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Indian Aviation Thread: Part 41  
User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4860 posts, RR: 46
Posted (5 years 4 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 20173 times:

Paramount Airways of India took delivery of its fifth Embraer RJ, an E-170, and will use it to launch services to Trivandrum, Tirupathi and Vizag.

Has anyone flown this airline? Please share your experience. I plan to fly them on my next trip to India.

http://atwonline.com/news/other.html?issueDate=1%2F19%2F2007

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User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4860 posts, RR: 46
Reply 1, posted (5 years 4 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 20173 times:

Jet related news and interviews with executives.
http://www.moneycontrol.com/india/ne...to25m/market/stocks/article/262678
Quotes:
The management of the company says that their market share currently stands slightly below 30% in the domestic market. According to them, seasonally, the fourth quarter is not as good as the third. They inform that their load factor went up to 75% during the past quarter.

As regards their international operations, Wolfgang Prock-Schauer, CEO of the company says that they are close to the break even level, and that international losses are down to USD 2.5 million.

Excerpts from CNBC-TV18's exclusive interview with Wolfgang Prock-Schauer and Raja Parthasarathy:

Q: Please tell us a little bit about how the quarter shaped up particularly by way of increase in yields?

Prock-Schauer: This was a very good quarter for us; we had a bottomline improvement and posted net profit before tax of Rs 14 million and net profit of Rs 9 million. Also the topline growth was very good - about 35% increase in revenues; so we are going to be the fastest growing airlines in the world.

Q: Can you take us through the performance on the international routes? Are you profitable in your London routes?

Prock-Schauer: In our international operations this quarter, we are very close to breakeven and the losses has narrowed down to USD 2.5 million; so we are at breakeven levels and all the international operations, our SAARC operations as well as the Asean ones are profitable.

In London, the losses have narrowed down to a very small figure. And this is consistent with what we have always been saying; we will need something like eighteen months for our long haul flights to break even and that we have achieved in this quarter.

Q: At this point in time, in terms of tickets sold, how much is being given away at discounted rates?

Prock-Schauer: Our current tariff is 30% full fare and 70% discounted and we see this trend or ratio stabilizing at this level.

User currently offlineConcorde001 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1228 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (5 years 4 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 20167 times:

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 1):
In London, the losses have narrowed down to a very small figure. And this is consistent with what we have always been saying;

Wonderful news for Jet. It also seems that they are doing well on Amritsar-London; flights are going to increase for the current three weekly to six weekly from Tuesday!

User currently offlineAseem From India, joined Feb 2005, 2039 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (5 years 4 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 20122 times:

Quoting LAXDESI (Thread starter):
Has anyone flown this airline? Please share your experience. I plan to fly them on my next trip to India.

yes we do have couple of trip reports/reviews at www.airliners-india.net , here are the links

http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spa...?forumID=83591&p=3&topicID=9157195
and
http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spa...?forumID=83591&p=3&topicID=8418905

rgds
VT-ASJ


ala re ala, VT-ALA ala
User currently offlineHimmat01 From India, joined Dec 2004, 1011 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (5 years 4 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 20054 times:

Aero India-Bangalore
Aero India is being held at Yellahanka AFB @ Bangalore between Feb 7th and 11th 2007. The tickets are available at Forum Mall, Garuda Mall and major branches of Canara Bank in Bangalore. Tickets are priced at Rs.750.00. You will have access to the static display and the air show.

http://www.aeroindia.in/


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User currently onlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2766 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (5 years 4 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 20003 times:

Quoting Himmat01 (Reply 4):
Aero India-Bangalore
Aero India is being held at Yellahanka AFB @ Bangalore between Feb 7th and 11th 2007. The tickets are available at Forum Mall, Garuda Mall and major branches of Canara Bank in Bangalore. Tickets are priced at Rs.750.00. You will have access to the static display and the air show.

I was planning to go down - since almost all the contenders for the Multi-Role Medium fighter will be showcasing out there - The Gripen, the Super Hornet, the Su-35 (too much plane I think), the Rafale and the Eurofighter. The problem is that hotel rooms which already are near impossible to get have been completely booked out. I might still go as a member of the media, but will have to stay with a friend.
There was a rumour that Airbus will bring down the big bird but they aren't - that plane might come down for a tour of DEL/BOM/BLR in March/April though but Airbus isn't confirming.


