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CSA Flying Lanzarote To Dublin  
User currently offlineMcSteve From Netherlands, joined Jul 2005, 69 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3291 times:

Last Sunday I was flying from Lanzarote to Amsterdam on Martinair, and at the airport I noticed something I didn't expect to see. I saw a airbus of CSA operation a flight to Dublin! I've checked the Dublin airport site and the CSA site but both don't show a scheduled flight to and from Lanzarote from CSA, was this a charter? Even if why would CSA fly such a flight to Dublin. If it would be people from Prague than why would they stop at Dublin and otherwise if they operated the flight only from Dublin to Lanzarote is this because they have to much space in the schedule so they lease the aircraft?
The flight was if i'm correct operated on behalf of CSA so I would like to know if anybody knows what this was about.

Greetz,

Steven


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User currently onlineEI787 From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1513 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3294 times:
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Well I know that CSA fly charter flights from DUB to the ski slopes in winter. But this is the first I've heard of charters to the Canaries.

User currently offlineUpperDeck79 From Finland, joined Feb 2005, 1139 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3234 times:

I guess the carriers from the new EU countries are taking advantage of their newly acquired rights: Malev flies a HEL-ATH non-stop red-eye during the summer.


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User currently offlineStylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 2966 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3227 times:

Quoting UpperDeck79 (Reply 2):
I guess the carriers from the new EU countries are taking advantage of their newly acquired rights: Malev flies a HEL-ATH non-stop red-eye during the summer.

I suppose this rights aren't newly anymore?!?! look at carriers like AB (at PMI and STN), FR and EZY (everywhere in EU)


User currently offlineAcelanzarote From Spain, joined Nov 2005, 826 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3208 times:

CSA have been operating into here for a while on a Sunday
normally either from Dublin or Cork.....Guess they are filling
a gap left by EirJet when they went bust last year....


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User currently offlineAJO From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 575 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3178 times:

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 3):
I suppose this rights aren't newly anymore?!?! look at carriers like AB (at PMI and STN), FR and EZY (everywhere in EU)

Well, Germany, where AB is from, has been a member of the EU since 1957, so for a German airline it isn't new, but for OK, from the Czech Republic, it's fairly new, since the Czech Republic is an EU member state since 2004.



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User currently offlineYirina77 From Czech Republic, joined Aug 2006, 632 posts, RR: 32
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3170 times:

Yes, CSA has some charters flights there. It´s not very new, last year we were flying charter flights from DUB to SZG and TLS, with skiers.
Just for interest, on 5th january CSA flew charter flight for some german tourist agency to Punta Arenas (southern Chile), with A310. This flight had 2 stops, first one in Dakar, second one in Buenos Aires.



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User currently offlineCOEI2007 From Vanuatu, joined Jan 2007, 1912 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3150 times:

They're flying from DUB to ACE etc to cover Eirjets demise. XL/Air Malta have a number of flights ex Dub to Spain etc. aswell

User currently offlineMcSteve From Netherlands, joined Jul 2005, 69 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3089 times:

interesting, would anybody know how they would mange there crews on the flights are they based in the uk?Since the flight would take about 4 hours oneway if I'm correct. And since this are charter flights there would be no SkyTeam points right or connecting flight to other cities?Because I've I'm correct there is no other Skyteammember flying to Lanzarote.

Thanks for your replies,

Steven



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User currently offlineBFS From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 738 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3002 times:

Doesn't surprise me - Ireland, unlike the neighbouring UK, does not attract the vertically integrated holiday companies like MYT, FCA and TOM to such a great extent. This results in some odd companies operating holiday flights - when I worked as both a travel agent in Belfast and holiday rep for FCA in Menorca, passengers flying to DUB were often baffled by the choice of airline operating their flight (invariably one they had never heard of!).

User currently offlineCOEI2007 From Vanuatu, joined Jan 2007, 1912 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 2899 times:

Quoting BFS (Reply 9):
Doesn't surprise me - Ireland, unlike the neighbouring UK, does not attract the vertically integrated holiday companies like MYT, FCA and TOM to such a great extent. This results in some odd companies operating holiday flights - when I worked as both a travel agent in Belfast and holiday rep for FCA in Menorca, passengers flying to DUB were often baffled by the choice of airline operating their flight (invariably one they had never heard of!).

We get a lot of the large package companies, such as First Choice (Falcon), TUI (Budget Travel), MyTravel/Airtours/Panoram, Sunworld etc, but we dont get their in-house airlines as much

FCA bases a 757-200 in Dublin for the summer, and I think an A320 for the winter. XL is basing a 737 this Summer, TOM operated a Dublin to Cancun that originated in Cardiff last summer. Monarch operates a fortnightly A330 to SFB from June to October, and they also have an A300 operating from DUB from Thurs to Sun during the summer season. Apart from that, we mostly get Futura, Spanair, Eurocypria, Onur Air and a few other airlines like LTE, Iberworld etc


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26909 posts, RR: 58
Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 2868 times:

Malev did charters for United Travel to Bulgaria last year. Monarch use the A300 for DUB - REU . I flew it last year and it was a MAN based crew. Funny Air Malta are operating to Spain !!! They just axed the scheduled service from DUB to MLA . I was quite suprised at that. CSA also did a few charters for Lapland back in December also. They are quite popular and have a good reputation. BMI also did a few charters to the Med last year.

