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What Fuselage Is This?  
User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7438 posts, RR: 50
Posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 8816 times:
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I drive by BFI frequently, and for a while i've wondered what fuselage this is, located along Marginal Way on the west side of the field? It looks like a door 3 frame of a 757. The paint resembles that of KLM, but KLM never had the 757, so i'm guessing this was a non-production, static test structure. Anyone know?



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User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3403 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 8823 times:

The elusive first production section of 787 barrell?

User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7438 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 8813 times:
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Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 1):
The elusive first production section of 787 barrell?

That's this



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User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3403 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 8786 times:

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 2):
That's this

 bigthumbsup 


User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12341 posts, RR: 18
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8668 times:
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Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 2):

Those doors are massive compared to the other picture, or is the first picture of an emergency exit? The windows also look bigger


User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3403 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 8658 times:

Quoting 777ER (Reply 4):
Those doors are massive compared to the other picture, or is the first picture of an emergency exit? The windows also look bigger

The doors and windows on the 787 are bigger than normal but not quite a big as they look here as there's a frame to plug into those holes before doors/windows are added.


User currently offlineOldeuropean From Germany, joined May 2005, 2091 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 8610 times:

Looks like a KLM fusselage. I first thought it was from a DC8, but the size of the windows doesn't fit. They were larger.

Axel

[Edited 2007-01-25 11:52:17]


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User currently offlineEHHO From Bulgaria, joined Dec 2005, 815 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 8573 times:

Quoting Jetjack74 (Thread starter):
It looks like a door 3 frame of a 757



Quoting Oldeuropean (Reply 6):
Looks like the front section of a KLM DC8.

Nah guys, it looks much wider than any of those two. My bet it's a widebody. Perhaps a KL DC-10? Look at those blocked windows left of the door, looks like a galley on starboard...

[Edited 2007-01-25 11:52:39]


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User currently offlineOldeuropean From Germany, joined May 2005, 2091 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 8551 times:

Quoting EHHO (Reply 7):
Nah guys, it looks much wider than any of those two. My bet it's a widebody. Perhaps a KL DC-10? Look at those blocked windos left of the door, looks like a galley on starboard...

Yes, could be a DC10.


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But for a DC10, aren't the windows to large?

Axel



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User currently offlineN747PA From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 56 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 8413 times:

Could it be a 757-300? If you look closely at the ATA photo, you see a production break 5 windows aft of the door.


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User currently offlineOldeuropean From Germany, joined May 2005, 2091 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 8348 times:

Quoting N747PA (Reply 9):
Could it be a 757-300? If you look closely at the ATA photo, you see a production break 5 windows aft of the door.

I don't think so. These are KLM colors.

Axel



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User currently offlineOldeuropean From Germany, joined May 2005, 2091 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 8292 times:

Uups, after searching the photo data base it looks that it isn't KL. The white line ist too wide for KL colors.

Axel

[Edited 2007-01-25 15:37:29]


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User currently offlineLifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1940 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 8251 times:

It isn't a DC-10. If it was, there would be a white outlining of the doors. Also, a DC-10 door (looking at the KLM DC-10 picture) is higher and comes more in the light blue area.

I first thought that it could be a part of PH-BTC, a B737-406 which suffered damage beyond repair at Barcelona in 2005. However, looking at those pictures I can't seem to fix this piece into that...

So, maybe it's a fake piece of fuselage?

Cheers!  wave 



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User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3985 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 8095 times:

I don't think its KLM either... the grey underbelly is too low down in this photo...

User currently offlineMorvious From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 707 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 7972 times:

It is not KLM for shure!

If I am correct it is a test fuselage (part) for painting. Ive seen it before around these forums.



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User currently offlineBeech19 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 936 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 7883 times:

Quoting Jetjack74 (Thread starter):
I drive by BFI frequently, and for a while i've wondered what fuselage this is, located along Marginal Way on the west side of the field?

Given that its at BFI i would assume its either a 737 or 757 fuse section.

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 2):
That's this

THAT is not a production fuse for the 787... that is a test barrel (two joined together actually).



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User currently offlineMagyarorszag From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 7854 times:

Quoting Oldeuropean (Reply 8):
Yes, could be a DC10.

