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Any Reason I Shouldn't Take Air Canada?  
User currently offlineAio86 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 928 posts, RR: 0
Posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1712 times:

Hello,
My friend needs to fly from LAX to YYZ to visit a cousin in Toronto around Christmas time. Does anyone know of any reason why she shouldn't take Air Canada? The three AC and one American roundtrip were her 4 options all equally priced @ $350, yet the AC had better schedules for her. Plus flying the 767s according to Travelocity is about 30 min. faster than going on an American 737-800. Same thing applied for the 320 flights. I have never flown Air Canada (Although I have taken Canadian once before, and now that is AC so in a way... never mind) although I have been on my fair share of AA MD-80s and 737s. How is AC's coach class on their 767s and A-320s? I had no problems with American's planes,and I told her that it is a good airline to fly. Any comments would be appreciated.
-Aaron,LAX

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User currently offlineCPAir 4 life From Canada, joined Nov 1999, 209 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1587 times:

If I had a choice I would choose Air Canada.
You get the extra comfort of a widebody aircraft in a 767, the Air Canada flight attendants are generally very nice and attentive. Air Canada has nice interiors and it should make for a comfortable flight with the 2-3-2 coach seating configuration.
That is just my opinion, I have only flown Air Canada a few times, I usually go Canadian, and they were good flights.
Airlines in Canada sometimes allow flight deck visits if you ask, that might be an added bonus for your friend.

That is my 2 cents

 


User currently offlinePsa182 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1573 times:

Hello, how are you? Ive never flown AC, i live a long way away from you, but, i just wanted to tell you, everytime ive seen interior pics of AC aircraft, in magazines and on tv, they always look clean and comfortable. Their aircraft look lovely and clean on the outside, also. As i said, i live overseas, but, ive met Canadian people, and they are always polite and pleasant to talk to, which im sure would be the same for their aircrews. Send your friend on AC 

User currently offlineSlawko From Canada, joined May 1999, 3799 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1565 times:

If you are looking for quality service and nice leg room, then go with Air Canada they are the best in North America, but if you want to fly on a brand new plane, fly AA they just started Daily 737-800 service to YYZ from LAX.


"Clive Beddoe says he favours competition, but his actions do not support that idea." Robert Milton - CEO Air Canada
User currently offlineHmmmm... From Canada, joined May 1999, 2109 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1577 times:

The Air Canada post attracted me to this thread.

Yes, go Air Canada, overall the best airline in the world.

But PSA182 I'm telling you again, lose the handle. What kind of idiot would use the flight number of a plane in 1978 that went nose first into the ground killing everyone, for his nickname?

And you say you live overseas, then why does it say in your user profile that you live in the United States? But then you give your location as Tazmania, USA. And then as the kicker, as the punchline, you give your occupation as crash investigator, just like you did last year under the same name, PSA182, when you were exposed as Yousef Semain and then sent me sexually obscene e-mails. Forget about all the other stuff you did under HZ-AKF and a host of other names before Johan tracked your ISP down and blocked you from the forum.

Perhaps I should post those e-mails to the forum. Especially the one with your split personality from Yusef Semain to Andrew Horowitz.



Hmmmm...






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User currently offlineModesto2 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2819 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1537 times:

Definitely Air Canada. I flew them SFO-YUL back in 1998 and they were outstanding. I also got to jumpseat over half the ride, including the landing! The flight attendants were extremely friendly and curteous. And as already stated, you get the 2x3x2 of the widebody 767.

User currently offlineSamurai 777 From Canada, joined Jan 2000, 2459 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1525 times:

Go for Air Canada! While I have never flown on any of major US airlines, AC's level of service and legroom is said to be better overall. I have flown on AC several times, though I've mostly went on Canadian. Both of these airlines have been good to fly on.

User currently offlinePsa182 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1518 times:

Dear sir, i would simply like to point out to you, my name is not Yousaf whoever you think i am. and im not in the habit of sending obscene emails to anybody, so please do not accuse me of such rubbish. My name is Ben Clark, i live in Tasmania, Australia, and, here is my phone number so you can ring me to verify this if you wish. 0362720968, so, feel free anytime to call me. Im an aviation enthusiast, i chose psa because when i first came on here, i did not realise that flight number no longer existed. I know about it being the illfated 727, etc, but there is no offence intended. Thankyou for your time.

User currently offlineCaravelle From Norway, joined Aug 2000, 666 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1495 times:

As an "impartial" European, I´d suggest Air Canada whwerever possible in North America, but beware of code-shares, and try to avoid AC´s latest acquisition, Canadian Airlines. Most US airlines that I´ve flown has a level of in-flight service that leaves a lot to be desired, but not so Air Canada.
Canadian Airlines is another matter entirely, so tell your friend to make a point of finding out who flies the flight before ordering her tickets.

