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Atrevete Venezuela! Venezuela Aviation Thread I  
User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2003 posts, RR: 16
Posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7941 times:

Expropriation of airports, a state-owned airline and still a lot of private investment....

Venezuela has so many airlines an a dynamic development. Finally I decided to start this in order to have a dedicated space for discussions about this great country.

The moderators of this forums need to understand a bit that there might be some postings „off-topic“ so „non-av“ but the circumstances might require some background postings. So I kindly ask not to delete those comments in order to make this overview of Venezuelan aviation complete.

In relation to the number of inhabitants, Venezuela is one of the countries with the most commercial airlines in the world.. And here you go:

The still biggest airline in Venezuela is Aeropostal:

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Aeropostal operates about 25 DC-9 and MD83 to the most important domestic destinations and international to Miami, Port of Spain, Bogotá, Medellín, Habana, Sto. Domingo, Puerto Plata, Lima, Aruba and Curaçao.
Latest news: Attempts of signing a codeshare with Iberia to operate European destinations.
http://www.aeropostal.com

In my opinion No. 2: Santa Barbara Airlines

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SBA operates a 757 and a couple of ATRs and Cessna Caravan. In addition ACMI of 2 767 and one 757.
Latest news: Intents to put some 737 into service for BOG and MAR.
http://www.sb-airlines.com

A nice domestic network: Aserca Airlines

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Operates about 15 DC9-30 on domestic routes and charter services to the Caribbean (e.g. SDQ, PUJ and SXM).
No recent news ?
http://www.asercaairlines.com

Number 4 maybe: Avior

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Operates 5 737 and 10 Beech 1900 to domestic destinations out of their hub BLA. International routes from BLA to Miami and from CCS to AUA/CUR and from PMV to POS. Charter services to the Caribbean.
Intents to start CCS-MIA with 737-800.
http://www.avior.com.ve

More to follow......

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User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2003 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7940 times:

And the state-owned Conviasa:

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Operates some 737-200 and ATR42 as well as 1 Dash-7. Mainly domestic network with „social“ charters to other Latinamerican countries.
http://www.conviasa.aero


User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2003 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7936 times:

The Margarita-Shuttle: Laser Airlines

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Operates 1 DC9-30. They have 2 further DC 9 std in CCS. Operating 4-6 daily CCS-PMV flights.
http://www.laser.com.ve

[Edited 2007-01-25 22:17:59]

User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2003 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7937 times:

La Vinotinto: Rutaca

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Operates 4 732 and some Cessna Caravan to domestic destinations such as Ciudad Bolivar (CBL), San Antonio (SVZ), PMV and PZO as well as charter for the national soccer team (Vinotinto).
http://www.rutaca.com.ve


User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2003 posts, RR: 16
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7937 times:

The unknown newcomer: Venezolana

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Operate 1 732. They also have 1 J41 and are supposed to recieve 3 more 732 and 9 more J41. Recently started operating CCS-MAR 4x daily. They seem to be linked to the government somehow.
http://www.ravsa.com.ve


User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2003 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7937 times:

Do they still exist? LAI

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The used to operate 2xATR 72. Currently shut down. Someone knows what is going on ?


User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2003 posts, RR: 16
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7937 times:

The tourism airline: LTA - Aerotuy

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Formerly the most important touristic airline operating Dash 7 and Cessna Carvan. Currently operating only a few services to Los Roques and Canaima from Porlamar.

[Edited 2007-01-25 22:18:54]

User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2003 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7929 times:

Also tourism: SASCA

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Operate two Cessna Caravan and a Beech 1900. Mainly from PMV to Tucupita and Canaima.
http://www.sasca.com.ve

I am curious to get more information about aircraft, routes and new developments....


User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2003 posts, RR: 16
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7913 times:

Sorry, correct link to Santa Barbara Airlines homepage :
http://www.santabarbaraairlines.com


User currently offlineAbrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5014 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7910 times:

Great to see a a VZ aviation thread. Lets stick to aviation though.

