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MAXjet To Temporarily End STN-IAD  
User currently offlineLatinAviation From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1276 posts, RR: 15
Posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 6942 times:

Haven't seen this posted:
http://washingtontimes.com/business/20070112-111405-1731r.htm

Maxjet Airways announced yesterday it will temporarily suspend service from Washington Dulles International Airport to London beginning Tuesday.
The low-fare carrier, which operates four weekly flights from Dulles to London's Stansted Airport, said it will resume the service on May 24.


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User currently offlineRDUDDJI From Lesotho, joined Jun 2004, 1456 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 6872 times:

Interesting. I have a few old JI friends who fly for them, and they told me the IAD-STN flight has better loads than their other flights... ahh, who knows, maybe they're short an airframe?


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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17352 posts, RR: 46
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 6737 times:

Quoting LatinAviation (Thread starter):
it will temporarily suspend service

Uh huh....is this like when FL temporarily suspended MDW/EWR?



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User currently offlineMtnWest1979 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 2433 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6546 times:
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I have rarely ever seen 'temporary' suspensions that didn't end up being permanent.
Reminds me when the OAGs had the 'x' next to an airlines code whose service was 'temporarily suspended'.

[Edited 2007-01-16 20:56:51]


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User currently offlineAF022 From France, joined Dec 2003, 2149 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6365 times:

I would say this route is dead. If MaxJet can't make a business route work this time of year - when demand skews heavily to business - then the summer won't work either.

User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 6201 times:

They are also one of the worst companies to work for right now. People are jumping ship like rats off of a sinking ship. Even some of the upper management is leaving.


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User currently offlineSjc>sfo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 6149 times:

Does MaxJet use some kind of lounge in IAD? I was transiting Dulles on the 9th and the flight was delayed until 11:00 -- gate area was completely deserted save for 1 or 2 people - hopefully that wasn't the load for the night.

User currently offlineJetBlueAtJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 6043 times:

Quoting RDUDDJI (Reply 1):
ahh, who knows, maybe they're short an airframe?

I don't think thats it because on Sunday at JFK I saw a MAXjet plane in old white colors parked right by the JFK Expressway entrance from the Belt.

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User currently offlineReggaebird From Jamaica, joined Nov 1999, 1176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5879 times:

Rumor has it that MaxJet was planning to start BOS-STN service in the Summer or Fall. They were at Logan Airport checking out the territory a few months ago. Maybe this will allow them to start BOS sooner.

Reggaebird


User currently offlineCwldude From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 691 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5867 times:

This certainly is unusual! Things aren't looking particularly well for MAXJet at the moment are they?

How are loads on the STN-LAS route?



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User currently offlineAerlinguscargo From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5837 times:

Quoting JetBlueAtJFK (Reply 7):
I don't think thats it because on Sunday at JFK I saw a MAXjet plane in old white colors parked right by the JFK Expressway entrance from the Belt.

Still sitting there when I drove past tonight, I double took when i noticed the all white aircraft wearing MAX jet titles. Why hasnt this frame been painted purple yet? New Delivery ?


User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1859 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5815 times:
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Quoting Aerlinguscargo (Reply 10):
Still sitting there when I drove past tonight, I double took when i noticed the all white aircraft wearing MAX jet titles. Why hasnt this frame been painted purple yet? New Delivery ?

That plane has been there for a couple of weeks. I personally like the white better the purple is ugly.



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User currently offlineCslusarc From Canada, joined May 2005, 838 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5608 times:

Do you think that there is a long term future for an all business class service offering, like the one provided by MAXjet, between STN and various airports throughout the US? I absolutely don't think so, because STN is so distantly removed from The City and other business destinations within Central London. I would think MAXjet and other all business class service operators would have a better chance if they operated from either LTN or LGW.


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User currently offlineCancidas From Poland, joined Jul 2003, 4112 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5605 times:

that white airplane has been sitting at the FedEx hangars for a while now. i saw it there middle of the week, about to weeks ago. is that one AOG-ed for MX now?