- caravelle



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User currently offlineYWG777 From Canada, joined Oct 1999, 1264 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1472 times:

Go with Air Canada. The service was outstanding and the food is very good. I got the jumpseat a few times with them for half the flight including the landing in YWG. I am flying AC to YYJ in December and I can't wait. Air canada is the best airline in the world!
YWG777 


User currently offlineLouis From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1474 times:

Never flown with AA before, but AC's 767's have excellent leg in coach room. Their A320s are a bit cramped. They're a decent airline (excellent on overseas flights, average on domestic and transborder, at least to New York), but I wouldn't go as far to say the best in the world.

User currently offlinePolaris From Canada, joined Feb 2000, 1149 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1461 times:

Go with Air Canada. Their North American service is of a higher quality than their US counterparts - including their Star Alliance partner - United Airlines! Yes, I have flown American, United, and Air Canada.

User currently offlineCPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4810 posts, RR: 23
Reply 12, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1451 times:

Caravelle, please explain your bad experience with Canadian. I have taken over 20 flights on them without a single complaint. Food, service and seat comfort are at least up to par, if not better than AC.

Doesn't matter anymore though...  


User currently offlineKlik From Canada, joined Oct 2000, 152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1437 times:

I can't understand why everybody suggests AC! I guess I've probably had some bad experiences which aren't too usual. I'd definitely suggest AA, especially since the AC take over of CP. AC are rarely punctual, and I've never had a "great" flying experience with them; their stewardesses are, on occasion, rude, and usually just ignorant. Ever since the take over, they've come to be known as quite the arrogant airline; coming up with dumb excuses for delays (have you tried calling AC reservations? look for a half hour wait). They took over CP just to be the "biggest", but a few years from now it will come to be known as the worst merger in Canadian history.

If your friend wants to enjoy some extra leg room, I'd recommend AA; with 38 inch pitch, it can't compare to AC.


User currently offlineGUNDU From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1433 times:

Try AC.


Gundu


User currently offlineHmmmm... From Canada, joined May 1999, 2109 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1440 times:

Air Canada is the best overall airline in the world taking in such factors as:

safety,
air crew competence,
maintenance,
cleanliness,
overall proficiency,
aircraft equipment,
route structure, etc..

Do they have the best on-time performace? No. Maybe Lufthansa.
Do they always have the best looking flight attendants? No. Maybe Finnair or SAS.
Do they always have the most ostentatious inflight service? No. Maybe Cathay Pacific.
Do they have ptvs in most of their seats?
No. Maybe Virgin.
Do they always have the most charming and responsive flight attendants? No. Maybe Singapore Airlines.
Are some of their telephone staff rude on occasion? Yes.

While Air Canada may not get to the very top of any of those categories, they do get high on the list. While, at the same time, toping out on the the more importance elements such as those listed at the beginning of this post.

All things factored in and added up, Air Canada is arguably the best airline in the world.



PSA182, please contact me via e-mail. You do not have an e-mail listed in your user profile.

Hmmmm...



An optimist robs himself of the joy of being pleasantly surprised
User currently offlineCaribb From Canada, joined Nov 1999, 1639 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1421 times:

I'd go with Air Canada. I fly them regularly and have always been happy with the service, food, leg room, cleanliness, punctuality, politeness, aircraft types etc.. Yes, you can get a bad flight or a nasty ground rep just like any other airline but overall this is a quality airline. Furthermore Air Canada (and Canadian Airlines) offers better inflight service and better meals than any US airline I have flown.. their A320s are particularly nice and I'd choose it over the 767 in fact. Their international service matches or even betters KLM and Air France as far as I'm concerned so you can't go wrong... however, I will confess I havn't flown AA so i cannot say they are not as good but I would take an A320/767 over a 737 of any model anytime.

User currently offlineAio86 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 928 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1406 times:

Thank you everyone for voicing your oppinions. Since the sales end tommorow I think that I'm going to suggest to her to take AC, since the majority of people prefer it. Sorry Klik. By the way I didn't mean to get an argument heated up over this (not directly related to the topic but between Hmmmm..... and Psa182.) Please feel free to continue commenting  
Aaron


User currently offlineCaravelle From Norway, joined Aug 2000, 666 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1410 times:

OK, in answer to your question:
First problem: Cancellations. Incoming from OSLO to EWR on SK, three of us were to connect with a Canadian flight to YOW. Flight was cancelled, and I understood from other queing pax, not for the first time. Canadian´s cancellations were in fact discussed in a TV talk show I happened to watch in my hotel room a few days later.
Not very helpful ground staff when trying to find another flight to Ottawa, but we were finally put on an AC flight to Toronto, and from there to Ottawa. AC staff at the gate solved the problem Canadian Airlines staff couldn´t: We even got our luggage transferred to the AC flight (it had been checked right through from OSL to YOW). The Canadian Airlines people at the check-in desk told us this couldn´t be done, Air Canada staff solved our problem with a short phone call.

