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First Pic Of 747LCF In Full Color Scheme!  
User currently offlineHighFlyer9790 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1241 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 23106 times:

A lot better than the bare metal/primer colors!




sorry if this has already been posted. search was not fruitful.

I think it would have also looked nice in boeing house colors too..


highflyer

[Edited 2007-01-16 23:09:51]

[Edited 2007-01-16 23:10:08]


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User currently offlineMemphis From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 23085 times:

where is the forward cargo door???


nocturnal
User currently offlineLeezyjet From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 4041 posts, RR: 53
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 23040 times:

Quoting Memphis (Reply 1):
where is the forward cargo door???

Looks like a few other panels are missing too, above the engine, and the wing/body fairing.

 Smile



"She Rolls, 45 knots, 90, 135, nose comes up to 20 degrees, she's airborne - She flies, Concorde Flies"
User currently offlineADiZzy From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 171 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 23028 times:

WOW and they say the A380 looks like is has grown a big tumor! Yet-still impressive and most likely an awesome aircraft.

User currently offlineMemphis From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 23001 times:

a few panels, not that big of a deal, but the removal of the entire door, in my mind, is a little more than simply popping a panel! Why???


nocturnal
User currently offlineHighFlyer9790 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 22885 times:

Quoting Memphis (Reply 1):
where is the forward cargo door???



Quoting Leezyjet (Reply 2):
Looks like a few other panels are missing too, above the engine, and the wing/body fairing.



Quoting Memphis (Reply 4):
a few panels, not that big of a deal, but the removal of the entire door, in my mind, is a little more than simply popping a panel! Why???

my only guess is that those panels/doors must specially painted for weight precision, like thr rudder. other than that, its at evergreen, so maybe some additional mods or something.


747LCF-better than the A300 beluga? (no A vs. B intended)


highflyer



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User currently offlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7087 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 22667 times:

If my facts are right, it was a PAX version and the cargo loading is done by the tail half swinging open. Not so much the nose door as on usual 744Fs

User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 850 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 22586 times:

"747LCF or A306 Beluga?"

Both butt ugly.....but doing their job.

Micke// Big grin



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User currently offlineJetBlueAtJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 22562 times:

Quoting Solnabo (Reply 7):
"747LCF or A306 Beluga?"

Both butt ugly.....but doing their job.

Exactly what I was about to say. I think the 747LCF doesn't look as awkward as the Beluga does though.

B6jfk airplane 



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User currently offlinePygmalion From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 966 posts, RR: 38
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 22514 times:

LCF delivered the first set of 787 parts to Charleston SC today. Next stop Seattle!

http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2007/q1/070116d_pr.html


User currently offlineJakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4936 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 22481 times:

The tail section swings open for outsized cargo, hence no nose door.

Karl


User currently offlineHighFlyer9790 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 22312 times:

Quoting ZKSUJ (Reply 6):
If my facts are right, it was a PAX version and the cargo loading is done by the tail half swinging open. Not so much the nose door as on usual 744Fs

it was a PAX version? huh? i think i missed something..



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User currently offlineHighFlyer9790 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 22030 times:

Looking at it again, It must have taken a lot of paint!! how much  dollarsign  do you think it took?


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User currently offlineUal747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 21974 times:

Stupid question, and I'm sure it's been asked before, but why does this aircraft have no winglets? At work, not able to really do a search.

Thanks,

UAL


User currently offlineBrenintw From Taiwan, joined Jul 2006, 1611 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 21968 times:

Quoting HighFlyer9790 (Reply 11):
it was a PAX version? huh? i think i missed something

The LCF's are all built from PAX versions -- no need for the added weight of the hydraulics etc needed to open/raise the nose, since the cargo is loaded from the rear of the A/C.

Quite why the lower cargo hold door is not fitted is beyond me, although I'm sure it will be fitted before this bird takes to the skies.