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User currently offlineRdwootty From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 902 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5485 times:

Looking at the arrivals etc over the last few weeks they have cancelled the LAS and IAD flights on a regular basis. Aircraft problems or just bad loads. LAS has seemed to be cancelled for the last few weeks so is it all folding slowly ??

User currently offlineLHR777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4803 times:

Quoting Cslusarc (Reply 12):
I absolutely don't think so, because STN is so distantly removed from The City and other business destinations within Central London.

STN is actually quite close to the 'City of London'. The Stansted Express takes 40 minutes from STN to Liverpool St station, right in the financial district, with easy connections out to Docklands too. Try doing LHR to the City in 40 minutes. Almost impossible.


User currently offlineKevin777 From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 1165 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4572 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 2):

Uh huh....is this like when FL temporarily suspended MDW/EWR?

Or BD temporarily suspending BOM.... Bye, bye MAxJet at IAD... and bye bye MaxJet in general very soon, by the way

Quoting Cslusarc (Reply 12):
Do you think that there is a long term future for an all business class service offering, like the one provided by MAXjet, between STN and various airports throughout the US? I absolutely don't think so, because STN is so distantly removed from The City and other business destinations within Central London. I would think MAXjet and other all business class service operators would have a better chance if they operated from either LTN or LGW.

I personally don't think there is a market for independent all-C operators between London and the US. If there is, it can maximum support one player, but even that is doubtful. They can't provide flexibility and reliability, and service wise the only difference between them and VS, BA's etc. premium classes is that they come with an economy section attached; one that you aren't likely to see anyway. Eos, MaxJet and SilverJet combining forces? Maybe, but not big chances. Surviving on their own? Snowball's chance in hell.
However, I don't think its unviable because of using, say, STN - STN is, for instance, closer to London, and in particular the financial district, than LGW.

Kevin777  Smile



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User currently offlineFlyboy7974 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1540 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4002 times:

there was a post regarding this sometime over the weekend or last week where discussed was the lost of the IAD service for MAXJET, and clips were provided that due to unforseen maintenance and continued op problems with an aircraft, the airline decided to offer the IAD service seasonally, BOS service which was to be announced for the summer season is now delayed until further notice, and LAS service will be increased by one added flight a week and now the airline will focus on STN - JFK/LAS service. While loads weren't that bad on the IAD service and just the same for LAS, yields were higher for the LAS service, which surprised me quite a bit. I've been trying to search for the clips from the UK business paper that had all the info, but can't find them and I just checked also on flyertalk but couldnt find it there either

User currently offlineUAL777UK From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3849 times:

I bet UA are really upset about this as well.....NOT!

User currently offlineMlsrar From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 1417 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3823 times:

Quoting Sjc>sfo (Reply 6):
Does MaxJet use some kind of lounge in IAD? I was transiting Dulles on the 9th and the flight was delayed until 11:00 -- gate area was completely deserted save for 1 or 2 people - hopefully that wasn't the load for the night.

They use the Northwest WorldClub there.



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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 20, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3810 times:

As long as MaxJet doesn't pull their "bread and butter" JFK-STN route, I think they have a shot at surviving.....but reading some comments on skytrax, it seems they need to get their house in order a little bit and be a bit more consistent with their product offering....


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User currently offline8herveg From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1174 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3397 times:

Do not mean to sound ignorant, but what is the actual reason they are stopping the flight to IAD?

To focus on the other two routes says the press release. But how is stopping the IAD going to affect this?

They have 3 aircraft.

1 doing the 6 weekly STN - JFK route
1 doing the 2 weekly STN - LAS route

Which means they still have one aircraft left over, with the 2nd aircraft (the one doing the STN - LAS route) being spare for the 4 days it can do the IAD route.

Have any of them gone tech or something?