On board service on our flight back on Canadian Airlines from YOW to LHR was disappointing. OK, so we were in economy, behind the curtain, but the McDonald-ish chicken in a bun and the packet of crisps they served made me wish I had brought my own food. "Breakfast" was not much better, a spongy omelet, and half a slice of ham.
I almost felt sorry for the f/a´s - who by the way were friendly and forthcoming!

Hope this answers your question.

-caravelle



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User currently offlineStratifier From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1398 times:

I flew AC YYZ-LAX last year (along with some other flights). I don't know how the legroom compares to AA, but AC is very nice. The amenities, so to speak, aren't amazing, but you're not going to start thinking they're stingy either.

Personally I like AC's cabin crew. Most of them seem to have this "we-want-you-to-be-well" attitude.  

Yea, CP services seemed to really fall behind towards the AC overtake, but from what I remember, their cabin crew saved the day.


User currently offlineCaravelle From Norway, joined Aug 2000, 666 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks ago) and read 1389 times:

- In my praise of AC, I forgot to mention.... Midflight Newark - Toronto an AC f/a told me she just had a call -we wouldn't be met at YOW after all, us being delayed for several hours. Ok, it's easy to keep track of people these days, where they're going and when, even if they have to be booked on another flight. All the same a nice AC touch, telling us our host could wait no longer.But Canadians being Canadians, on arriving Ottawa, our friend hadn't deserted us as all. Still waiting, saying it wasn't really that late.
No wonder we gave him a bottle of our best wine. But one should go to AC staff, too. Too late now.
Maybe next time.

-caravelle




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User currently offlineRed Panda From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2000, 1521 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1381 times:

I would say flying on a 767 is way better than flying on a 737-700 or A320. After all, 767 is a widebody thing. I've never flown on any AC a/c, but I think AC should be a good choice since they have a long history for flying to European cities over the Alantic. They simply know their way. On the other hand, I overheard that AC's services are sort of deteriorating a bit after merging with Canadian Airlines. Never flown on AA OR AC, but in my own opinion, I think AC should have more friendly crews than AA.

User currently offlinePolaris From Canada, joined Feb 2000, 1149 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1375 times:

Klik: AC did not take over CP "just to be the biggest". In fact, CP, and their partner AA, tried an unfriendly takeover of Air Canada. Air Canada, in order to save itself, had to eat rather than be eaten. AC was not interested in taking over CP. This was back about a year ago.

With regard to seat pitch, AA is only now coming close to the seat pitch offered by AC and CP.


User currently offlineCaravelle From Norway, joined Aug 2000, 666 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1370 times:

Most airlines should know the route across the Atlantic by now....

-caravelle



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User currently offlineKlik From Canada, joined Oct 2000, 152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1359 times:

Polaris,

Don't think that I supported the Onyx bid, for it intended to do the exact same that AC ended up doing, but it was ruled that the bid was unsuccessful due to federal regulations. Following that, AC could've let CP die a silent death, but no, they insisted on buying out its shares.

As for seat pitch, I've flown AC various times, and the seats were not anywhere near 38 inches apart, like AA now is. Of course, maybe you've flown on a different a/c; I've only been on the 767, 747 and A320, and didn't find too different from BA, AF, DL or BM.

Aio86:

As for your friends flight from LAX to YYZ, have you taken a good look at the schedules? Out of five flights a day, two are with the 767, and one of those is the red eye. Just a thought to consider, as the other flights are with A320s.


25 Red Panda : yep, I understand that every airline know their way to fly. But what I mean in the last message is just ...sort of like a slogan or sth..."they know t
26 Polaris : Klik: In order to be a good corporate citizen, upon winning the battle, Air Canada was encouraged to absorb CP in order to save its 16 000 employees.
27 AC183 : Klik, from the travel comparisons I read recently in the Globe and Mail, it stated that AA was increasing to about 34". AC was, according to the artic
28 Caravelle : Me being an amateur as far as Canadian flights are concerned, I just compared the two, from my experience. Intended no put-down, but to me, AC won by
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