Sam1987 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 940 posts, RR: 1 Posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2664 times:
I notice on the LBA departures and arrivals boards that since midday, most flights have been cancelled or diverted; the last departure being TOM5993 to ACE at 11:28 and the last arrival being BD412 from LHR at 12:08.
On the BD website it says flights have been affected due to an "aircraft incident".
Can anyone provide more information?
Next flights: LGW-LBA-LGW, LHR-SIN-SYD, SYD-BKK-LHR, LGW-GRO, GRO-CIA, CIA-MAD, MAD-LGW
Capital146 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2125 posts, RR: 49 Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2563 times:
BD412, an A319 from LHR, had all main landing gear tyres burst on landing today. Came to a halt whilst still on the runway, causing all arrivals and departures to be halted for a number of hours.
RobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3932 posts, RR: 19 Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2536 times:
Have the timings changed? When I was a lad BD412 used to be the morning arrival about 0930 and BD414 used to be the dinner time one, or maybe it was just very late.
Ryanair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2477 times:
That must have been quite a cruncher, not as uncommon as you would think though to have a tire burst, although losing all four is quite an achievement to say the least!
BA787 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 8 Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2438 times:
LBA is a very uneven runway, with quite a big slope, i always wonder how easy it is to land on it, and i doubt it would be that difficult to cock it up
Sam1987 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 940 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2391 times:
Quoting BA787 (Reply 11): LBA is a very uneven runway, with quite a big slope, i always wonder how easy it is to land on it, and i doubt it would be that difficult to cock it up
Anybody know whether it was LBA based crew who were flying it?
Surely they would know how to land at LBA....
Next flights: LGW-LBA-LGW, LHR-SIN-SYD, SYD-BKK-LHR, LGW-GRO, GRO-CIA, CIA-MAD, MAD-LGW
Ryanair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2350 times:
Quoting BA787 (Reply 11): LBA is a very uneven runway, with quite a big slope, i always wonder how easy it is to land on it, and i doubt it would be that difficult to cock it up
Speaking from experience eh? When did you last land an A319?
Quoting Sam1987 (Reply 12): Anybody know whether it was LBA based crew who were flying it?
Nope, it was a LHR domestic flight. Its LHR based crew, not that makes a difference.
I spoke to the crew after a BD flight from LHR to LBA once, and they were all LBA based (all they ever did was the shuttle runs to LHR and the occasional charter flight via LGW).
I just wondered whether today's service was operated by crew from another base rather than the usual LBA based crew.
Next flights: LGW-LBA-LGW, LHR-SIN-SYD, SYD-BKK-LHR, LGW-GRO, GRO-CIA, CIA-MAD, MAD-LGW
Gkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24621 posts, RR: 58 Reply 15, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2255 times:
Quoting Sam1987 (Reply 13): I spoke to the crew after a BD flight from LHR to LBA once, and they were all LBA based (all they ever did was the shuttle runs to LHR and the occasional charter flight via LGW).
LHR based crew.
All LHR-EDI/GLA/ABZ/INV/MME/LBA/BHD flights are operated by BMI LHR based crew and a/c, despite what the LBA fans would have you believe
When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
Sam1987 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 940 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (6 years 4 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2126 times:
Quoting Gkirk (Reply 15): All LHR-EDI/GLA/ABZ/INV/MME/LBA/BHD flights are operated by BMI LHR based crew and a/c, despite what the LBA fans would have you believe
Are you sure? Because the pilots said they were LBA based and one of them even had a Yorkshire accent!
I was also reading a trip report on here a while ago from a BD flight from EDI to LHR and the crew were MAN based (they were doing MAN - LHR - EDI - LHR - MAN)
Next flights: LGW-LBA-LGW, LHR-SIN-SYD, SYD-BKK-LHR, LGW-GRO, GRO-CIA, CIA-MAD, MAD-LGW
Ryanair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (6 years 4 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2097 times:
Quoting Sam1987 (Reply 16): Are you sure? Because the pilots said they were LBA based and one of them even had a Yorkshire accent!
