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First Big 07' Order, Who/when?  
User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7030 times:

Jan. 07' is almost gone here for us all and I was wondering what carrier is due to place the first large order of the year?

I'm not up-to-date on all the Airbus know it all and only some on the Boeing side so maybe with input we can try and figure what carrier's will buy what a/c and how many?

EK 748i/787-10
LY 787/A330/350
NH 748i/777
CX 748i/787
IB 787/A330
BA 748i/777/A380
AA 787/737
NZ 787/777
LH 787/A350

I'm sure there are other carrier looking that others can help out on.


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User currently offlineEGBJ From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 498 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7024 times:

I think the first BIG order of '07 will be from EK....lots of talk about them buying a large assortment of 777's lately.

Also maybe NH....hopefully a big A380 order Big grin


User currently offlineLHStarAlliance From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7009 times:

The LH order will not come until April .

User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10731 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 6982 times:

China Airlines 748 perhaps?

User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 6889 times:

Quoting BoeingFever777 (Thread starter):
EK 748i/787-10
LY 787/A330/350
NH 748i/777
CX 748i/787
IB 787/A330
BA 748i/777/A380
AA 787/737
NZ 787/777
LH 787/A350

There are more.

Not sure LY is looking at the A350. According to their CEO NH are not looking at the 748 but are looking at the 773ER and A380. CX will also be looking at the A380 and A350. BA are also looking at the A330 and A350.

Other likely 07 orders that I can think of:
SU 787/A350
QR A350 signing, maybe 787
SQ A350 signing, maybe more 787
LH A320
DL 787
UA A350/787? 748i?
VS ?


User currently offlineLumberton From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 4708 posts, RR: 20
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 6873 times:

Wasn't Air Asia's A320 order (50 firm/50 options) a big order?


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User currently offlineEvilForce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 6859 times:

Quoting BoeingFever777 (Thread starter):
Jan. 07' is almost gone here for us all and I was wondering what carrier is due to place the first large order of the year?

AirAsia is supposed to announce any day they've reached an agreement on 20+ A330's to go with their 50 A320's they ordered a couple of weeks ago.


User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 6768 times:

SPEAKING OF, WHERE IS THE 2007 ORDERS THREAD???????

User currently offlineDAYflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 6573 times:

EK March-April 2007 will be the first big one I think.

But I suppose it depends on how you define big.



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User currently offlineDemoose From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 1952 posts, RR: 23
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 6557 times:

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User currently offlineOrbis From Mexico, joined Dec 2003, 244 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 6438 times:

Mexicana (MX): 10 A346 & 5 A380 lol......... Smile they wished....


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User currently offlineCobra27 From Slovenia, joined May 2001, 1012 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 6369 times:

Quoting Lumberton (Reply 5):
Wasn't Air Asia's A320 order (50 firm/50 options) a big order?

Exactly and that for 30 from spirit airlines wasn't exactly small


User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7298 posts, RR: 85
Reply 12, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6292 times:
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VS 748
BA 748/787
AA 787/772/737
EK 773/748
LH 787/A350
IB 787

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User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9395 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6272 times:

DL 787/777/737/E-90?


yep.
User currently offlineShenzhen From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 1710 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6233 times:

Maybe the question should be ..... What will be the biggest order in 2007?

Cheers


User currently offlineBoeingfever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Reply 15, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6187 times:

Quoting EGBJ (Reply 1):
Also maybe NH....hopefully a big A380 order

Doubtful... NH is a Boeing long-haul customer.

Quoting EI321 (Reply 4):
QR A350 signing

LMAO... Going on 2-3yrs? What a joke that committment is.

Quoting Shenzhen (Reply 14):
What will be the biggest order in 2007?

Toss between EK and AABig grin



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User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 6168 times:

Quoting Boeingfever777 (Reply 15):
Quoting EI321 (Reply 4):
QR A350 signing

LMAO... Going on 2-3yrs? What a joke that committment is.

Wasnt their commitment to the original A350 at farnbrough 05?. Hardly in a rush if the aircraft wont enter service until 2013 or 2014.