Of all the DC-10s that have been used by KLM, none were broken up while wearing KL livery. All went to another airline.

Cheers.


User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7438 posts, RR: 50
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 7799 times:
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Quoting Beech19 (Reply 15):
THAT is not a production fuse for the 787... that is a test barrel (two joined together actually).

Yeah I know, but just posted that in response to a previous thread.



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User currently offlineSkytony From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 145 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 7707 times:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0756434/L/ Maybe a test painting but does anyone think its a jet escape for a 767?


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User currently offlineBeech19 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 936 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 7617 times:

Quoting Skytony (Reply 18):
Maybe a test painting but does anyone think its a jet escape for a 767?

You may have it here actually... Boeing broke up one of the first(i beleive it was the first) 767 to use in various peices for various things.
The forward fues/section 41 peice is at the Future Of Flight outside. The Wingstub/Center tank and Right wing is at the ERC Training facility near Boeing and this looks to be a peice (same exact paint that is on the Wing stub section) from that aircraft.
Considering that Jersey barriers are 3ft tall so that fence would be about 9ft or so.

It COULD be a 767... i'll be down there tomorrow so i'll check it out.  Smile



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User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7438 posts, RR: 50
Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 7326 times:
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Quoting Beech19 (Reply 19):
It COULD be a 767... i'll be down there tomorrow so i'll check it out

It's a narrowbody, i'm positive of that.



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User currently offlineCFTOA From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 6904 times:

I am almost 100% sure that this fuselage section is that of a 757. One thing I always noticed when traveling on them, is the very narrow exits and emergency hatches. The windows also seem to match that of a 757.

Cheers.


User currently offlineCessna057 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 439 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 6734 times:

Looks like the aft section to the 753...

[Edited 2007-01-26 01:51:45]


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User currently offlineSkytony From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 145 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 6189 times:

If not a 767? Maybe the jet escape for the new 737-900 ER?


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User currently offlineHeavy747 From Canada, joined Mar 2000, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 5897 times:

Could it possibly be a section of an old 707? If memory serves me right, they had a rather small emergency exit.

Andrew



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25 Vasu : I can't imagine they'd have broken up a 753!
26 NorthstarBoy : didn't kl phase out their 8 door 763s recently? i'm wondering if it could be part of one of those?
27 Access-Air : Could the 12385 be the construction number of the aircraft??? Looks to me like it might be from a DC10...of course there is a section where this could
28 Flighttester : It is a paint test section. The thing is constantly changing colors. Boeing uses it to test paint colors and schemes prior to painting the real thing.
29 JetJeanes : Judgeing by the doors a Klm Dc-10.
30 Beech19 : Where on a 747 could that peice fit? Its almost half the width of a 747...
31 LTU932 : No. The door is too small. I guess it is a 767, because of the door. I don't know which type of door that is, but it's definitely more or less the sa
32 Post contains links and images LTU932 : I found the picture in question, although it's not from BFI, but from PAE. Sorry for the doublepost, but to avoid editing my post, here it is: View La
33 Beech19 : Someone at Boeing BFI please correct me if i'm wrong as i'm at Everett... but last time i checked i was pretty sure BFI didn't have a paint bay large
34 Post contains links and images LTU932 : View Large View MediumPhoto © Julian GarciaUnless I'm mistaken in my interpretation of this picture, this looks like a widebody paintshop at BFI
35 Pygmalion : That chunk of fuse I believe is a 767 but for sure it is a paint test. The airplane chunks are leftovers from the early eighties and the static and fa
36 Jetjack74 : Never said that. I think it's a 757. It's not a widebody, it's a narrowbody for sure, A 757. But my question was is this a part of a scrapped airfram
37 Cessna057 : It cant be a jet escape guys this an old piece of an airplane. Look at the picture of the 787 jetescape and look at how nice it looks and then look at
38 Vasu : The answer's already been found... It was part of a 767
39 Post contains images Beech19 : Hm... that picture certainly is showing a widebody in a paintshop... i'm doing more investigation. Buildings 3-369 and 3-380 at Boeing Field are pain
40 HAWK21M : Anyone can get a side on View of the same. regds MEL
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