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 30162 posts, RR: 61
Reply 6, posted (5 years 4 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 19953 times:

Quoting Himmat01 (Reply 4):
Aero India is being held at Yellahanka AFB @ Bangalore between Feb 7th and 11th 2007

If only it was a Week later.The Winter Fog schedule ends 17/02/2007.
Im sure the crowds will be good.
regds
MEL


Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4860 posts, RR: 46
Reply 7, posted (5 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 19915 times:

Quoting Aseem (Reply 3):
yes we do have couple of trip reports/reviews at www.airliners-india.net , here are the links

Thanks Assem.

User currently offlineOwleye From Netherlands, joined Feb 2006, 881 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (5 years 4 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 19897 times:
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Quoting Ammunition (Reply 96):
i would like to see a close up of the windows, it seems very minimalistic/hardly noticable

Ammunition, here is a close up picture of the palace styled windows ('old' livery). The palace windows will remain in the new livery. When you click on the new livery images below the images will be magnified and you shall see the palace windows as well.

Note: To be clear, Lila Design has not designed the new Air India livery. The estimate illustrations are here to visualize Air India's new livery as there are no clear pictures to find on the internet than the one at Boeing Field of Matt Cawby.

http://eu.airliners.net/photos/photos/1/2/6/0734621.jpg

http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/7/1/18/f_AirIndiaBi_7309m_c55d83b.jpg

http://www.liladesign.com/AirIndiaB772byLilaDesign.jpg

User currently offlineOwleye From Netherlands, joined Feb 2006, 881 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (5 years 4 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 19861 times:
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When you watch carefully the Air India window dressing, the window paint design must be inspired by Taj Mahal architecture, right?



User currently offlineSammyk From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1683 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 4 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 19838 times:
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Quoting Owleye (Reply 9):
When you watch carefully the Air India window dressing, the window paint design must be inspired by Taj Mahal architecture, right?

Inspiration is taken from palaces of Rajasthan.

User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4860 posts, RR: 46
Reply 11, posted (5 years 4 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 19828 times:

Expect a lot of turbulence on Chennai airport modernisation/privatisation.

PMK opposes land acquisition plan.
http://www.hindu.com/2007/01/20/stories/2007012007220100.htm
Quotes:
Pattali Makkal Katchi leader S. Ramadoss on Friday pledged his support to the residents of Pozhichalur, Pammal, Anakaputhur and Gowl Bazaar areas, who are protesting against the land acquisition scheme for expanding the Chennai airport.

His party would neither allow displacement of the people nor acquisition of land belonging to them, he told the people in the suburban colony. He said a new greenfield airport outside the city limits with elevated road connectivity was a viable solution. Such an airport could be built on several hundred acres of vacant land, classified as 'poramboke,' available in the Oragadam and Sriperumbudur areas.

Instead of handing over the project to private players, the Civil Aviation Ministry and the Airports Authority of India should build the new airport themselves. Stating that Chief Minister M. Karunanidhi would never take a decision that would harm the interests of the people, he blamed officials for providing false information and preparing wrong plans. "Be assured... we will not allow airport expansion in your areas," the PMK leader told the gathering.

His party would join their struggle if any "wrong decisions" were taken. The residents were not against expansion of the airport, but only against the manner in which land was proposed to be acquired.


Workers oppose privatisation of airport.
http://www.chennaionline.com/colnews...A-99C33A5A058F%7D&CATEGORYNAME=CHN
Quotes:
Workers of Chennai airport today sought the intervention of Tamil Nadu Chief Minister M Karunanidhi over the moves to privatise the airport under the guise of modernisation.

CITU president M K Pandey told reporters after attending a meeting of the Airports Authorities of India Employees Forum that the workers had already met Karunanidhi and urged him to stop the move to privatise the airport, the first in the country to receive the ISO certification.

User currently offlineStealthpilot From India, joined May 2004, 509 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 4 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 19745 times:

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 81):

The big question here isn't the issue of the gun but what the hell a billionaire like Nusli Wadia was doing on an Air India flight to Dubai?