Cheers,
A.



Live, and let live.
User currently offlineCayMan From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 905 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7905 times:

Excellente Chiguire--lots of great info to start this thread thanks for the data.

I have the folloiwng comments/questions:

(1) Santa Barbara have really built themselves up in recent years. I remember when they flew mostly from CCS to Merida, trujillo etc and had only the ATRs. Now of course they are a good sized intl player and operate the 757s and the 767s. But why have they never started a service into PMV or anywhere 'oriental'--the east of the country? Now that they must be looking to feed their intl routes it would make sense to have seamless travel on SBA from say PMV to MAD or MIA on omne ticket. is there some reason they cannot enter the PMV market?

(2) Aserca does have a nice domestic network now, and I find they have been very competitive on price, especially on PMV CCS. I travel PMV CCS a lot in order to connect on to intl flights. Any plans to modernize fleet at all if possible?

(3) Avior has been very good, but I do not understand why they operate the Beach 1900s PMV CCS. Are the 732s so occupied they could not be used to do one or two cycles on this route. I think it will be difficult for Avior to compete on PMV CCS with the 1900s, which are a much longer flight PMV CCS, no lavatory, loud--all things considered jet service is much preferred. And Avior is often most expensive on PMV CCS, although they do have first flight out in am.

(4) Why do all the airlines Chiguire listed seem to operate PMV CCS flights at more or less same deaprture times? It seems that so many of those airlines leave at around same time, you would think it would be more competitive to spread out the departure a little bit.

(5) As an intl traveler in and out of PMV a lot (almost always via CCS)--I cannot undersatnd why at least one of the airlines flying CCS PMV have not offered one late or fairly late night departure CCS PMV in order to catch the last intl flights in, especially the later flights from MIA. I realize that there would not be a huge market for a late departure but I would think that if one or the above airlines put one flight, a DC9 or a 732 etc on a CCS PMV dep at say 1030 or 11PM, there would be enough O&D traffic from CCS area plus the intl pax who have arrived late. It is so frustrating to arrive at 6 or 7PM on an intl flight and be too late to catch the last flight over to PMV. I think there is a market for this is somebody chooses to take it.


User currently offlineCayMan From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 905 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7898 times:

Quoting Abrelosojos (Reply 9):
Great to see a a VZ aviation thread. Lets stick to aviation though

As Chiguire pointed out correctly, so much of what is going on in Vzla, including aviation policy or lack thereof, is political so for purposes of this thread you cannot separate the two to some degree. Sorry Hugo, this is not RCTV you can't pull the plug because you don't like the way your face looks!


User currently offlineRootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4186 posts, RR: 41
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7899 times:

A bit of nostalgy here !



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User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2003 posts, RR: 16
Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7892 times:

Quoting CayMan (Reply 10):
But why have they never started a service into PMV or anywhere 'oriental'--the east of the country?

Maybe competition ? To PMV they use "8Z" Laser codeshare. So you can book PMV from MAD but flying Laser. I would say that this is a better solution as they can stay away from the competition.

Quoting CayMan (Reply 10):
Aserca does have a nice domestic network now, and I find they have been very competitive on price, especially on PMV CCS. I travel PMV CCS a lot in order to connect on to intl flights. Any plans to modernize fleet at all if possible?

I don't think so ! As far as I know they will be getting more DC9-30. A kind of Venezuelan Aerocalifornia !

Quoting CayMan (Reply 10):
And Avior is often most expensive on PMV CCS, although they do have first flight out in am.

They have reduced the frequencies on CCS-PMV, now operating mostly the 732.

Quoting CayMan (Reply 10):
Why do all the airlines Chiguire listed seem to operate PMV CCS flights at more or less same deaprture times? It seems that so many of those airlines leave at around same time, you would think it would be more competitive to spread out the departure a little bit.

