CPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4897 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (14 years 9 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2300 times:
The last MD-11 rolled out to Lufthansa Cargo earlier this year. However, it was a "Boeing" MD-11, which is sort of a contradiction of terms. There is also the Boeing MD-10. Boeing refers to everything as their own now, they even call Canada's CF-18 fighter jets "Boeing".
Its a shame that they didn't keep the McD name living on as a subisiduary.
Killjoy From Finland, joined Dec 1999, 646 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (14 years 9 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2232 times:
I think they're calling MDC the "Long Beach division" or something, but don't quote me on that...
I also think that especially the Boeing MD-80 is a disgrace to all things sacred (the MD-80 IMHO is the best jet MDC ever produced, and the best narrowbody of any manufacturer. Sure, the newer ones are more economical, but it's great considering its age...).
Anyway, it does make sense from a business standpoint (common name -stupid airline management). I don't believe, however, that Boeing is trying to bury MDC completely. A leather jacket I bought from them had Boeing's old and new logos (on the inside) INCLUDING the McDonnell Douglas, McDonnell and Douglas logos. Their plastic MD-11 model sports the name McDonnell Douglas on the fuselage, not Boeing.
Apparently they're just using "Boeing" whenever marketing tells them, and otherwise sticking to the old names. I may be wrong, but I hope I'm not, since in that case these "omissions" will probably be "corrected"...
Shinseki From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (14 years 9 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2212 times:
The MD80 was a nice design but MD's decision to farm out labor in the 1980's to China based on American made parts kits put a lot of nice folks out of a job. The machine tools McD exported were also invaluable to the Chinese for improving their military production techniques, and were the subject of a US Government indictment of McDonnell Douglas in 1999.
N766AS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (14 years 9 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2188 times:
The Boeing MD-11 (hehe), for example, is made in California at the Boeing Commercial Airplane Group's Douglas Products Division. The Douglas Products Division, though, will be closing in a matter of a few years as Boeing shuts down the MD line of aircraft. The Boeing 717, though, is manufactured under a different division, the Long Beach Division.