Dubai-based Emirates Airline, the biggest A380 customer, with 43 planes on order, has said it will lose hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue because of the delays. Airbus will have to take a "massive write-off" to foot the bill, Emirates President Tim Clark said this week.
Airbus, controlled by EADS (the European Aeronautics Defence and Space company), received orders for just 800 aircraft in 2006, down from 1,055 in 2005. It has had to contend with a resurgent Boeing, and a weak dollar.
Airbus is suffering from highly publicised production problems and delays with its jumbo A380 model as well as relatively weak sales of its A330/340 models and the delayed A350.
Airbus’s market share now stands at only 18% in the market for wide-body airplanes, compared to Boeing’s 82%.
BlueSky1976 From Poland, joined Jul 2004, 1939 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 19075 times:
No surprise there. I don't think AA will have anything bigger than a 350-seater in their fleet in the next 20 years. Besides, they're in bed with Boeing, so odds of them buying Airbus product are zero to none.
Now get your f***ing Jumbo Jet off my airport!!! - AC/DC "Ain't No Fun To Be a Millionaire"
Thorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 18989 times:
AA doesn't even have 773s or 747s, what would they do with A380s anyway? Besides, who knows how much longer they'll be around, profit or not. Hardly a "blow" for Airbus. They should rather focus on selling them A350s, would fit way better.
Slz396 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 18961 times:
Knowing Keesje, I think the title was ment to be sarcastic....
BTW, AA sounded really interested in the A350 on their video conference recently and when you look objectively at it, it would make much sense for them to replace their T7 fleet with the clearly superior A359/A351; the 787 could be ordered in the 783 and 788 versions to replace their 762 and 763, thus getting the best of both words.
One can buy Airbus if one can find someone who owns them who is willing to sell them and can agree on a price. Right now, EADS own all the Airbus shares, but I'm sure they would sell E1B or more worth for the right price.
EA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13874 posts, RR: 61
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 18206 times:
Quoting Zvezda (Reply 19): Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 17):
Now THAT'S comedy!
It's hardly a slam-dunk to think of AA replacing a fleet of 40-plus airframes with a product that isn't very clearly defined as of yet, especially when you've got a VERY clearly defined (787) product that is arguably a better replacement (once replacement time comes around - their 777 fleet is young!) AND the fact that AA will be preoccupied with the MD-80 fleet replacement (360 frames, give or take) in the next few years.
"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem - government IS the problem." - Ronald Reagan
Slz396 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 18112 times:
Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 21): It's hardly a slam-dunk to think of AA replacing a fleet of 40-plus airframes with a product that isn't very clearly defined as of yet, especially when you've got a VERY clearly defined (787) product that is arguably a better replacement.
Well, SQ doesn't seem to think it is such a silly idea to split the order.
But who cares, they are only the world's most highly respected airline.
: isn't it lovely when the silly seasons starts; obviously the head of AA hadn't got any real news to tell the reporter, so he came up with the obvious
26 EA CO AS
: Refresh my memory...how are those A345s working out for them?
: SQ have yet to split the order. They are still negotiating with both Airbus and Boeing.
: Daaaaa, and in a blow to Boeing they would not buy the 747-8I.
: I think that EADS would kill any potential buyer on the price:earnings ratio of those shares. EADS knows that it wasn't very long ago that they had a
: According to whom, exactly? SQ has an LOI. They are not a firm A350 customer. Far stranger things have happened in the last twenty years than for SQ
: I blame Airbus for their lack of transparency when publishing orders on their website. Why didn't they say that AA and the other airlines you mention
: Have not heard anything negative yet. I find it interesting that an AA manager says that they are interested in the A350. Even if they won´t place a
: Delusional in that AA are interested in the A350, perhaps. Delusional in the oinion that the A350 will be a superior plane to the 777, well its hard
: A LoI signed by SQ is nearly an indicator that a type won't serve in SQ's fleet.
: I'm disgusted by this. How dare they? I think its Jade Goody and Jo O'Meara's fault to be honest. I'm writing to my MP.
: Very well might be...but between the B777 and A350, there is something in the way called the B787....
: I think AA may have been able to use the A380F for cargo services to China and the rest of Asia... but I don't see how they can use a passenger A380 t
: So these A345s are not working out for SQ, so I guess they are changing these aircraft that are apparently not working out for them?
: Er..no, its just not worth the cost of purchasing the -200LR...... edit: just to add to my post...AA has deferred 777 slots...[Edited 2007-01-18 17:2
: Couldn't top that even if I tried. LOVE IT. I am texting Blair
: SQ's problem with the A340-500 is that the resale values are so low that it's not affordable to replace them with the 777-200LR. They will remain in
: Rumour has it that the Boeing BWB is out of the running at AA too
: Delusional to think that AA is in any hurry to replace nearly 50 (relativly young) 772ER. Look at AA's fleet needs. Neither the 787 nor A350 are goin
44 EA CO AS
: Try again - unless you consider significant payload restrictions to be a good thing.
: What a stupid statement. Nobody ever seriously thought AA would buy the A380 did they? I hardly think Airbus executives will lose much sleep over thi
: I never considered AA a realistic customer for the A380 to begin with. They haven't operated a VLA for quite some time. They seem quite happy running