Not sure about that....just look at around 19:30....Conviasa, Aserca, Laser, Aeropostal.....all to provide connections to ever increasing European demand.
Aeropostal now changed to 18:15h...great move as this is the best option from Europe now.


User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2003 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 7887 times:

Quoting RootsAir (Reply 12):
A bit of nostalgy here !

You make me cry ! I wanted to avoid this.......

After so many years VIASA is still the airline I had the most flights...imagine !


User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2003 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 7879 times:

Another touristic airline: Comeravia


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http://www.comeravia.com.ve
A bit unreliable....


User currently offlineRootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4186 posts, RR: 41
Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 7875 times:

Quoting Chiguire (Reply 14):

After so many years VIASA is still the airline I had the most flights...imagine !

that's impressive!

Well there couldn't be a Venezuelan thread without mentioning VIASA...ah I would have loved to fly them !



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User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2003 posts, RR: 16
Reply 17, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 7875 times:

The best option to Los Roques paradise:

Transaven

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User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2003 posts, RR: 16
Reply 18, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 7874 times:

Quoting RootsAir (Reply 16):

Well there couldn't be a Venezuelan thread without mentioning VIASA...ah I would have loved to fly them !

You missed something awesome !


User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2537 posts, RR: 31
Reply 19, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 7873 times:

Quoting Chiguire (Thread starter):
Venezuela has so many airlines an a dynamic development. Finally I decided to start this in order to have a dedicated space for discussions about this great country.

Great thread starter Chiguire, excellent posts as usual.

Quoting CayMan (Reply 10):
Now of course they are a good sized intl player and operate the 757s and the 767s. But why have they never started a service into PMV or anywhere 'oriental'--the east of the country? Now that they must be looking to feed their intl routes it would make sense to have seamless travel on SBA from say PMV to MAD or MIA on omne ticket. is there some reason they cannot enter the PMV market?

Santa Barbara flies to Cumaná which is only served by Avior and SBA. They send the largest aircraft that Cumaná gets. Flights are timed for MIA, UIO, MAD connections.

SBA is very smart to stay out of crowded markets where competition is too fierce, that's why they've been successful. The almost near monopolies in MAR-AUA, LSP-CCS, VLN-MAR, CCS-CUM, CCS-MRD give them great yields. BRM-CCS is the route where they face the most competition.

Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis


User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 7867 times:

About Linea Aerea IAACA.
Seems not to exist anymore.
- ATR72 YV1929 (ex YV-1004C) has been ferried to Brindisi on Dec20th
- ATR72 YV-1073C (has not been reregistered) , has been repossessed by ATR , but seems not yet ferried to Europe.

Probably this is the end of the road for L.A IAACA

In another way , despite it will NOT go to Conviasa , the A340 is always stored at Orly in full cs.


User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2003 posts, RR: 16
Reply 21, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 7867 times:

Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 19):
Saludos desde Caracas,

Gracias por cambiar esto !


User currently offlineAbrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5014 posts, RR: 55
Reply 22, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 7868 times:

Quoting CayMan (Reply 11):
political so for purposes of this thread you cannot separate the two to some degree.

= However, this is an aviation forum and creating loopholes is a slippery slope.

Cheers,
A.



Live, and let live.
User currently offlineJD747 From Spain, joined Nov 2006, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 7863 times:

Quoting Chiguire (Reply 17):
The best option to Los Roques paradise:

Transaven

Hey my wife is from Venezuela and she promised me that we will go there the next time we go to Venezuela so I guess that sould be the airline  

[Edited 2007-01-25 23:04:15]


Juan D.
User currently offlineChicagoFlyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 272 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 7852 times:

Can anyone elaborate on the recent acceptance of Venezuela as a 'safe' country for aviation by the US govt?

Per the State dept web site

Quote:
The U.S. Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) has assessed the Government of Venezuela as being in compliance with ICAO international aviation safety standards for the oversight of Venezuela’s air carrier operations.

From what I understand the Venezuelan carriers can now fly into the US relatively more easily--now have any of them taken advantage since agreed to by the USA?


