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The New Western Airlines To Fly Today  
User currently offlineSpencerII From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 9294 times:

Today is the day the "new" Western Airlines is to take to the skies
today at BLI.

58 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 9270 times:

With what.....and to where?
safe



If two people agree on EVERYTHING, then one isn't necessary.
User currently offlineSpencerII From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 9270 times:

You can access their info at www.iflywestern.com

User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 9249 times:

The site takes care of where.....now,
whats the equipment?
safe



If two people agree on EVERYTHING, then one isn't necessary.
User currently offlineSpencerII From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 9239 times:

Its my understanding that they are using 737-400 of Xtrair, but have
contracts whereby they have subleased some 737's and will be operating their own by autumn.


User currently offlineTjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2503 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 9141 times:

Quoting SpencerII (Reply 4):
Its my understanding that they are using 737-400 of Xtrair,

Yep, looks like Xtra Airways:

http://flightaware.com/live/airport/KBLI/scheduled



Direct KNOBS, maintain 2700' until established on the localizer, cleared ILS runway 26 left approach.
User currently offlineBoomBoom From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 9118 times:

Route Map:



[Edited 2007-01-18 16:51:45]

User currently offlineBlatantEcho From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1922 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 9056 times:

their website is awful


They're not handing trophies out today
User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 9053 times:

Another service to IWA which is good news. Adds to the Chicago area and soon to the LA area service.

User currently offlineFloridaflyboy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2018 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 9019 times:

This is good news. But, I'm wondering why BLI? Is there a big market in BLI?


Good goes around!
User currently offlineTjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2503 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 8856 times:

Quoting Floridaflyboy (Reply 9):
But, I'm wondering why BLI? Is there a big market in BLI?

From their website:

"With Bellingham International Airport (BLI) as its base of operations, Western offers residents of the quickly expanding region of northern Washington and southern British Columbia, Canada a more convenient and less expensive alternative to the Seattle-Tacoma and Vancouver International Airport."



Direct KNOBS, maintain 2700' until established on the localizer, cleared ILS runway 26 left approach.
User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5844 posts, RR: 28
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 8812 times:

Here are the a.net discussions about new Western in just the last 2 weeks.
http://www.airliners.net/discussions...eneral_aviation/read.main/3197801/
http://www.airliners.net/discussions...eneral_aviation/read.main/3173105/

And today's media coverage on the first departure
http://www.bellinghamherald.com/256/story/46724.html



"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness." - Mark Twain
User currently offlineSunking737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2058 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 8812 times:

Could the "new" Western be "The only way to Fly"?

Maybe, maybe not, stay tuned airline fans.




OK, this airline will close on,__________2007?



Just an MSPAVGEEK
User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 8647 times:

Quoting Sunking737 (Reply 12):
OK, this airline will close on,__________2007?

March 22, 2007

I'll even go as far as to why:

They'll be so far behind in their payments to Xtra Airways for services rendered that Xtra will pull their a/c from the operations and Western cannot find someone to replace them with.


User currently offlineFloridaflyboy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2018 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8533 times:

Quoting Tjwgrr (Reply 10):
"With Bellingham International Airport (BLI) as its base of operations, Western offers residents of the quickly expanding region of northern Washington and southern British Columbia, Canada a more convenient and less expensive alternative to the Seattle-Tacoma and Vancouver International Airport."

Nice. Thanks, I must have missed that part.



Good goes around!
User currently offlineStarstream707 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 174 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 8308 times:

Any pics of the aircraft?

User currently offlineBoeing7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 8284 times:

Yikes. Great start:

The Boeing 737 pulled away from the terminal about 50 minutes after its scheduled departure time of 7 a.m.

The flight was scheduled to return to Bellingham at 1:15 p.m. today, but it was expected to be about an hour behind schedule because of the late departure.

http://www.bellinghamherald.com/256/story/46724.html


User currently offlineDL Widget Head From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2100 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 8273 times:

They have a very lofty mission statement for a startup. How about something a little more realistic. Frankly, I don't think they'll make it six months.

User currently onlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9730 posts, RR: 31
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 8214 times:

Didn't Delta buy the rights on the name when they bought Western?

The one and only Western Airlines is history and the service they had was outstanding and far above everything that is available on a scheduled carrier in the US today.