Quoting Stealthpilot (Reply 83):

I hope that was a sarcastic comment Confused



Quoting Jaysit (Reply 87):

You're seriously implying that a flight on an old and dirty A310 is a preferable alternative to First or Business on an EK A332 or 773? Or a CX 773? Come on.

Not at all, I was wondering how you could beleive that someones choice of airline was more of an issue than if that person carried an unregistered fire arm on an aircraft.
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User currently offline15A From India, joined Jan 2006, 71 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 4 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 19697 times:

On Paramount, Flown them twice..one from Blr to Madurai and once last week from Maa to Blr. Very good airline (In my opinion, better than Jet)..though the quality of service has dropped a little since my first flight. Very good food - on a 45 minute Chennai-Blr hop where everyone else serves you a croissant with tea or something like that, these guys do almost a full meal with tea/coffee etc..nice new aircraft, good inflight magazine (no IFE though - but its not important given the short haul flights). if you live in chennai, its very very good as they have built an impressive schedule of morning-evening connections to all the south business cities.

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 30162 posts, RR: 61
Reply 14, posted (5 years 4 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 19678 times:

Quoting 15A (Reply 13):
Very good airline (In my opinion, better than Jet)..though the quality of service has dropped a little since my first flight.

How about Profits.
regds
MEL


Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2708 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (5 years 4 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 19664 times:

Quoting Stealthpilot (Reply 12):
Not at all, I was wondering how you could beleive that someones choice of airline was more of an issue than if that person carried an unregistered fire arm on an aircraft.

I saw the whole report on CNN-IBN yesterday, in that they said that Nulsi Wadia's earlier EK flight got cancelled so he shifted to the next available AI flight, and about his servant putting the gun in the bag, it is believed that the suitcase which was packed for his DXB trip and the one containing the gun were similar in shape and colour, which the servant screwed up.

Hope this clears things out and less end the discussions about freebies at AI and Nusli Wadias negilgence.

Karan

User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (5 years 4 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 19542 times:

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 15):
Hope this clears things out and less end the discussions about freebies at AI and Nusli Wadias negilgence.

Well, it all makes sense now. As I said earlier, what on earth was Nusli Wadia doing flying the AI A310 to Dubai?

In any case, has AI started "refurbishing/renovating/fixing up" its 6 owned 744s and 8 owned A310s or this just the airline's usual blather?

User currently offlineConcorde001 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1228 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (5 years 4 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 19503 times:

Here is some more exciting news regarding Jet Airways. See below of new routes to London and increasing load factors! ATQ-LHR is particulalry impressive - it has a load factor higher than both DEL and BOM!

Source: Jet Airways Investor Relations Presentation
Highlights

  • Jet Airways to begin LHR-AMD effective March 2007
  • London-Amritsar to increase to six weekly. Route has highest load factor from London !
  • Additional A330-200 to be added to fleet
  • International operations loss of $2.6m (down from $7.7m)


International Expansion and Developments



Load Factors on International Operations



Key Performance Drivers for this Q



Fleet Plan


I think this is good news for Jet - I think they will be profitable on their London routes very soon. I think it is great that are adding more routes from India to London; AMD should do well for them! I am also surprised at the success of their Amritsar flights.

[Edited 2007-01-22 01:39:10]

User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4860 posts, RR: 46
Reply 18, posted (5 years 4 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 19457 times:

Quoting Concorde001 (Reply 17):
AMD should do well for them! I am also surprised at the success of their Amritsar flights.

I hope they plan on connecting some cities--perhaps ORD and JFK--in USA through LHR.

User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2708 posts, RR: 21
Reply 19, posted (5 years 4 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 19409 times:

Quoting Concorde001 (Reply 17):
Jet Airways to begin LHR-AMD effective March 2007

Very impressive and a perfect route for the A330-200, i am sure this route will be one which has the highest yield,

Also another thing to be noted is that after DEL and BOM they chose ATQ ad AMD and not South Indian cities like BLR/MAA, very surprising indeed, maybe our South Indian critics will have something to say about this--OH WAIT i forgot they only criticise Air India.