I'm tired of the A vs. B sniping. Neither make planes that shed wings randomly!
User currently offlineHighFlyer9790 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 21866 times:

Quoting Brenintw (Reply 14):
The LCF's are all built from PAX versions -- no need for the added weight of the hydraulics etc needed to open/raise the nose, since the cargo is loaded from the rear of the A/C.

duuhhh that makes sense!



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User currently offlineYellowstone From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3071 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 21316 times:

Quoting Ual747 (Reply 13):
Stupid question, and I'm sure it's been asked before, but why does this aircraft have no winglets? At work, not able to really do a search.

Thanks,

UAL

IIRC, it flies a lot slower than the standard 747-400 (for obvious reasons). Hence, the drag reduction from the winglets isn't enough to make them worth the extra weight.



Hydrogen is an odorless, colorless gas which, given enough time, turns into people.
User currently offlineLHR777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 20691 times:

Quoting JakTrax (Reply 10):
The tail section swings open for outsized cargo, hence no nose door.

I think the question is regarding the huge gaping hole where the lower-deck forward hold door used to be, not the fact that there is no upward-opening nose door.

It's maybe just been removed for painting, as there are 2 pressure-relief valves in the door and you don't want to just spray over them, as they need to open. They're also used to vent the hold, in case dangerous goods such as dry-ice are carried.


User currently offlinePolymerPlane From United States of America, joined May 2006, 991 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 20692 times:

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 16):
IIRC, it flies a lot slower than the standard 747-400 (for obvious reasons). Hence, the drag reduction from the winglets isn't enough to make them worth the extra weight.

I think the reason for winglet removal is more to unexplained vibration rather than the weight reduction.

Cheers,
PP



One day there will be 100% polymer plane
User currently offlineGyojoo From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 24 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 20399 times:

I wonder if it has crew accomodations in front of the forward bulkhead, where first class used to be.

User currently offlineGQfluffy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 19962 times:

Quoting HighFlyer9790 (Reply 11):
it was a PAX version? huh? i think i missed something..

Yes. The LCFs are being converted from PAX versions. Not sure from what airline(s)...


User currently offlineMptpa From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 545 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 19929 times:

Quoting Gyojoo (Reply 19):
I wonder if it has crew accomodations in front of the forward bulkhead, where first class used to be.

Is there any living area in the forward upper deck behind the cockpit? I would think this area may be used for this purpose????


User currently offlineRyanairCRL From France, joined Dec 2005, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 19058 times:

how many are they gonna built? and if more than1, when's the second one due?


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User currently offlineBrendows From Norway, joined Apr 2006, 1020 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 18558 times:

Quoting RyanairCRL (Reply 22):
how many are they gonna built? and if more than1, when's the second one due?

There will be three LCF at first, and I believe there are plans for another two. The aircraft in the picture in the first post is the second LCF, and it's being delivered in the next few weeks. The first one (N747BC) was delivered about five months ago.

Quoting GQfluffy (Reply 20):
Not sure from what airline(s)...

The first LCF, N747BC, is a former Air China bird (B-2464) (cn 25879/ln 904)
The second one (on the picture in the first post) is N780BA, former China Airlines B-162 (and B-18272) (cn 24310/ln 778)
Third LCF is N249BA, former China Airlines B-18271 cn 24309/ln 766 (ex B-161)


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26376 posts, RR: 76
Reply 24, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 18448 times:

Quoting HighFlyer9790 (Reply 5):
747LCF-better than the A300 beluga?

It will lift more

Quoting HighFlyer9790 (Reply 11):
it was a PAX version? huh? i think i missed something..

It is a converted passenger aircraft

Quoting Ual747 (Reply 13):
but why does this aircraft have no winglets?