User currently offlineShenzhen From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 1710 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 6160 times:

Quoting Boeingfever777 (Reply 15):
LMAO... Going on 2-3yrs? What a joke that committment is.

The MOU/LOI would have long ago expired. In addition, I wouldn't trust Qatar with a handshake........

Cheers


User currently offlineLumberton From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 4708 posts, RR: 20
Reply 18, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 6160 times:

Quoting EI321 (Reply 16):
Wasnt their commitment to the original A350 at farnbrough 05?. Hardly in a rush if the aircraft wont enter service until 2013 or 2014.

Unfortunately, when QR took out their LOI, EIS was 2010. There may be some "issues" here.



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User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 6146 times:

Quoting Shenzhen (Reply 17):
Quoting Boeingfever777 (Reply 15):
LMAO... Going on 2-3yrs? What a joke that committment is.

The MOU/LOI would have long ago expired.

They expire? Can you elaborate......

Quoting Lumberton (Reply 18):
Quoting EI321 (Reply 16):
Wasnt their commitment to the original A350 at farnbrough 05?. Hardly in a rush if the aircraft wont enter service until 2013 or 2014.

Unfortunately, when QR took out their LOI, EIS was 2010. There may be some "issues" here.

There may, but if they were going to order anything else instead it would have happened by now.


User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 22
Reply 20, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 6122 times:

Quoting BoeingFever777 (Thread starter):
Jan. 07' is almost gone here for us all and I was wondering what carrier is due to place the first large order of the year?

50 A32S aircraft for Air Asia is a big order, period. Not only was it the first big order, it was also the very first order for 2007. 30 A32S for Spirit isn't small either, neither is the commitmentfor 20 A330F.

I know, they're all Airbus, but that doesn't make them less big.  Wink



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User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Reply 21, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 5876 times:

Quoting EI321 (Reply 16):
Wasnt their commitment to the original A350 at farnbrough 05?. Hardly in a rush if the aircraft wont enter service until 2013 or 2014.

Sit back down and learn to take a joke. Big grin

Quoting Shenzhen (Reply 17):
The MOU/LOI would have long ago expired. In addition, I wouldn't trust Qatar with a handshake........

So true... And the commitment was based on a 2010 EIS and the old A350 model.

Quoting Manni (Reply 20):
I know, they're all Airbus, but that doesn't make them less big. Wink

It is the A320, let me be more clear for you! "LONG HAUL!"

It Boeing could handle it then WN would have ordered another 100+ 737NG on the first. From my examples I'm talking about major orders... Bouts between A vs B, orders they will have to work for.



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User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5833 times:

Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 21):
Quoting Shenzhen (Reply 17):
The MOU/LOI would have long ago expired. In addition, I wouldn't trust Qatar with a handshake........


So true... And the commitment was based on a 2010 EIS and the old A350 model.

Well its like this. QR can either
1. Stick to the commitment and order A350s.
2. Order 787s instead, bearing in mind that they originally canceled their commitment to the 787 in favour of a plane that was inferior to what Airbus now has.
3. order A340s or 777s instead.

....They have done neither 2 or 3.

[Edited 2007-01-27 03:00:44]

User currently offlineSKY1 From Spain, joined Apr 2006, 879 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5808 times:

I'd like to see IB ordering a combo of 747-8I/787.

The 747-8I will be complementary for the A346 fleet and the 787's could replace the oldest A343's. Both aircraft will have the new GEnx engine.

I know this scenario is nearly like a dream as IB is a loyal Airbus customer.

I don't see IB ordering new planes in 2007.

There are rumors saying, anyway, they will purchase two or three more A346's, necessary to add more frequency to the current ops.



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User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5767 times:

Quoting SKY1 (Reply 23):
I'd like to see IB ordering a combo of 747-8I/787.

The 747-8I will be complementary for the A346 fleet and the 787's could replace the oldest A343's. Both aircraft will have the new GEnx engine.

Cant see Iberia ordering 747s again. Would be very big to replace the A343s, maybe they will be more interested in the A350 for that. Dont think they will be ordering A380s soon either.

Quoting SKY1 (Reply 23):
There are rumors saying, anyway, they will purchase two or three more A346's, necessary to add more frequency to the current ops.

