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Which Of These Has The Best Maintenance Record?  
User currently offlineSpeedbird747BA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 7 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2844 times:

Just like the title

The choices are:

CO
DL
NW
AA (American Eagle)

Thinking of booking a flight and would like to know.

Much thanks and Cheers,
Kyle

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User currently offlinePkbhx From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 5 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2837 times:

Personally i would go CO , Love them , but that is purely a personal thing.

Really dont have a clue about the maintainence records

Enjoy!

pkbhx



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User currently offlineSpeedbird747BA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2790 times:

Thanks Pkbhx.

I was thinking maybe CO?

Also Ill include FL in the choices as well.


Cheers,
Kyle


User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9310 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2736 times:

Go with DL or CO or even AA there the best


yep.
User currently offlineCOERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2721 times:

NW...look at their DC9s, many are in great condition despite their age.

User currently offlineNASBWI From Bahamas, joined Feb 2005, 1309 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2638 times:

What I'm kinda wondering is, what does their maintenance record have to do with the price of tea in China? Airlines' safety doesn't rest solely in the hands of good maintenance. Weather, pilot error, ATC error, and terrorism seem to be the main culprits in most (recent) incidents/accidents in any of those airlines' history - if, at all, those airlines did suffer any incidents.

What I'd be concerned about when faced with a choice of those airlines would be: reliability, service standard, convenience, pricing, equipment used (if you're a big plane nut and price is no issue!), etc. Not that maintenance shouldn't be considered at all, but to base your travel plans upon their maintenance record (considering they're all probably very good) would just lead you to a dead end - with the same four choices.



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User currently offlineSpeedbird747BA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2633 times:

Quoting Speedbird747BA (Reply 2):
Go with DL or CO or even AA there the best



Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 4):
NW...look at their DC9s, many are in great condition despite their age.

Ok Thanks for the recomendations. But there is a little bit of a discrepancy there. Oh well, thx anyways.


Cheers,
Kyle


User currently offlineSpeedbird747BA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2625 times:

Quoting NASBWI (Reply 5):
What I'm kinda wondering is, what does their maintenance record have to do with the price of tea in China? Airlines' safety doesn't rest solely in the hands of good maintenance. Weather, pilot error, ATC error, and terrorism seem to be the main culprits in most (recent) incidents/accidents in any of those airlines' history - if, at all, those airlines did suffer any incidents.

What I'd be concerned about when faced with a choice of those airlines would be: reliability, service standard, convenience, pricing, equipment used (if you're a big plane nut and price is no issue!), etc. Not that maintenance shouldn't be considered at all, but to base your travel plans upon their maintenance record (considering they're all probably very good) would just lead you to a dead end - with the same four choices.

I do agree with you to an extent NASBWI, however, many aircraft incidents are related to maintenance, or lack thereof, and that is one controllable factor. Pilots fluctuate and change, service will not always be the best, reliability wont come into play much here, however convenience and pricing do. Thanks for a good post.

Cheers,
Kyle

PS -- I wish I was rich so I could choose flts from equipment.  Sad


User currently offlineNASBWI From Bahamas, joined Feb 2005, 1309 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2563 times:

Quoting Speedbird747BA (Reply 7):
many aircraft incidents are related to maintenance, or lack thereof, and that is one controllable factor.

I can't argue that. However, your original question pertained to four specific airlines: DL, CO, NW, and AA (and their regional counterparts). Looking back on all four of their track records (with regard to safety), I can recall a few incidents:

NW - Recently, a DC-9 suffered a hydraulic failure (I think) upon landing, and was unable to stop before colliding with a parked A319. The A319 survived, along with both aircraft's occupants. The DC-9, sadly, was written off. In the late 80s (I think it was 1987), an MD-80 was lost on takeoff due to an incorrect flap setting. Also, there was a runway collision between a DC-9 and a 727 in DTW (can't remember when, but I saw photos of it). More recently, a CRJ of Pinnacle was lost on a ferry flight when the pilots accidentally stalled the engines and subsequently lost control of the plane. Maintenance played a role in one of those accidents.

AA - besides 9/11, an A300 was lost due to excessive force on the rudder, causing the tail to separate inflight. I believe AA and Airbus are still at odds over who's to blame; An MD-80 overran a runway in LIT during bad weather; A 757 was lost in 1995 in Colombia when the aircraft struck a mountain during its final approach; An ATR-72 was lost in 1994 due to icing while in a holding pattern (and another one was written off in SJU a couple years ago after a rough landing in strong crosswinds - no loss of life). So far, maintenance hasn't played a part in any of those incidents.

CO - recently, a pilot accidentally landed a 757 on a taxiway at EWR. Hardly a maintenance issue  wink . Besides that, the last major incident I remember about CO happened in the 60s, I think - and I think it involved a DC-9 and a Cessna. Or was it a 720? (Cue in backup from aviation historians!) Either way, maintenance did not play a role in the accident.

DL - Comair had a couple of crashes. One was pilot/ATC error, and the other was due to icing. ASA lost a Brasilia in 1995 (now *that* was a maintenance issue - the propellor separated from the engine). Delta mainline suffered an L1011 loss after flying through a microburst (back in 1986, I believe), and a couple years after that, a 727 was lost on takeoff due to an incorrect flap setting. Both of those accidents happened at DFW, and neither was related to maintenance (or a lack thereof).

That's all I can recall for now. If anyone can remember anything else (relatively recent) about these four airlines, please pitch in  smile . Point is, when it comes to AA, CO, DL, or NW, I really don't see much of a difference when it comes to maintenance and/or safety.

Now, I've never flown on CO or NW, so I can't tell you anything about what to expect inflight. But having flown on AA and DL many times, I can say that I'm probably more partial to AA. But the segments I flew were relatively short, and the service was essentially the same. Internationally, I've heard DL has totally revamped their product, but I couldn't tell ya. Hope that helps a little bit.



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User currently offlineCorsair2 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 248 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2366 times:

Working in aviation maintenance, I would say all of the airlines you have listed run decent maintenance operations with the exception of Northwest. I had an opportunity to see the NW DC-9 that went off the runway at MKE over the weekend due to a fuel control unit failure on takeoff and found that the aircraft was in very poor condition and exhibited a significant amount of structural repairs to the fuselage. Even one of their own mechanics made some off color comments about the maintenance practices on the DC-9. The aircraft I make reference to is N918RW which is 39 years old originally delivered to Eastern Airlines in Jan 1967.

Personally, AA sets the standard for maintenance in the airline industry. Many airlines go to them to get maintenance done based on their superior reputation. DL & CO are good too.



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