LIPZ From Austria, joined Jun 2006, 1075 posts, RR: 0 Posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2974 times:
According to United Press International, LOT is going to restart WAW-PEK route from Sep.
WARSAW, Poland, Jan. 17 (UPI) -- The Polish national air carrier LOT announced in Warsaw Wednesday it will restart flights to China after an eight-year hiatus.
LOT will begin flying to China with Boeing-767s three times a week, beginning in September, Radio Polonia reported.
Planemanofnz From New Zealand, joined Sep 2005, 1653 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2933 times:
Absolutely fantastic!
Any reason why they chose PEK and not somewhere like HKG, NRT, BKK, SIN or most notably PVG?
They'll get feeder traffic from the new Star partners Air China and Shanghai Airlines which is great aswell! Are there any plans to codeshare with one of these airlines?
Are their strong ties between China and Poland or is this new route due to the recent economic boom of both countries?
Kevin777 From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 1154 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2856 times:
Congrats, LOT. But can't help wondering, why start up in September? Routes to China are not just business routes, leisure travel - both ways - accounts significantly, so September seems a bit odd. BUt maybe they didn't have the plane ready before or something. Hope it materializes.
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LOT767SP-LPA From Poland, joined May 2002, 154 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2813 times:
LOT needs more widebody planes (763) to open more longhaul routes to Asia but it is hard to find in good conditions with GE engines, until 787 will be deliverd to the fleet in October '08. In summer season '07 will use all 8 767 fleet on rouets between Poland and USA and Canada. So LOT decided to start flights to PEK in September '07 when summer season goes to sleep and few planes are waiting in front of hangar. For egzample 763 SP-LPC and LPF this winter flies for Santa Barbara and Air Europe.
ForgotMyNick From Poland, joined Jan 2007, 26 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2768 times:
Good news, first reasonable idea from LOT in a loooong time... (IF it really happens). No announcement on their own site so far though, which I found weird.
Quoting Planemanofnz (Reply 2): Are their strong ties between China and Poland or is this new route due to the recent economic boom of both countries?
Definitely the latter one. (Actually yours truly is in Beijing right now, but not on behalf on any Polish or Chinese business.)
Quoting Kevin777 (Reply 4): But can't help wondering, why start up in September?
Could be because of CA and FM joining *A only then? Also, see below abt the fleet.
Quoting Kevin777 (Reply 4): Routes to China are not just business routes,
I'd say mostly business, for now. (No specific data to confirm it though.)
Quoting Kevin777 (Reply 4): BUt maybe they didn't have the plane ready before or something.
The whole long-haul fleet is just seven 767's, and I'm hearing nothing else will arrive until 787 are ready (hopefully some time in 2008). These aircrafts are used almost exclusively on routes to North America.
3MilesToWRO From Poland, joined Mar 2006, 266 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2770 times:
Quoting Planemanofnz (Reply 2): Are their strong ties between China and Poland or is this new route due to the recent economic boom of both countries?
I wouldn't say strong ties, but Chinese are coming to us like they come to everywhere with their business, so I think there is a 1.5 billion customer market
And, actually, there are a lot of Korean and Japanese investments in my neighbourhood (Wroc�aw), so even if there are too few Chinese to fill our planes, other Asian nations will help.
Kevin777 From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 1154 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 2444 times:
Quoting ForgotMyNick (Reply 7): Quoting Kevin777 (Reply 4):
But can't help wondering, why start up in September?
Could be because of CA and FM joining *A only then?
Could be a factor, but the capacity-issue is probably the significant one
Quoting ForgotMyNick (Reply 7): Quoting Kevin777 (Reply 4):
Routes to China are not just business routes,
I'd say mostly business, for now.
No doubt, there is a lot of business traffic, and for now it is probably highly dominant, but leisure is getting a bigger share relatively speaking. For instance, a major reason behind SK launching ARN-BJS was Swedish tourism to China. I know that WAW/ARN-BJS shouldn't be directly compared at all, but still, with both Polish and Chinese people becoming more and more affluent, I think WAW-BJS could turn into a significant tourist route, too.
Kevin777
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Shane From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 180 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 2329 times:
Can anyone tell me where LOT's 767s are from and how long they've had them? I know that at least one is an ex-Varig machine. There is Portuguese signage all over it and the in-flight map is in Portuguese and English (no Polish) and even says "Welcome Aboard Varig". You'd think they could at least spring for new software for that thing...
Uzzzer From Ukraine, joined Dec 2006, 137 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 2070 times:
Quoting Codeshare (Reply 15): There were some rumours circulating that SP-LOA/B were to go away, and more 767-300/ERs leased, prior to the 787 delivery.
Might not be an easy task. Second hand 763 are rare species. VV's been looking and waiting for one for over half a year.
Interestingly that LO 763 (in LOT liveries) were performing flights for VV late last year from their KBP base, while VV 763 were undergoing checks. This lasted for at least several weeks. Does that mean that LO has excess longhaul fleet?
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