Not needed for short hauls

Quoting Brendows (Reply 23):
The first LCF, N747BC, is a former Air China bird (B-2464) (cn 25879/ln 904)
The second one (on the picture in the first post) is N780BA, former China Airlines B-162 (and B-18272) (cn 24310/ln 778)
Third LCF is N249BA, former China Airlines B-18271 cn 24309/ln 766 (ex B-161)

Mainland and Taiwan, working together Big grin



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25 Albird87 : Back to the front cargo door.... is it possible that because they wont be using the cargo compartments for the haulage of anything, will they not remo
26 AirbusA346 : AFAIK the APU is in the forward cargo hold, so they still need access from time to time, but I might be wrong. Tom.
27 Vivekman2006 : Finally it has been painted! Was getting tired looking at the green/metallic colours. Looks neat!
28 Post contains images SRMD11 : Wow! really impresive. Thanks for the Pic! The LCF looks like a Snake - digest a A-350XWB LOL
29 Post contains images 777DAD : Go easy man,Ive seen some "Nice Butts" in my life, "butt" nothing like this! ( pun intended) See Ya, Jeff
30 Haj96 : So if I understand correctly the first LCF is still green and is doing it´s work unpainted? Or has it been painted meanwhile too? Regards, haj96
31 RICARIZA : I have to disagree, this looks worse than the Beluga! Anyway, is not here for its looks but functionality.. ugly as hell but it does its work I suppo
32 N314as : Boy you guys are so in a hurry to upload this......at least let the damn thing come out a little more to get a good shot.
33 Post contains images EMA747 : Does anyone else agree that its a really dull livery? Surely they could have come up with an interesting paint job for it? (I'm thinking Malaysian Fre
34 Post contains images Dambuster : I agree (partially), it's not horrible, but I'd have preferred it in the Dreamliner livery itself... I like the name: "Dreamlifter"!
35 Post contains images Zvezda : I still think it would have looked better with three rows of fake windows painted on. If Boeing ever build a Y3, do you think they would build an even
36 DfwRevolution : You should be thankful Boeing even painted it that well. Initial plans were just plain white with no titles at all. What I do think would have been c
37 HAWK21M : Looks Good. regds MEL
38 Post contains images NoWorries : Maybe they'll order up an A380LCF from Airbus ??
39 Post contains images Mustang304 : While I don't think it is horrible, I think they should of rigged it with LEDs, and they could advertise as they fly over, kind of like the Goodyear b
40 Dambuster : Yeah, I agree, plus the shape of the LCF is kinda bizzar... maybe the Dreamliner livery wouldn't look the same... but who cares, it's not bad.
41 AirEMS : Very impressive - I like the name Dream Lifter -Carl
42 Post contains links NYCA330 : I guess this is it on flightaware. It is airborne right now, apparently routing BFI-BFI. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE876
43 Post contains images S12PPL : As much as I love Boeing... Holy crap that thing looks ugly! Thank god it isn't a new model! Very interesting though... It does look like one of those
44 HighFlyer9790 : Well, it gets the job done. Now the fusalage pieces wont get shot up on passing frieght train the plains like th 737s....plus, the composite fusalage
45 747hogg : Looks like it needs to fart real bad!
46 Post contains links Brendows : That's correct, it hasn't been painted yet. You can see it on a picture from Monday here: http://www.boeing.com/commercial/news/2007/q1/070116d_pr.ht
47 Gunsontheroof : This is a new Dreamlifter. The one you're referring to is still green...I saw it at BFI on Sunday night. Not an a.net photo, I believe it came from B
48 Raventom : I think PolymerPlane is correct. I read in Flight International that Boeing said "it was decided not to fly with winglets following vibration issues"
49 Airfoilsguy : Thats how far it got before someone realized that the front cargo door was missing and they pushed it back in.
50 HighFlyer9790 : Thats the beauty of A.net...so many people with inns and first hand info!!
51 Post contains images Areopagus : Then they should really produce LCF #4 to fly slot.
52 Centrair : When is this thing going to Italy? and... What airport will it use to bring over parts from there?
53 Post contains images FighterPilot : Very Nice! I would have preferred her in the "Dreamliner" livery however. Maybe they'll paint one of the others like that. Cal
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