Captaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 6645 times:
So basically it is applying for renewal on existing UA codeshare flights. But this also gives them the permission to fly these routes with their own metal, if they choose to do so? Does UA fly to Uraguay?
Usatoeze From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 358 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 6596 times:
It's too bad that they aren't pursuing this further using their own aircraft. The more capacity to EZE the better for everybody. Trying to get my family there twice a year is always interesting (LAX-LIM-SCL-EZE over the Christmas holiday).
OA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5351 posts, RR: 25
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 6589 times:
Quoting Captaink (Reply 7): So basically it is applying for renewal on existing UA codeshare flights. But this also gives them the permission to fly these routes with their own metal, if they choose to do so? Does UA fly to Uraguay?
That is exactly the case. US is simply renewing its authority in order to continue codesharing with UA. It does not grant them permission to start up their own flights, however. Remember that Argentina, the larger market of the 2, is a restricted entry market for US carriers and, currently, all authorities are being utilized so US cannot just begin service even if the market warrants it. However, if new authorities become available, US is free to apply for US-Argentina service if it so chooses. Anyway, this is all moot as I highly doubt that there is much, if any, demand from US' hubs to either Argentina or Uruguay.
In answer to your second question, yes, UA does serve MVD as an extension of Buenos Aires. It is reportedly a very profitable station for UA.
Actually, it's Uruguay and, yes, UA has been flying to MVD since they acquired PA's routes to South America in 1992, after PA was shut down and liquidated.
UA currently flies to MVD as a 'short-hop' extension to their IAD-EZE daily flight and keeps its 767-322ER on the tarmac in Carrasco for the entire day until the evening return to IAD.
While UA is currently doing quite well on their flights to GRU [twice daily] and EZE-MVD [daily], they used to have a much more extensive network, serving destinations such as SCL from their now-closed hub at MIA.
Code-sharing with US is great way for UA to get the most out of its participation in StarAlliance.
LAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7759 posts, RR: 25
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 6530 times:
This is good news for US. If they did use their own metal, which city would be their gateway?
And out of curiosity, if they are still planning to merge with DL (who has an extensive South American Network), why go through with this? I realize its good to US codesharing with UA, but why would it matter unless they dont think the merger will work out?
Steeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9263 posts, RR: 21
Reply 23, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4096 times:
Perhaps US will consider the 787 and ditch the A350... or wait... nope, I looked out the window and didn't see any pigs flying...
Even if they were to do that, the wait list I think goes into 2012 or so for the 787, according to another post regarding the subject. At this point, the launch date/delivery date, whichever/I dunno anymore, for the A350 is around that time frame anyway, providing the thing even goes into assembly within the next few months or so. I doubt it.
Even still, the A350 will be flying at some point; I don't think Airbus would just all-of-a-sudden cancel that program and be out X billions of dollars/euros. US will have the privilage of flying it first.
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QXatFAT From Israel, joined Feb 2006, 2405 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 4009 times:
Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 19): I was always surprised that NWA never applied for DTW-GRU....maybe their relationship with CO caused them to not want to do that
Restrictions on slots right now. Another Brasilian carrier would need to apply and get service to the United States first and looks like Ocean Air will be there soon to LAX.
Quoting Treebeard787 (Reply 18): This is very interesting! Where would US fly to these cities from? If they fly it with there own planes that is.
PHL would be a good one IMO as well as PHX.
Quoting A330323X (Reply 16): There's more to South America than EZE/MVD/GRU/GIG/SCL, you know.
Quoting LCFreeman49 (Reply 14): US Airways has A330's in their fleet, what about repositioning their 330's to run these routes and use 757ETOPS on more European Routes.
If this happend I will personally never fly US over the pond ever again. I refuse to fly 757's on those routes. I already have to fly other airlines on certain routes to Europe and if this happend I would deffinatly switch my miles over to CO. Plus they would take a huge financial hit.