25 Chiguire : Avior started BLA-MIA on 4xweekly basis, Santa Barbara is operating YV-registrated aircraft as well as Aeropostal now. Aeropostal is planning to star
26 Lamedianaranja : Just announced: the Pan Caribbean Alliance! A very close cooperation between 4 airlines: Conviasa (Venezuela), Insel Air (Curacao), Surinam Airlines a
27 Chiguire : Is this April 1st ? Or why did those 4 blind come together ? Can I fly on a Conviasa flight No. St. Maarten St. Baths ? Or Paramaribo-Port of Spain ?
28 Post contains links Lamedianaranja : In Dutch: http://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/news/?ID=18305
29 797 : My friend Chiguire, great thing to start this thread! Venezuela is undergoing a very difficult moment and aviation has been directly influenced by all
30 Chiguire : So SLM flies AMS-PBM...an connects to.......? CUR =? I am not very confident that this "alliance" could work. I don' t see enough potential within th
31 Post contains links Lamedianaranja : Please remember her always, with fondness and melancholy, it's been hard these past days, I know. Just 2 days ago, on January 23, we remembered Viasa
32 Post contains images Chiguire : They started big...with some aggressive offers and routes....but I guess they had to admit that private competition is (still) much too strong. So th
33 Post contains images Chiguire : " target=_blank>http://te.acuerdas.de/comercial-de-v...a/101 Thank you for making me cry ! This is really hard.....remembering the only real airline t
34 SAS-A321 : Nice thread! I was in Venezuela for 3½ months one year ago and I must say that I love the country! I flew with Aserca from Maracaibo to Caracas. The
35 Chiguire : How did you come to Venezuela ? With a charter ? Or LH via FRA ?
36 SAS-A321 : I flew out: BLL-CPH-FRA with Cimber/SAS (ATR42/MD80) FRA-CCS with Lufthansa A340-300 CCS-Las Piedras with Santa Barbara ATR42 and flew back: MAR-CCS w
37 SAS-A321 : I noticed when I was out fueling a car, that the price you pay for 30 litres of gasoline is what we in Denmark and most of Europe pay for one liter! I
38 CayMan : Regarding international services, I am interested in anyone's opinion on AC trying to build its CCS YYZ service. First of all, AC needs to pick a stan
39 Avianca : Chiguire my friend! great topic! how are they doing on the international flights? Regaring the Medellin flights.... it looks like the flights are now
40 Pzurita1 : What do you guys think about the THR-CCS flight with IR? Is it for real? Has there been any news about this in VZ media? There was no source on the th
41 Avianca : Very good question, but yes I think we will see in the future such a flight....
42 Erikgnoha : Excellent Thread Chiguire, we needed this! They stopped this flight some months ago. Avior has the monopoly in this route and I believe they are opera
43 Erikgnoha : First, they should drop the stop in POS. Is a pain to make this stop after a 5 and half hour flight, and you have to get off the plane. AC could try
44 Erikgnoha : What about VH? Do they have any plans for international routes? Are they going to get more MD-80's? Does anybody know about their load factors? Thanks
45 Avianca : yes would be very nice to hear about there load-factors.... but what I personally think is that the POS, MDE, LIM and AUA flights are good to very go
46 797 : Well, I will go down to CCS to photograph their first flight so we can all share the experience! I also say SEEING IS BELIEVING! I full my 80-liter t
47 Erikgnoha : I think they have good numbers on the POS flight because they don't face any competition. The same thing with MDE. Maybe AUA keeps good load factor b
48 Avianca : yes for POS is a lot of O&D market but no competition. AUA is a leisure destination, but the tickets are very high-yield.... I travelled last August
49 SOUTHAMERICA : Don't get your hopes too high guys. During November, Aeropostal averaged 47% in loads on the CCS-MDE-CCS, which aren't bad, but are far from being ide
50 Erikgnoha : Do you have the numbers on the high season? November is a low season month, and even though 47% of load factor is low, is still quite average for VH.