[Edited 2007-01-17 18:22:55]

User currently offlineLGW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3126 times:

Quoting Kevin777 (Reply 16):
STN is, for instance, closer to London, and in particular the financial district, than LGW.

STN is closer to much of the financial district yes, but LGW is closer to London in general.


User currently offlineKevin777 From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 1165 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2883 times:

Quoting LGW" class=quote target=_blank>LGW (Reply 22):
STN is closer to much of the financial district yes, but LGW is closer to London in general.

Okay, LGW you must know!

Kevin777



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User currently offlineRichcandy From UK - England, joined Aug 2001, 718 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2816 times:

"Do you think that there is a long term future for an all business class service offering, like the one provided by MAXjet, between STN and various airports throughout the US? I absolutely don't think so, because STN is so distantly removed from The City and other business destinations within Central London. I would think MAXjet and other all business class service operators would have a better chance if they operated from either LTN or LGW."

Question is who are maxjet targeting? More and more people here in the UK are flying business class when they go on holiday. They are happy to pay a bit more for space. I understand that Maxjet’s product is like an old style business class. So maybe it’s the premium economy class passengers that they are out to get?

As said before the travel time to STN from the city is not that bad. I guess if you live a West London it would be more of an issue. Eos have a more upmarket product and claim in a presentation that they did for the company I work for that they can get you from aircraft to kerb side within 14mins at STN, much faster than LHR.

And from next week we will have silverjet with there own terminal at LTN. BA have said that the cannot get enough capacity between London and New York and that’s why they have 11 flights a day.

Rich


25 Post contains links Avianca707359B : I am a firm believer in the free market system and I will always support new ventures IF they deliver on what they promise. The suspension of the Wash
26 Post contains images Kevin777 : You mean they cannot get enough large AC and that's why they have 11 daily flights with smaller a/c's or? Sounds weird! That should only be a tempora
27 V1valarob : A friend who is looking to get hired by MAXjet called her inside person. Whether its all BS or not who knows. But the lady said that loads where reall
28 Post contains images Kevin777 : I think it's a question of how can they afford not to do charters. I'm sure doing ad hoc charters for God-knows-who is the last thing you want to do
29 StarGoldLHR : Only a user with LGW in the name would suggest LGW is closer in general. I live in Canary wharf (Centre of the London's new business world) and find
30 LGW : I said that STN is closer to London's financial district and LGW is closer in mileage terms to London; both of which are correct, no bias there.
31 Expatmatt : I was at LAS Terminal 2 on Tuesday and noticed the MAXjet inbound was from STN and JFK, but the outbound was just for STN. Are the LAS flights making
32 Kevin777 : I'm no expert on fuel stops in general, but to me this seems like an all too obvious case of doubling up a flight across the pond. Nothing wrong with
33 N1120A : Anyone want to bet on a C-check being needed? Which it ALWAYS does. That decrepit network is damn near the best in the world It is, however, online.
34 Kevin777 : The best being Copenhagen's, although sizes of course are quite different Sorry for maybe asking a dumb question here, but what do you mean by that..
35 N1120A : Online means an airport they serve. Copenhagen's is too bus-intensive. The only cities that really compare to London are Berlin, New York, Paris and
36 Post contains images Kevin777 : Ok, knew that, just misunderstood your post.. Hmm.. firstly, I don't think Copenhagen or Berling should be directly compared to the above mentioned c
37 ACVitale : I would not put a lot of credit to people commenting as if they had inside information on Max Jet when you read some of the comments above. Max Jet ap
38 Post contains images Kevin777 : We can't all have inside info. Do you have any on MaxJet? You sure? How do you know? Even the success-airline stories (that are few) rarely have a po
39 Wj : Yup, one of the three (N251MY) has been parked in a hanger at JFK for a while now. They are operating with the two remaining planes. Kudos to them if
40 8herveg : So if LAS is only being operated 2 (and soon 3) times per week, surely they could still operate the IAD service the other 4 - 5 times a week?
41 N1120A : Well, that isn't really public transport, is it.
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