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AC 767 Damaged In LHR Winds C-GGFJ/652  
User currently offlineLeezyjet From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 4041 posts, RR: 53
Posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 16978 times:

Yesterday an Air Canada B767-300 (C-GGFJ/652) was damaged by the winds at LHR.

The a/c was apparently swung round 25ft by the wind causing the forward fueslage to hit some equipment.

The a/c has sustained a puncture to the fwd port fuselage slightly bigger than a large fist, and also some scrapes and dents in the same area.


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The damage is located just above where the nose gear door is in the photo above.

I do have some pics of the actual damage, but don't have time to post right now.

Looks like the a/c may be stuck at LHR for a few weeks whilst the damage is repaired.

 Smile


"She Rolls, 45 knots, 90, 135, nose comes up to 20 degrees, she's airborne - She flies, Concorde Flies"
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User currently offlineCayMan From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 905 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 16867 times:

Those winds really must have been incredible to do that. Flying must have been something else?

AC is failry short of long range a/c I wonder if having a 763 out of the lineup will impact them very much? On the other hand if it had to happen I guess this time of year would be best time to have to have a 763 down.


User currently onlineCF-CPI From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 1047 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 16867 times:

The first one in the new sparkly colours. They're over two years old, and I guess it's time for a repaint.

User currently offlineCNZ3 From Canada, joined Mar 2006, 132 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 16786 times:

Has she been XM'ed yet? If not this could be a good time to do it.


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User currently offlineChrisA330 From Canada, joined Oct 1999, 630 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 16792 times:

Quoting CNZ3 (Reply 3):
Has she been XM'ed yet? If not this could be a good time to do it.

No she hasn't and on another forum there has been recent comments at awful state of the interior on this one.


User currently offlineYOW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 16747 times:

Looks like she was supposed to operate AC 889 LHR-YOW as YOW's FIDS are showing 889 as being cancelled.

User currently offlineQslinger From India, joined Apr 2006, 258 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 16747 times:

Quoting CNZ3 (Reply 3):
Has she been XM'ed yet?

what does Xm'ed mean?



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User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8541 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 16652 times:
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Quoting Qslinger (Reply 6):
what does Xm'ed mean?

I think it is a reference to the cabin upgrade that ACs fleet is undergoing - going by ChrisA330s reply I would guess that this a/c is not yet upgraded



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User currently offlineChrisA330 From Canada, joined Oct 1999, 630 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 16387 times:

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 7):
I think it is a reference to the cabin upgrade that ACs fleet is undergoing - going by ChrisA330s reply I would guess that this a/c is not yet upgraded

Correct - XM refers to the internal name AC has on the refurb. Project Extreme Makeover or Project XM.


User currently offlineCodyKDiamond From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 537 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 15559 times:

Flew on 652 on AC 916 a few weeks back. The interior is fine, not dirty. Hope FJ is back soon! Note: after landing at YYZ the power failed and emergency lights came on

User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4864 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 14085 times:

I was at LHR this morning and saw AC889 (LHR-YOW) cancelled, I assume this was the bird (or that the bird intended to operate 889 replaced the damaged one as YOW is usually less dense). I'm now waiting in the lounge in DOH to fly on to KTM but QR has delayed that till 4am with no explanation. Is there such a thing as too much flying? This A.netter says yes!

YOWza



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User currently offlineCOA735 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 202 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 13857 times:

Wow. how strong were the winds?

User currently offlineMrPorter From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 36 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 12811 times:

I saw a quick video clip on local news of an aircraft making a very interesting approach. I am not sure if this was stock footage or actual footage of an approach to LHR the other day in the hurricane force winds.


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User currently offlineZBBYLW From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 1982 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 12735 times:

Quoting CNZ3 (Reply 3):
Has she been XM'ed yet? If not this could be a good time to do it.

Unfortunately I dont think they will XM this A/C at this point in time. I believe they try and get this done at YWG and YUL (correct me if I am wrong) and the repair work would have to get done at LHR, so once it is good to fly out of LHR I would assume it should be good to go back in to service. If this is the case, it should be XM'ed once it goes in for a major maintenance and they have to tear the seats out anyhow.



Keep the shinny side up!
User currently offlineOlympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 11871 times:

Quoting MrPorter (Reply 12):
I saw a quick video clip on local news of an aircraft making a very interesting approach. I am not sure if this was stock footage or actual footage of an approach to LHR the other day in the hurricane force winds.

The one I saw this evening was an Avro RJ. I couldn't tell what airline. The plane appeared to be at about a 30 degree to the runway. I couldn't tell whether it was taking off or had given up on trying to land and was starting a go-around.


User currently offlineZBBYLW From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 1982 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 11334 times:

Also to the original poster once you get a chance to upload those pictures I would really appreciate seeing them.