Quoting Concorde001 (Reply 17):
Fleet Plan

Impressive, if you look at the fleet for Mar 07 ad Mar 08, it shows that they recieve all 10 B77Ws within a year, expect many more routes to be started from them.

Do their mention in the presentation if the 77Ws will have 3 class or will continuoe to have dual class layout like the current international fleet.

Karan

User currently offlineAKLDELNonstop From New Zealand, joined Apr 2006, 300 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 4 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 19403 times:

When does 9W start their

DEL-DUS-YYZ and DEL-HKG-YYZ routes and with what a/c?

Cheers

User currently onlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 2972 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (5 years 4 months 3 days ago) and read 19369 times:

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 19):
Also another thing to be noted is that after DEL and BOM they chose ATQ ad AMD and not South Indian cities like BLR/MAA, very surprising indeed, maybe our South Indian critics will have something to say about this--OH WAIT i forgot they only criticise Air India.

I don't think 9W claims to cater to the long-haul South Indian market (BLR/MAA) the way AI do. That's where the difference is - in that AI claims to offer "convenient connections" from the south (which are often anything but convenient or connections), while 9W is clearly focussed on their BOM/DEL-LHR sectors, and not going on about how they connect the world and save Indians stranded in Iraq.

Besides, 9W is very focussed (reasons best known to them) on their LHR operations, and are moving to the best unserved markets for LHR. BLR/MAA probably already have daily flights from BA (besides numerous Gulf connections), while AMD/ATQ still have very limited services and are virgin markets ready to be tapped.


Latest Trip Report - GoAir BLR-BOM-BLR
User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2708 posts, RR: 21
Reply 22, posted (5 years 4 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 19321 times:

Quoting Nimish (Reply 21):
don't think 9W claims to cater to the long-haul South Indian market (BLR/MAA) the way AI do. That's where the difference is - in that AI claims to offer "convenient connections" from the south (which are often anything but convenient or connections),

I dont think AI claims to offer "convinient connections" from anywhere, let alone from the south, I am sure they know how pathetic they are in connections. And i am sure everyone who has flown them or flies with them knows that before they make a reservation.

The fact of the matter is that people like you can only get their early morning cup of tea by pointing a finger at the national flag carrier just because it does not serve a particular route from your city to a destination of your choice--not looking at facts whether or not it can sustain the route purely on O&D traffic from the two cities on a year round basis and also looking at other prority cities and fleet strength before giving a route of your choice.

Whereas 9W is one which is smartly building its hub and spoke model around BOM and DEL as well as tapping new markets to LHR and perhaps USA.

Like i said if 9W ignores your city it is because they do not claim to offer connections ---how lame of a reason is that to defend and validate your point.

I am sure you will sight the example of a BA or an LH saying that look how profitable they are, but keep in mind they first fly you to their most logistically convinient hub from where they can take you onwards to wherever one chooses to go, and unfortunately for you at the moment though not a very good one it happens to be BOM

Quoting AKLDELNonstop (Reply 20):
DEL-DUS-YYZ and DEL-HKG-YYZ routes and with what a/c?

Probably A330s for DEL-DUS-YYZ and the 77W for the HKG leg as the 332 cant make the HKG-YYZ route non-stop profitably.

Karan

User currently offlineSnehnath From India, joined Apr 2005, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (5 years 4 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 19304 times:

Finnair to start flights to Mumbai starting June:

http://www.kauppalehti.fi/4/i/yrityk...kaikki&oid=20070101/11694501407680

User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 2834 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (5 years 4 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 19267 times:

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 19):
and not South Indian cities like BLR/MAA, very surprising indeed, maybe our South Indian critics will have something to say about this--OH WAIT i forgot they only criticise Air India.