51 Post contains images Avianca : Erikgnoha, even if you didnt asked me, but it looks the flight did a good job in Dezember... even a friend om mine at Avianca.... told me that VH has
52 Erikgnoha : Hehehe, yes, I remember your trip report and you mentioned this. Maybe they have good loads during high season, bad loads during low season, and over
53 SOUTHAMERICA : Partial reports should be out next week. True. CCS-MDE is relatively new and has a lot to mature. I think they are actually doing pretty good conside
54 Charvett : On Behalf Of All Venezuelans: I need to thank you to follow this thread; and to let everyone know that we as Venezuelans still have a civil air transp
55 Lamedianaranja : AVIATION FUELS PRICE VEB/LITER AT VENEZUELAN AIRPORTS VEB 2150 = USD 1 AIRPORTS AVGAS JET A1 APT DE CARACAS 1.374,00 1.080,00 BARQUISIMETO 1.213,91 9
56 Chiguire : We already had the figures from MDE now. Although it is correct that the December was much higher than 47%. However, this figure seems to be increasi
57 CayMan : Yes no question that the stop in POS is a pain, especially given requirement to disembark. At least it is only one one leg of YYZ CCS. If I recall th
58 797 : Guys, Yesterday my girlfriend was watching E entertainment television and on the Wild On Tenerife show they interviewed the S3 767 captain along with
59 Erikgnoha : Thank you very much for the information Chiguire! Yes! The MRD only sees Avior and S3 and they operate several flights a day. maybe Conviasa should e
60 Chiguire : Conivasa is Chavez airline and I prefer to keep the actual situation rather than seeing this airline competing with the private sector and bringing t
61 Erikgnoha : True, but from the point of view of the customer, they would prefer Conviasa to enter the market. Cheap fares, great services, nice planes, don't you
62 Chiguire : Yes, but not generally. Last thing I heard is that it did not improve. It was good at the beginning but not they lost a lot, especially on the turbop
63 Erikgnoha : This is the problem with the current political situation in Venezuela. Just because I like Conviasa does that mean I am chavista? Not at all. C'mon,
64 Viasa : One is back with Global Air and is leased to VivaAeroBus in full Conviasa colors.
65 Chiguire : You are right, it's a general problem with the political situation. And I don't want to say that all people flying Conviasa are chavistas. But: In a
66 Post contains images 797 : Well Chiguire, this is what Venezuela is all about...at least the 'regular' venezuelan.. I agree with you, but if you get to see, they're cheating at
67 Chiguire : Has somebody heard anything from Ravsa ? How are they doing on CCS-MAR ? When I checked their flights on the first days of operation they were always
68 Erikgnoha : That's exactly what I think. Well, let's move on. Does anybody have information about Rutaca? This airline hasn't show any grow since the last couple
69 Post contains links Chiguire : For me it is difficult to understand how Laser can survive. They are operating 4 daily flights and have 3 DC9. Financially this is hard to believe. T
70 Erikgnoha : Maybe Rutaca and Laser have some frequent flyers that support they operations. But what you said is totally true, they have an old fleet that cost th
71 Erikgnoha : Do you know when is the other 732 going back to Mexico? Thank you.
72 Edgaren : Hey guys, how are u?...It's pretty cool from you chiguire to bring up this thread...What have u guys heard about AA operations to VLN, supposedly they
73 Erikgnoha : The crew belongs to Icelandair from one side, and to LOT Polish airlines in the other side. S3 has 2 767-300 and both are wet-lease to these airlines
74 MAH4546 : The Venezuelan government has yet to approve AA's MIA-VLN flight, and they cannot advertise until it is approved. It will likely be delayed at least
75 TGV : A question for you specialists! I am booked on Avior as follows: Flight 1115 VLN 12:00 PMV 13:15 (a Saturday) Flight 1125 PMV 13:50 BLA 13:50 (a Satur
