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Air Astana Goes 767 & A330  
User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 5694 times:

Read in the last Airliner World issue , Air Astana will receive 2 767-300ERs on lease and 1 A330 in the second half of this year.

The first 767 (Ex KLM , probably PH-BZK , but not 100% sure of the reg) will arrive at Orly in a few days to be painted in full cs.
Is the second 767 , also Ex KLM ?
Where will come the A330 from ?

In another way Air Astana will dispose of its 737 and 757 fleet.They already have 4 A320s , and will receive soon (if not already done) 2 A321s.

Future looks bright for Air Astana.........

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User currently offlineUzzzer From Ukraine, joined Dec 2006, 139 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5505 times:

Quoting FCKC (Thread starter):
Future looks bright for Air Astana

Getting hold of the a/c is just part of the deal. Air Astana is still far from the "western" operation standards as far as consumers are concerned. They have access to money, which is good, and they try hard, which is a plus. Long way to go though.


User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5425 times:

Quoting FCKC (Thread starter):
737

Air Astana feel free to give Southwest a call  wink 



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User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 5216 times:

Where will they send these WBs ? Asia ?

User currently offlineFCAFLYBOY From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 587 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 5203 times:

Quoting FCKC (Reply 3):
Where will they send these WBs ? Asia ?

London, almost certainly, as this is seen as one of their prestige routes with higher loads. It's also one of their longer flights, and popular with the post-Borat crowd now, it's seen as quite a trend destination!


User currently offlineAMSSFO From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 952 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4972 times:

From http://www.scramble.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?t=28318&highlight=astana

PH-BZI will leave KLM service 1st of January and will go to Air Astana early February.
PH-BZK will leave commercial service early March and will go to Air Astana early April.

They will be leased from ILFC for 5 years http://209.51.142.90/%7Eilfc01/viewArticle.php?id=96

nothing on A330


User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4963 times:

Not quiet sure on that status of Air Madrid's 2 A330-200s but those are two options.


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User currently offlineQantas744ER From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1286 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4895 times:

Nice to hear Air Astana getting the 763ER and the a330! When can we expect the first one of these babys in air Astanas colours?

Leo



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User currently offlineEZYAirbus From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2460 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4836 times:

Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 6):
Not quiet sure on that status of Air Madrid's 2 A330-200s but those are two options.

Audeli are taking those!



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User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4917 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4794 times:

Quoting EZYAirbus (Reply 8):
Audeli are taking those!

Will they be flying for IB?



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User currently offlineEZYAirbus From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2460 posts, RR: 52
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4747 times:

Quoting Humberside (Reply 9):
Will they be flying for IB?

They will be in IB colors operating routes like MAD-TFN and MAD-LPA etc



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9714 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4710 times:

Quoting EZYAirbus (Reply 10):
They will be in IB colors operating routes like MAD-TFN and MAD-LPA etc

So we will see the A330 in IB colors, very nice Big grin

A388


User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 4503 times:

I'd be nice if Air Astana introduces a nicer colorscheme with the widebodies, it has one of the most BORING liveries out there.

Air Kazakstan's colors were so much better.


User currently offlineAMSSFO From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 952 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 4178 times:

Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 12):
I'd be nice if Air Astana introduces a nicer colorscheme with the widebodies, it has one of the most BORING liveries out there.

Really; it's not that bad, I think:

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Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 12):
Air Kazakstan's colors were so much better.

and definitely not much better

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User currently offlinePilotaydin From Turkey, joined Sep 2004, 2539 posts, RR: 51
Reply 14, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 4164 times:

good deal, their A320s have trouble heading to IST sometimes with winter and reserve fuel


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User currently offlineLH648 From Kazakhstan, joined Sep 2006, 572 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 4126 times:

I think one of the WB for Air Astana will fly ALA-HKG, rumored after visit of president of Kazakhstan to China.

But others... Don't know. Flight loads are very pour on allmost all routes. May be domestic Almaty - Astana? Or upgrade for Almaty - Moscow?



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User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8280 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 4019 times:
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Given Air Astana flies as far west as LHR, a 767 is better then a 757 for such a long trip. This airline also flies widely to Asia, so they have two good reasons for wide body airplanes.