Good one!!  Big grin

25 Post contains links PNQIAD: Jet eyes $400 mn via private equity Fair use excerpt: "Jet Airways is talking to several leading private equity firms to raise $400 million through qu
26 Post contains images Nimish: Actually you're 100% correct there. The only problem is that AI apologists never accept that fact, and keep harping on how AI is the "National carrie
27 Post contains images Sshank: That's a little like asking why they chose to connect KUL with MAA and not DEL. Because that is where the traffic is. South Indians have never had a t
28 Post contains links UpperDeck79: DEL-HEL will also be increased to daily with MD-11 and BOM will be 5 weekly with A343. SIN and KUL (not even started yet) will get the axe: Finnair T
29 Jaysit: Amen. Well put. This site is full of complaints on why AI doesn't have a non-stop Pune/Mangalore/Kochi/Vizag - Toronto/Cleveland/Dallas flight. Just
30 Post contains links LAXDESI: SpiceJet to begin Kolkata-B'lore flight. http://www1.economictimes.indiatimes...ore_flight/articleshow/1385552.cms Quotes: Private low cost airline Sp
31 Cricket: 9W executives are quite clear that their first two intercontinental hubs will be DEL and BOM. Simple market economics. BLR ops will start around 2008
32 Post contains links Concorde001: Jet Airways Appoints former BA Agency M&C Saatchi Indian airline Jet Airways is expected to appoint UK agency M&C Saatchi to handle its US $11 million
33 The777Man: I was at Paine Field on 20 January and noticed that the new AI 77L has a name; State of Andhra Pradesh. I guess the 777s will be named after Indiand S
34 Karan69: But facts cant be changed, it is referred to as the national carrier and i am not the first one to call it that AIR INDIA the name carries our mother
35 Mahan: Doesn't pointing out Air India's lapses in cornering market share from Indian cities which are making global impact count as a failure ? Afterall, la
36 AirbusfanYYZ: My home state... Sweet!! Cheers, Kaz
37 Post contains images Blrsea: The difference is in the size of the countries involved. UK/Germany/Singapore/France etc are quite small compared to India. USA and China are more of
38 Jaysit: Perhaps, but the Tata years were also the last time the airline had a stellar reputation, so harkening back to those times may be a way for the airli
39 AKLDELNonstop: Man thats a brilliant reply. Yes Karan AI is our national carrier and they present an absolutely stellar image of our country abroad dont they.
40 Sshank: Perhaps they will come up with a new livery and clean up that broken egg on their tail? A fine airline like 9W deserves a better livery. And if you th
41 CHI787ORD: I always thought SQ was the national airline of India.
42 Kmsyd777: As someone once said - Government has no business to be in business! Nehru, Indira, and Rajiv Gandhi lacked a vision when it came to commerce (I beli
43 Nimish: I've hardly ever asked for AI to start flights from BLR, I'm quite happy flying other carriers like LH/TG/SQ etc. But that's besides the point. When
44 HAWK21M: The Staff mentality would need to change for things to improve. regds MEL
45 Karan69: Because that is what makes the correct operational sense---look how miserable the day time departures to LHR are performing from AI/BA/9W---And also
46 Post contains links and images Nimish: Not quite true. I did a search for the words "AI" and "Nimish" on Civil aviation, and in my 50 latests posts there's no reference to starting from se
47 LAXDESI: Actually US has 700 million passengers per year relative to about 70 million passengers for India. I hope AI sticks to BOM/DEL hubs, and leaves the s
48 Karan69: No mate no one can confuse anyone with TexDravid he is in a league of his own, as for you most of the points you bring up are pretty valid but they a
49 Post contains links LAXDESI: Thread on Kingfisher. Any Update On Kingfisher's Long Haul Ambitions? (by PHX Flyer Jan 22 2007 in Civil Aviation)
50 Post contains links AKLDELNonstop: I think you are making the whole issue unneccessarily personal here. Ok fine you dont like sarcasm and want it straight then here goes. I have flown
51 Cricket: Sigh, the term 'National Carrier' was usually used to signify when a government owned a significant amount in the airline. AI like BA, AF, LH, JL etc
52 Jaysit: But if the GOI threw thousands of crores of Rupees paid for by the desi taxpayer at the Desi Kiwi like they do Air India, I'm sure he could do a bett
53 Post contains links LAXDESI: Non-metro airports to be offered in clusters for modernisation. http://www1.economictimes.indiatimes...ernisation/articleshow/1412065.cms Quotes: The