User currently offlineToulouse From Switzerland, joined Apr 2005, 2758 posts, RR: 58
Reply 12, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 2860 times:

Quoting McSteve (Thread starter):

Not this winter, but over the past few winter seasons I saw plenty of weekly charter ski flights operated by CSA between DUB and TLS.



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26909 posts, RR: 58
Reply 13, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 2781 times:

S4 are starting a weekly service with an A320 for the summer DUB to PDL!! Will be interesting . Whats happening on the Air Gibraltar route ? there website hasnt changed yet http://www.flygib.com/

User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19204 posts, RR: 52
Reply 14, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 2777 times:

KM based an A320 - with ex-AN crew, at least up-front - in BRS. Don't know if it still does, but I flew aboard it a couple of years ago. KM also based one or two in MAN.


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User currently offlineAC747 From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 277 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 2765 times:

Adria have also been seen in DUB in the past flying charters to sun and ski spots (not in Slovenia).
BMI have done runs to Bulgaria and of course don't forget that over the past two Summers Malev have been operating a sched DUB-ATH service.
Mind you, I doubt they will be doing the same this Summer as EI have their new ATH flights starting in June.



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26909 posts, RR: 58
Reply 16, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 2730 times:

Quoting AC747 (Reply 15):
Mind you, I doubt they will be doing the same this Summer as EI have their new ATH flights starting in June.

The last I heard MA were still planning their summer DUB - ATH route !!! Just called them though and they say all flights Via BUD !!


User currently offlineAC747 From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 277 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 2715 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 16):
all flights Via BUD !!

Yeah, not really the same is it ?
Pity in a way that they won't be going nonstop.
I did this flight with them last June and they were a great airline to fly with.
OK the times were awful, arriving and departing ATH in the wee hours. But the on board service was fab. Real heritage stuff. Big, comfy leather seats. Nice food and helpful, friendly F/A's.
I'm sure EI will make a good go of the flights.



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User currently offlineJoelatbsl From Switzerland, joined Jan 2005, 158 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 2609 times:

CSA's A310 OK-WAA could be seen regularly in BSL, ZRH, DUS, MUC and the likes last fall when African Safari's 5Y-VIP was in maintenance. Looks like CSA's four-strong widebody fleet is not entirely used yet...


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User currently offlineAC747 From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 277 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2520 times:

Here's more CSA action for you, from today's DUB Arrivals board :

Verona-BRESCIA Csa Czech Airlines OK7495 13:20
Geneva Csa Czech Airlines OK7607 20:00

They get around !



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User currently offlineCOEI2007 From Vanuatu, joined Jan 2007, 1912 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2494 times:

I like seeing the MON A300 in Dublin. I think it does Faro and Lanzarote on a Thursday, Heraklion and Tenerife on Friday, Palma Reus and Gran Canaria on a Saturday, and Sunday is anybody's guess!!!

I guess OK, KM or any airline will operate charters to/from wherever if it makes them $$$$$$!!!!


User currently offlineAC747 From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 277 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2432 times:

Quoting COEI2007 (Reply 20):

I guess OK, KM or any airline will operate charters to/from wherever if it makes them

For sure. Gotta make a living.
Some examples of airlines operating (to countries other than their own) out of DUB today include :

Cape Town Ltu LT9883 18:50
Salzburg Transavia HV1902 10:55
Fuerteventura Air Malta KM4603 14:55
Las Palmas Air Malta KM4605 00:55
Turin Air Malta KM4701 10:50
Chambery Astraeus AEU548 12:25
Salzburg Thomas Cook TCX252L 15:40
Plovdiv Thomas Cook TCX299L 01:40
Geneva First Choice Airline FCA8601 12:15
Las Palmas First Choice Airline FCA8643 23:55
Toulouse First Choice Airline FCA8705 12:20
Salzburg Monarch MON6509 14:10
Lyon-SATOLAS Monarch MON6573 20:05
Gerona Monarch MON6743 13:00

Business is indeed business.



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User currently offlineEgmcman From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 898 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2392 times:

Correct if I'm wrong but I have picked up their A321's on my sbs-1 it is understanding they are in a charter configuration (all economy). The A310's are used on transatlantic services to JFK, EWR and Montreal.

User currently offlineCOEI2007 From Vanuatu, joined Jan 2007, 1912 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2333 times:

Yeah, they got those A321's just for charter ops. Obviosly they must be making good use of them, because we see them regularly in DUB!

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