76 Erikgnoha : Hey TGV, flight 1125 (daily) is operated with a Beech, leaving PMV at 17:30 and arriving BLA at 18:00. I couldn't find anything about flight 1115 but
77 797 : Well, as I said on a previous post on this thread, I saw an interview made to the CAPTAIN and CHIEF FLIGHT ATTENDANT of one of the 767-300ER they use
78 TGV : Thank you Erikgnoha, and more mysteries now ! Th schedules I gave in my message (with an error copying/pasting, the arrival time in PMV is in fact 14:
79 Chiguire : I remember that Laser was kind of a "flying club" for shareholders. The issued shares and depending on the number of shares you had the right to purc
80 Post contains images Chiguire : Hi TGV ! Easy, give VH another chance. You might not know exactly the time you depart or arrive, but at least you know it's a DC9-30 ! [Edited 2007-0
81 Post contains images TGV : Hi Chiguire, You see, I am a railways operations man. For me if a transport company (be it an airline or a railways, when you analyze it there are a
82 Luisde8cd : ATC in CCS is the most incompetent that I've seen, they trail only after PTY. 100% of my international departures involve a 15+ minute wait holding s
83 TGV : I agree for the 10/20 minutes hold short of runway, but generally during this time, you see one to 3 planes land. But one thing they are not good at
84 CayMan : I could not agree more, I fly out of CCS typically sveral times a month internationally and even more to PMV and have never ever understodd what appe
85 Post contains images Luisde8cd : A mixture of both. Just to give you an idea... ATC is divided in different control areas: -Ground (taxiing) -Tower (t/o and landings) -Approach/Depar
86 Post contains links and images Luisde8cd : On another order of ideas.... The Venezuelan Tax Authority (SENIAT) has said that they are currently working on drafting a new Luxury Tax Law in order
87 Post contains images Chiguire : I was not aware that the Iran produces planes !?! I was always wondering about that as well, but thanks to Luis this is clear now. I know what you me
88 Erikgnoha : You're welcome, although I wasn't really helpful. The only flight I am really sure it is going to be operated by a Beech is the VLN-PMV, the other on
89 Chiguire : I would like to help. In my office I have access to the ADC system from Avior. It is very easy there. If you see a seatplan for a specific flight it
90 Chiguire : Another question: Anyone knows what happened to the AA passengers that stranded in CCS yesterday on their route from MIA to GRU ? AA was supposed to f
91 Erikgnoha : I guess they were sent back on one or two of CCS-MIA flights. The loads for yesterday flights were not really high.
92 Erikgnoha : Oh no... this not good news at all. We should get use to the old airplanes we see here in Venezuela, because they are going to stay long!!!
93 CayMan : Luisde8cd, man thanks for that clarification with very specific technical detail, it all makes more sense now. With all the petrodollars pouring in,
94 Chiguire : OK, but I guess the 777 is still in CCS no ?
95 Erikgnoha : Maybe, I hope so. I think we have only seen AZ 777, BA 777, RG 777 and now this one, am I correct? It should be nice to take a picture of that bird h
96 UA868 : Buen trabajo muchachos.... Thanks for putting Venezuela on the aviation map, I am Venezuelan and I was unaware of most of these things so for me is a
97 Chiguire : Not sure, maybe there once was a T7 from AF as backup for the 747. This is a job for 797 !
98 Luisde8cd : Indeed. Back in the 70's during the Oil Bonanza we used to have more radars: -Maracaibo Approach -Barquisimeto Approach -Barcelona Approach Regarding
99 Post contains images Luisde8cd : It already left Saludos desde Caracas, Luis
100 Post contains links TGV : You are right (AF is a good exemple of this), and I should not be so negative. In fact my last AVIOR flight from PZO was delayed by nearly 2 hours, b
101 Chiguire : But what happened to the other thread ? Yes, and I would like to explain the reasons..... Regulations and rules imposed by the upper management are t
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