A low cost flight is the opposite of a champagne flight.



Es saugt und blaest der Heinzelmann wo Mutti sonst nur blasen kann. Frueher war mehr Lametta.
User currently offlineSunking737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2058 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8140 times:

Didn't anyone on A.net buy tickets for the first trip?

Did anyone fly the first trip?

Does anyone care?



Just an MSPAVGEEK
User currently offlineBoeing7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8073 times:

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 18):
Didn't Delta buy the rights on the name when they bought Western?

The trademark expired about two years ago.


User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9803 posts, RR: 52
Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 8037 times:

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 13):
Quoting Sunking737 (Reply 12):
OK, this airline will close on,__________2007?

March 22, 2007

I'll even go as far as to why:

They'll be so far behind in their payments to Xtra Airways for services rendered that Xtra will pull their a/c from the operations and Western cannot find someone to replace them with.

Well if you look at their destinations, they are flying mostly leisure travelers on vacation routes. Disneyland, San Diego and Phoenix are hotspots. They don't serve LAS because they'd be competing with Allegiant, but if this airline can partner with package travel groups, then it can work. There is a reasonable population in that part of the country. Washington State only has about 2 airports with any significant service. BLI is a good distance from SEA. It's a two hour drive. This part of the country also has long miserably cool and damp winters. There are plenty of people wanting a break south.

I think it's the type of concept that can work if they do their marketing well enough.



If you have never designed an airplane part before, let the real designers do the work!
User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 5120 posts, RR: 28
Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 7975 times:

Airline employees worked through the night to get a makeshift double-wide portable building ready for the start of check-in operations.

“That building was split in half yesterday morning,” managing director Steve Olszewski said.



They had this day planned for how long? LOL!

Anyways, I hope they do good. I would be curious to see what the paint job is going to look like.



I Am A Different Animal!!
User currently offlineFlyboy7974 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1540 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 7937 times:

everybody missed their initial announcement that also included a bli-rno-san flight that was pulled due to lack of bookings. initial bookings to phx/williams gateway are strong, and, just as allegiant, the catchment area that the airline is hoping to grab from is huge, from northern seattle all the way up and into Canada. If I am correct, it was planned for the flights to run later yesterday and only yesterday specifically for the press and media and to have time in each airport for the opening day ceremonies. There was a clip on their webpage if you went into the booking engine that even noted this that on the 18th, flights would run later than depicted for the ceremonies and events that each airport had planned.

I believe it is a 737-400 being used and subleased from Xtra Airways, everybody knows this company already, the renamed Casino Express after being purchased over a year ago and the new investors dumped the 737-200 a/c for the more fuel efficient 737-400 which also now offers greater range, pax load and carrying capability. BLI is now reminding me back a few years ago when Western Pacific opened up their COS hub, and remember they called it the I25 corridor, fares low enough they were grabbing pax from the northern CO border to the souther CO border and all in between. friend in college was from Fort Collins and would fly every other weekend from PHX back to COS to see his fiance in Fort Collins, and he did it because of the fares being so low. BLI has that prospective, especially since pax having to travel from Canada are found to encounter huge international taxes and I think that Allegiant had even made comments that their BLI flghts were flying over half full with Canadian nationals. Add that to the fact that Seattle isn't really that far away with I5 being right there


User currently offlineRampart From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 3156 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 7814 times:

Sounds like a combination of Morris Air and Western Pacific at their early stages. Secondary airport in a larger metro corridor. Start with vacation areas. Public charters like Morris. Tough to build up any hub transfers, though, unless they branch into Canada.

Morris ended up being successful enough to be bought by WN. WP was originally successful but exploded beyond all control. Will be interesting to watch.

