and when American Airlines and American Eagle begin recieving new planes again.
Delta787 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 321 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1636 times:
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 5): And the future will be very bright for American Airlines and American Eagle at MIA as terminal work progresses and when American Airlines and American Eagle begin recieving new planes again.
No doubt there. However, I will continue to use PBI and FLL and avoid driving down through that dump called Miami just to get to MIA.
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31116 posts, RR: 74 Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1633 times:
Quoting Delta787 (Reply 6): No doubt there. However, I will continue to use PBI and FLL and avoid driving down through that dump called Miami just to get to MIA.
Awesome. And I and others will continue to use MIA while you avoid it so that I don't have to venture in the suburban wastelands of Broward and Palm Beach.
AA767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2271 posts, RR: 25 Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1584 times:
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 7): Awesome. And I and others will continue to use MIA while you avoid it so that I don't have to venture in the suburban wastelands of Broward and Palm Beach.
Exactly. I guess that growing up in Miami and flying out of MIA all my life make me bias, But I find MIA not bad at all. I like all the great food options that most airports in the states don't have, and as soon as the new terminal is done things will be even better.
I think that the attitude towards MIA is do to most Americans feeling like they are different there. And that is something they are just not comfortable with.
Doug From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 825 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1557 times:
I have been one of the biggest cheerleaders for AA and their continued growth at MIA.But when you ask what planet I am on read and fully understand what I wrote.AA carried 19 million last year I say they can easily do 23 million.I am just pointing out the very steep delcline MIA took after 911 and that while AA has expanded overall their are a few more lulls in activity at MIA than years past even with AA dominating.Also if AA continues to transfer more mainline to Eagle such as CLT.IND,IAD,and PIT naturally American Eagle will post record numbers.
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31116 posts, RR: 74 Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1514 times:
Quoting Doug (Reply 9): AA carried 19 million last year I say they can easily do 23 million.
Yes, they can, if they had the equipment. They don't, not right now.
Quoting Doug (Reply 9): Also if AA continues to transfer more mainline to Eagle such as CLT.IND,IAD,and PIT naturally American Eagle will post record numbers.
You act as if this has been a problem. It hasn't. Very little has been "transfered" from mainline, and there is no sign that more stuff will. You named the only four examples, and in each case:
Charlotte - One daily S80 became 4 daily ERJs.
Indianapolis - One daily 738 became 2 daily ERJs.
Pittsburgh - launched as an Eagle route, even though it did see mainline for one flight
Washington Dulles - One daily mainline flight is now two daily year-round flights, on each on mainline and Eagle.
The use of Eagle on certain routes has more to do with lack of mainline aircraft. MIA-IND will probably be back to at least one 738 in the near future when equipment is available.
MIASkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1335 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1426 times:
Congrats to AA and my hometown of MIA! I just moved to the RDU area and sure is nice seeing the AA 738's fly by my house as I know they are coming in from MIA!
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