User currently offlineZakHH From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 3983 times:

Heard rumours that they may also introduce new routes in 2007 (though no details on destinations).

I remember LH decided to serve FRA-ALA with A300-600 soon, and currently uses A340 on that route. Could it be that 4L will get D-AIME? I remember that during their arguments last year, they agreed on a "closer" cooperation, which was the basis for LH to get their lost slots back.


User currently offlineBluewave 707 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3152 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 3938 times:

Good news for everyone involved. The people at 4L must be planning some sort of expansion. Kazakhstan is a growing country, and beginning to focus on tourism. They have a bid to host the 2014 Winter Games.


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User currently offlineChiGB1973 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1613 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 3894 times:

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 2):
Air Astana feel free to give Southwest a call

How many -700s do they have?

M


User currently offlineUzzzer From Ukraine, joined Dec 2006, 139 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 3878 times:

Air Astana should make a deal with Borat to improve its loads  Big grin

Business is picking up in Kazakhstan, as well as tourism, but the winners of the air race I think will be LH, TK and SU. At least for the higher yeld passangers.

Air Astana must become superb to compete, which will be extremely difficult without a sound domestic market. And I'm not even raising the political and managerial issues here.


User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 22
Reply 21, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 3849 times:

Quoting Uzzzer (Reply 20):
I'm not even raising the political and managerial issues here.

Please, what about the 'managerial' issues? (Let's leave the political for another forum)



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User currently offlineUzzzer From Ukraine, joined Dec 2006, 139 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 3818 times:

Quoting Stirling (Reply 21):
Please, what about the 'managerial' issues? (Let's leave the political for another forum)

Well, managerial actually assume political risks. If Kazakh PM takes the decision on type of fleet for Kazakh carriers (which was the case last fall), the whole industry is at dire straits, since no checks and balances available for quality business decisions.

Hardly managers have freedom from political influences in the countries where:
- democracies are not fully established
- politically engaged (originated) capital invested into major airlines
EK, I assume, few others may be a rare exeption.

I believe, both may be the case with Air Astana, as well as with many other carriers across the former Soviet Union. This does not mean though that Air Astana is not capable of becoming a great airline. Im saying that the odds are...


User currently offlineLH648 From Kazakhstan, joined Sep 2006, 572 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3701 times:

Quoting ZakHH (Reply 17):
I remember LH decided to serve FRA-ALA with A300-600 soon, and currently uses A340 on that route. Could it be that 4L will get D-AIME?

My old and lovely buddy D-AIME will fly for LX, AFAIK. I spend years inside D-AIME and D-AIMD  Smile A306 is only for summer, A343 is scheduled for winter 2007 back again.

Quoting Bluewave 707 (Reply 18):
They have a bid to host the 2014 Winter Games.

We are already out of the race. Only Sochi, Salzburg and PyeongChang are still in race.

Quoting Uzzzer (Reply 20):
but the winners of the air race I think will be LH, TK and SU.

SU is not flying to Kazakhstan at all.



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User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3670 times:

Quoting ChiGB1973 (Reply 19):
How many -700s do they have?

2, P4-CAS and P4-DAS

Although CH Aviation said that AB was going to take the -700s along with 1 -800. Why did they suddenly get new, boring A320s?



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25 LH648 : Well, I think because of company is 49% owned by BAe Systems.
26 Post contains images Uzzzer : Sorry, I meant Transaero. The diverted SU plane that I saw in ALA early December stuck in my head
27 Post contains images ZakHH : No surprise, seeing your username... I had my 2 single worst flight experiences with D-AIME, so I am not unhappy seeing it moved as far away from my
28 Post contains images LH648 : Yeah. But say hello to AVOD and welcome back to A332 with KLM and KL409 And it's even cheaper. The only problem is my bloody Miles and More card
29 ZakHH : Shows that a good FF program really has some benefits for the airline. But KL is a good alternative indeed. Cheaper tickets and better inflight servic
30 LH648 : And they fly only 5 times per week.
31 LH648 : BTW, coming back to topic subject. Air Astana in not more 4L. They are KC.
32 A342 : LH648, maybe you can answer my following questions: I've read they originally got the 757 because the runways at some airports in western Kazakhstan (
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