-Rampart


25 DesertFlyer : I saw a red on white 737-400 taking off 11:30ish yesterday at IWA, I guess this was them. I can't wait to take them up to see my family near BLI! Hope
26 DTWAGENT : I thought DL had purchase all of Western Airlines rights including the Name? If I'm right on this how did they allow them to name this airline that? O
27 AirCop : Nope, the first flight arrived from BLI today 1/19 at approx. 1600hrs. Xtra also had a 738 depart for GYY at about 1130hrs today also.
28 WestJetYQQ : No pics of this new carrier yet?
29 LHPDX : No flights to PDX? What's going?
30 AirCop : Guessing its the standard Xtra livery, just like Skyvalue.
31 NW1852 : Wasn't Western listed as the oldest airline in the U.S before its demise? I thought I read that somewhere years ago.
32 MtnWest1979 : I had planned on the first SAN-RNO trip, but they thought otherwise. And, no, I don't really care, but I wish 'em well.
33 Post contains links and images Lindy Field : Here's the first photo of the new Western, looking good in red and white! View Large View MediumPhoto © Matthew C. Lyons
34 Post contains images Srbmod : That's already been covered: Not too bad, but the location of the titles is all wrong, and the tail looks like they ran out of red paint. Perhaps a v
35 Post contains images Coronado990 : The tail reminds me of the old APSA (Aerolineas Peruanas) design... [Edited 2007-01-25 07:15:17]
36 PlanesNTrains : We must have flown a different Western Airlines. I mean, I did enjoy the alternating Yellow and Lime Green seats on the DC-10's, but I don't remember
37 WesternA318 : So very true... I bought a ticket on the first BLI-ONT trip, it was ok, reminded me of Morris Air though, the inflight service needs a bit more tweak
38 Post contains links and images WesternDC1010 : I'm in tears... View Large View MediumPhoto © Matthew C. Lyons Good representation of the 'Western-style' font, but the tail stripe is just sad.
39 Post contains images WesternA318 : Yes, like something based out of SLC??? With A318/A319's??
40 Post contains images WesternDC1010 : That was a good one! I wish I was more Photoshop savvy. That photo just screams out for a re-work. I would first get rid of that boring red tail, pai
41 JetJeanes : Im Just totally in Aww of all the destinations served. It appears they Utlize their jets to full potential. And the Websight is an industry trend sett
42 Post contains links and images SANFan : And here's the real thing... View Large View MediumPhoto © Frank C. Duarte Jr. The font is pretty close but that's about it isn't it? Sure do mis
43 WesternA318 : In my Thesis I had a photoshopped A318 in silver with the Bud Lite era fuselage W/stripe, and on the tail was an indian head from the DC-6 days... Th
44 Post contains links and images DCrawley : "SOUTHERN CALIFORNIANS gathered at Vail Field on April 17, 1926, to witness their first air mail flight performed by a fledgling company called Weste
45 YYCowboy : to funny, thanks for the chuckle. Bellingham International Airport???????????? Gimme a break. Whats the international component of this airport? Mayb
46 WesternA318 : Oops, I knew I had the date wrong when I posted it, my bad! I have to pull out my copy of The Only Way to Fly by Robert Serling again, its been a whi
47 WesternDC1010 : I miss everything about Western. I know the heritage lives on with Delta, but it just doesn't seem right that we don't have a hometown airline anymore
48 Post contains images FATFlyer : Its international because of all the Canadians crossing the border to fly Allegiant and now Western.
49 F9Animal : I agree, the tail needs to be fixed. Why don't they just dive in, and copy the old paint jobs? Old timers like us would enjoy it!
50 SkyHarborsHome : Is this the only 737 service into Williams-Gateway?
51 AirCop : No, Skyvalue brings a 738 into IWA twice a week, soon to be 3x. Operated by the same company that provides the jets to Western (Xtra Airways).
52 Post contains images WA727 : I welcome the new Western Airlines to IWA. IWA is slowly becoming the Sanford Airport (FL) of the Phoenix area. Without the UK charters, of course
53 ANother : Also Canadians heading for Reno, and the other points don't (yet) need a passport to drive across the border. That will last only for a year though.
54 AirframeAS : Also, U.S. Department of Corrections has a fully white 734 departing IWA as a prisoner transport along with some MD-80's. But Ive never seen the 734
55 SkyHarborsHome : Oh, I think I remember that now. Are they the ones flying to South Bend?
56 Post contains images WesternA318 : You call that substandard airline living out a grand airlines heritage? yeesh... I do wish them the best of luck. I just wish they'd change their bas
57 MtnWest1979 : That was Harbor Airlines (HG). Also BLI has customs, so that is what makes it an 'International' airport.
58 ANother : Thanks, I was having a seniors moment there. The service didn't last for long, as I recall.
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