54 Sammyk: Hah, so true. Worst part is the passengers will treat the plane like it's an ST bus but they would probably never be caught dead on a real ST bus. It
55 AirIndia: Thats the great indian mindset... phir bhi dil hai hindustani!! Air Arabia is launching their IPO. The first govt held gulf airline to go public. The
56 Jaysit: You can't just blame this on the Indian flying public. Whether or not Indians act the same or differently on foreign carriers is immaterial. An airli
57 BigTom: How is S2 doing nowadays? Especially after the failed takeover. I remember they used to be pretty good, but the last time I flew them about a year bac
58 BigTom: I'm sure they will once the new a/cs begin arriving. In the meantime EK, IC, AI and AIX fly DXB-DEL while IC I'm sure does SHJ-DEL. Cheers
59 Karan69: Mate, i think you completely misunderstood what i was trying to imply when i said the following in one of my replies above to your response. "Mate if
60 Jaysit: Undoubtedly, AI would be a better carrier if it weren't burdened by GOI Babus, IAS officer-types, screaming Commies from West Bengal, and the like. B
61 Vimanav: I take offence for your excluding the commies from Kerala and our dearest Mamata didi. rgds//Vimanav
62 Post contains images Gr8Circle: How dare you leave out the Shiv Sena!!
63 Post contains links LAXDESI: Jet starts daily flights to Bangkok. http://www1.economictimes.indiatimes...to_Bangkok/articleshow/1427981.cms Quotes: Jet Airways, one of India's lar
64 PNQIAD: 9W plans 14 DAILY to Thailand? Little too much for being a new destination - no? I am guessing it is more like 14 weekly.
65 Post contains images Mk777: How is Eurofly doing on its flight from DEL-FCO??? Does anyone know how is doing regarding the loads etc?
66 AKLDELNonstop: Okay I see what you mean. Well obviously its a username and doesnt mean its ever going to happen. Mate even if I ran an airline I wouldnt start such
67 BlrBird: Kingfisher starts services to Hubli(HBX) IT started services to HBX from BLR and BOM with daily flights. HBX-BLR Dep 1455 Arr 1615 daily ATR72 HBX-BOM
68 Aviator27: Gentleman, I believe this discussion is getting out of hand. The only thing I can add is that I have flown Air India once and I will never fly them ag
69 Jaysit: Seriously, lets all be high-brow and go Merchant-Ivory on here. No place for any Bollywood masala. Besides, the babus, netas and commies (and lets no
70 Post contains links BigTom: AIX considering more aircraft http://www.marketwatch.com/news/stor...8CA-9F64-4C42-8134-F1751AAA4072%7D Cheers
71 Post contains links BigTom: Just posted by Carpethead Check out what is planned for this fiscal year at ANA. http://www.ana.co.jp/eng/aboutana/press/index_sm.html Daily all busin
72 Karan69: Mate if you look back at all the discussions we have had on these forums this is perhaps one of the most civilised one and "to the point" barring the
73 BigTom: That's what I was thinking too. Maybe ANA has a different crystal ball! Cheers
74 Karan69: Ofcourse that might be the case i am sure they have done a proper market research or perhaps signed contracts with the likes of Toyota/Mitsubishi/Son
75 Gr8Circle: Any further news on the possible new AI livery on their 777's?
76 HAWK21M: Very well put. Anyone aware when the 1st of the New livery painted AI B777s would arrive.Also whats the 9W Delivery schedule like on their B777s. reg
77 Jaysit: If AI is due to receive the first two of its 777LRs in February and March of this year, its surprising that (a) its website mentions nothing of the ne
78 Post contains images Mk777: I agree. Why can't AI hire the many software professionals available in India to update its really old website with some new and exciting stuff on it
79 Post contains links BigTom: Air Deccan Q2 net profit http://www.business-standard.com/com...leftnm=11&bKeyFlag=IN&autono=20038
80 The777Man: Jet Airways should have their first 77W by April or possibly by May this year. The777Man
81 Vivekman2006: Its a miracle that the website is still up & running today and has not fallen prey to the Y2K bug, hackers, college students playing pranks, et al....
82 Cricket: One thing about the LR's - are AI getting the auxilary tanks from Day 1 or will they wait for the removable auxilary tanks to be built?
83 Jaysit: Of course, I have a selfish interest in knowing if the 777LRs will be up and running as I'm going to India in mid-March. If AI have their 777s up and