Keep the shinny side up!
User currently offlineCessnapimp From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 1320 posts, RR: 20
Reply 16, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 10873 times:

Wow Leezyjet, I must compliment you on the choice of pic. What an awesome picture. So clear, and to think it was taken with a 4 mp piece of junk. Wow, must be an experienced photog.  

To those who are wondering which A/C are currently being XM'ed, there are currently 7 being refurbed at the same time, a record I think. 2 763's, 2 319's and 3 320's as follows:

B-763B
AC0632 19/01/2007
In progress
A-319
AC0267
23/01/2007
In progress
A-320
AC0206
23/01/2007
In progress
A-320
AC0209
28/01/2007
In progress
B-763B
AC0635
30/01/2007
In progress
A-320
AC0201
06/02/2007
In progress
A-319
AC0286
15/02/2007
In progress

[Edited 2007-01-20 05:36:16]

User currently offlineLHRspotter From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 182 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 8242 times:

Quoting COA735 (Reply 11):
Wow. how strong were the winds?

Up to 100 Mph gales.
I saw the AC bird on approach, it was a mid afternoon arrival, the winds were really strong but it didn't seem to affect air traffic. The damage must have occured shortly after landing.


User currently offlineStylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 2952 posts, RR: 12
Reply 18, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 7864 times:

the metar in FRA said winds up to 80kts in the night. now you can imagine how difficult it was to land a a/c safety.

User currently offlineBoeingFixer From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 529 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 6951 times:

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 18):
the metar in FRA said winds up to 80kts in the night. now you can imagine how difficult it was to land a a/c safety.

It's not the winds that make it tough unless it's a crosswind or gusty. Gusts in that sort of wind are another matter and make for a very hard approach.

Cheers,

John



Cheers, John YYC
User currently offlineJunior747 From Malta, joined Apr 2005, 21 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 6230 times:

Quoting MrPorter (Reply 12):
I saw a quick video clip on local news of an aircraft making a very interesting approach. I am not sure if this was stock footage or actual footage of an approach to LHR the other day in the hurricane force winds.

I saw a couple of clips in the local news yesterday regarding the strong winds in various airports, including LHR. I distinctly remember one of them was a Nouvelair A320 wobbling from side to side like crazy and a Cessna Citation being thrown all over the place. Both were attempting to land.

Regards,

Junior



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User currently offlineLeezyjet From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 4041 posts, RR: 53
Reply 21, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 4330 times:

Here are the long awaited pics :-

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r67/Leezyjet/DSC00095.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r67/Leezyjet/DSC00096.jpg

Sorry about the quality, they were taken on my mobile phone !!.

 Smile



"She Rolls, 45 knots, 90, 135, nose comes up to 20 degrees, she's airborne - She flies, Concorde Flies"
User currently offlineMilan320 From Canada, joined Jan 2005, 869 posts, RR: 11
Reply 22, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 4309 times:

Quoting LHRspotter (Reply 17):
Up to 100 Mph gales.
I saw the AC bird on approach, it was a mid afternoon arrival, the winds were really strong but it didn't seem to affect air traffic. The damage must have occured shortly after landing.

I flew in on a 767-300 from YEG into LHR yesterday (19th). We were warned that the landing maybe bumpy, but it was quite ok despite the winds ... or maybe they just weren't that strong when we were landing.
Wonder if it was our AC that was damaged later on.
Cheers.
/milan320



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User currently offlineMilan320 From Canada, joined Jan 2005, 869 posts, RR: 11
Reply 23, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 4305 times:

Quoting CF-CPI (Reply 2):
The first one in the new sparkly colours. They're over two years old, and I guess it's time for a repaint.

Oops I guess I answered my own question. Couldn't have been the one I was on as it was shabby inside ... I assume the ones having the new livery are nicer inside.

Quoting ChrisA330 (Reply 4):
No she hasn't and on another forum there has been recent comments at awful state of the interior on this one.

Then again ... maybe it was the one I was on.

Must be jetlag, I'm not reading this thread properly ... or I'm just  drunk 
/Milan320

[Edited 2007-01-21 01:49:03]


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User currently offlineLHR777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3958 times:

Quoting Leezyjet (Reply 21):
Here are the long awaited pics :-

Looks okay to me - those'll come out with a quick T-Cut and buff....  Big grin


25 Hmmmm... : Something doesn't make sense. Even at 100 mph gusts, it is more likely that something struck the plane, than the plane was rotated to strike something
26 BMIFlyer : Yes, you can. Lee
27 Dmanmtl : How difficult is it fix damage like this? Do whole panels need to be replaced or is there some sort of patch that can be applied? D In Mtl
28 StarGoldLHR : Yes it's happened many times A plane uses speed to put air under the wings and gain lift. The wind provides speed to put air under the wings and gain
29 Movingtin : If it is just a skin puncture, then a scab can be applied as an interim repair fairly quickly (24 hrs). If it damaged the underlying frame, then the
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