I was also reading a trip report on here a while ago from a BD flight from EDI to LHR and the crew were MAN based (they were doing MAN - LHR - EDI - LHR - MAN)
Yes we are sure, the above you have said would have been Embraer pilots based at LBA/MAN. These were Airbus pilots based at Heathrow which of course is where all the 319s/320s are based.
Sam1987 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 940 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (6 years 4 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2059 times:
Quoting Ryanair737 (Reply 17): Yes we are sure, the above you have said would have been Embraer pilots based at LBA/MAN. These were Airbus pilots based at Heathrow which of course is where all the 319s/320s are based.
They are Heathrow based, ok!
Still don't believe you! I know the aircraft are based at LHR, but there are two sets of Airbus flight deck crews based at LBA (hence BD Airbus aircraft often fly charters at weekends from LBA via LGW).
That's what the Yorkshire sounding FO told me anyway!
Are you telling me BD pay for hotels for LHR based crew to overnight at LBA every single night?!
Next flights: LGW-LBA-LGW, LHR-SIN-SYD, SYD-BKK-LHR, LGW-GRO, GRO-CIA, CIA-MAD, MAD-LGW
BrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3808 posts, RR: 10 Reply 19, posted (6 years 4 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2041 times:
Quoting Gkirk (Reply 15): LHR based crew.
All LHR-EDI/GLA/ABZ/INV/MME/LBA/BHD flights are operated by BMI LHR based crew and a/c, despite what the LBA fans would have you believe
As far as I know the crew on LBA-LHR are Leeds based. The aircraft overnights in Leeds, not LHR. BD420 is the final flight of the day that aircraft does, and its a LHR-LBA run.
I fly on this service regularly(BD 419) and the cabin crew are certainly LBA based, I asked them! Im flying tomorrow, so just to be sure Ill ask again, and also about the flight crew!
Brian.
Next flights: MAN-ORK-LHR(EI)-MAN(BD); MAN-LHR(BD)-ORK (EI); DUB-ZRH-LAX (LX) LAX-YYZ (AC) YYZ-YHZ-LHR(AC)-DUB(BD)
BrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3808 posts, RR: 10 Reply 23, posted (6 years 4 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1951 times:
I might add at this poin that my experiences of landings at LBA have not been especially pretty. Usually "positive contact" and lots of breaking, reverse, etc, etc. (AND if its FR a final dose of breaking to make the turnoff! seems to be SOP systemwide tho!)
The last time I arrived into LBA (on an RE ATR 72-201) we had what can only be described as a "firm" landing. The "were gonna need new gear" kind of firm. I know ATRs can be a bit "unforgiving" but this was "OMG weve been shot down"
Looking back I have to think it was the runway, as RE are usually pretty smooth (more cycles, more practice,I guess???). Even at ORK the landings are usually "kisses" rather than "thumps". Ive noticed that on longer runways(like ORK BHX DUB LBA) RE pilots tend to allow the a/c to float in order to get the landings right as the ATR stops pretty sarpish anyway!
That said, the A319 was either very heavy or hit the deck HARD to burst all four tyres?
Next flights: MAN-ORK-LHR(EI)-MAN(BD); MAN-LHR(BD)-ORK (EI); DUB-ZRH-LAX (LX) LAX-YYZ (AC) YYZ-YHZ-LHR(AC)-DUB(BD)
Ryanair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 25, posted (6 years 4 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1897 times:
Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 19): As far as I know the crew on LBA-LHR are Leeds based. The aircraft overnights in Leeds, not LHR. BD420 is the final flight of the day that aircraft does, and its a LHR-LBA run.
I fly on this service regularly(BD 419) and the cabin crew are certainly LBA based, I asked them! Im flying tomorrow, so just to be sure Ill ask again, and also about the flight crew!
Fair enough I stand corrected.
Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 23): I might add at this poin that my experiences of landings at LBA have not been especially pretty. Usually "positive contact" and lots of breaking, reverse, etc, etc.
You would usually find that is commonplace at any field with the similar length of runway that LBA has.
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