84 Rocketman742: The 772 LR in seattle is all painted and ready to fly "BUT" unfortunately the bosses in the civil aviation ministry have decided to change the seats w
85 Jaysit: Oh do tell! What seats are they going to install? Did some "jari-puran wallah" salvage old seats from the AI 742s and offer them to some babu in char
86 Karan69: All 10 to be delivered between April 07 and March 08. So will the new bribed business class seats be lie flat or 160 degree incline. Karan
87 Manny: On reading stuff like this, it just wants to make you go and shake some of those leeches. So do they have to pay anything to the previous manufacture
88 Jaysit: So much for the high falutin' opinions of Shabhana Azmi, Maureen Wadia, Ratan Tata and other A-listers. At the end of the day, the D-list Babu with t
89 Gr8Circle: How can you say that on the basis of your opinion of the appearance of the web pages....Y2K was a programming issue and would have been dealt with lo
90 David_itl: News about MAN-India services as reported in the Manchester Evening News on 24th Jan: "Air India ran services to Bombay for several years, but there i
91 LAXDESI: I didn't realise it was going to be this soon. Any idea on how the different classes are configured(seat pitch etc.), and the no. of seats for each c
92 Post contains links LAXDESI: Interesting article on load factors and airline profitability. I suspect most(or all) of IC's profits come from the duopoly on the gulf sector. http:/
93 AKLDELNonstop: Are you certain about all this? Especially the bribery part. Because if you are then its really sad. Well I wonder what sort of seats they will get n
94 Cricket: One word - Elections - Second Wod - Very Soon. Money does have to be raised - it wasn't a D-list babu my friend, if money was given it was given to s
95 Subkk: That is impressive. It is only 36 Business class seats and 36 premium economy seats. I was reading up another thread here about this new config. Didn
96 Nimish: Makes sense, especially if the AI-IC merger does not go through. AI seems to be doing fine with the 738s to the Gulf and South east asia, and in an L
97 Jaysit: Yeah, but we as humans often forget that what's at the highest end of the chain are bacteria, fungi, viruses and the like. Sharad Pawar may be thief
98 Vivekman2006: My opinion was not based on the appearance of the website alone. It looks like you have never explored or used AI's website. You will be amazed to see
99 Nimish: If the speculation has any basis, Sharad Pawar is the big boss of the "NCP" - which is the party that Praful Patel belongs to. Though PP does look ve
100 Blrsea: Yup, have had the same experience. Also, it will display code-share flights in the result, but you can't purchase it as it will say that it cant quot
101 Aleksandar: I must admit that I'm impressed with Indian aviation, but I'd like to hear more about the possibilities of that AI-JAT deal. So far, we all know that
102 Jaysit: Actually, I've never had any trouble making a reservation on the AI website, but perhaps its because they make J and F class bookings easier than on
103 Manny: Its not the best site in aviation industry. But how can you infer that because of its poor layout its easy game for hackers, college students playing
104 BlrBird: Another side to this story is AI and CAM are still dragging their feet in finalizing the delivery finance agreement with Exim Bank. Financing for thi
105 Post contains images Gr8Circle: My point about your point, was best answered by the post below.... Poor layout and lack of information does not have any bearing on the vulnerability
106 LAXDESI: The 737-700ER, with nine auxiliary tanks, has an impressive range of 6300 miles, which should be more than adequate to cover BOM-NRT--a distance of 4
107 HAWK21M: Who will handle Mx at BOM for ANA. regds MEL
108 Cricket: Could be a range of carriers which fly 737NG - but given AI's linkages to the *A I won't be surprised if they do it.
109 Manny: You got that right! AI is practically in STAR Alliance. But when is the formal announcement. Question, does AI code share wtih OS on their Indian fli
110 Karan69: I have some useful information about the first informal flight also from him of the AI 772 LR by March- The first route is BOM-BGI---yes i said BGI---
111 Nimish: I don't think anyone on this forum has any concrete information on the tie-up or the plans thereafter. At least no one has shared any info so far. In
112 Post contains links LAXDESI: THIS THREAD IS CLOSED. PLEASE GO TO PART 42. Indian Aviation Thread: Part 42 (by LAXDESI Jan 27 2007 in Civil Aviation)
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