Would make sense.

[Edited 2007-01-27 02:59:48]

25 Post contains images SKY1 : Read again ...and then,
26 Post contains images EI321 : My mistake, must be past my bedtime   [Edited 2007-01-27 03:07:14]
27 SKY1 : Anyhow, It's pretty unlikely as I see more realist IB ordering A350XWB to replace the oldest A343's and ordering, if need be, more A346 instead 747-8I
28 AA787823 : AA will not order any new airplanes till 2008 at the earliest.
29 KC135TopBoom : Isn't BA about to order planes to replace their B-747-400s, B-767-300ERs, and older B-777-200/ERs (including the 5 non ERs they have)? They could orde
30 Post contains images FXramper : What routes does IB operate that would warrant a 748? Agreed and agreed. I see AA adding the 787 to their existing route structure and future routes.
31 RootsAir : IB is already getting two ex NM A332's If there is an order it would be new A320's and 787, as they have already thought about this A/C EZE, MEX ...t
32 Post contains images Jacobin777 : QR have ordered 20+ B777's....
33 UAL777UK : Arn't those old buckets already falling apart??!! Seriously though UA and AA must surely have to think very seriously about ordering some frames this
34 Post contains images Manni : Why didn't you mention that in the opening post? Here what you asked... Indeed "LONGHAUL!" is not mentioned FYI Air Asia was a former Boeing only ope
35 MBJ2000 : Maybe then you should rename your thread, a proposal from my side: 2007 orders for LONG HAUL! FROM BOEING! AND THAT'S NOT AIRBUS The first big order
36 2wingtips : How about most significant order of the year. The 2 that stick out to me are EK and BA. Both will be big and both will be very significant for the A35
37 Post contains links EI321 : The 777s are not an alternative to the A350, they were ordered along with the A350 commitment! http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/228341_qatar14.
38 SKY1 : EZE, MEX, JFK, and seasonally MIA, BOG and LIM
39 Jacobin777 : " target=_blank>http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/busine....html Your comment has the connotation QR didn't order the B777..
40 EI321 : What? Im a bit lost.
41 Manni : BA sounds very significant indeed. Up to 135 widebodies! This wil be one of the hardest fought over deals. I do hope that there's a bit more exciting
42 EI321 : Yes, as far as I know the plan is to replace these fleets from 2012 onwards. Either 777s or A330s to be ordered in the meantime, but these wont be in
43 Post contains images Jacobin777 : So was I when I initially read your post..but now I see what you are saying..so its basically a "non-issue"...
44 EI321 : Ok, lets rewind. I was originally replying to your comment that the airline has ordered 20 777s. Thats right, but they were never ordered as an altern
45 Jfk777 : Big orders for 2007 would have to start with the USA airlines. AA needs to dump the MD-80's fast, they have 300, Boeing should make them a nice deal f
46 Post contains images Manni : Already happened. Spirit ordered 30 A32S this month.
47 Post contains images EI321 : Which gets me thinking, is the 737 really what AA should be replacing the ENTIRE MD80 fleet with? What about the other options, E-195 or even new V25
48 BoeingFever777 : So your thinking that they will order the 787 over the A350? Yeah in order to stay competitive I would agree.
49 Manni : No. When replacing a fleet of 300 aircraft, the few dozen 738s AA currently operate will hardly be the dealbreaker (ie. fleet commonality). If AA had
50 Bongodog1964 : [quote=KC135TopBoom,reply=29]Isn't BA about to order planes to replace their B-747-400s, B-767-300ERs, and older B-777-200/ERs (including the 5 non ER
51 EI321 : ? RootsAir was replying to your post where you stated ''A330/787'', maybe you meant A350? Well I think we can rule out the A319. Besides AA's 'agreem
52 Post contains images BoeingFever777 : Yes... sorry.
53 Post contains images FXramper : ...you mean 748, right?
54 Post contains images ER757 : I'd add LH's mid-sized widebody order to this list Sounds like a logical option and the way they'll probably go. I know many here are talking of AA o
55 EI321 : Just to add to that, Walsh really only completed what was an eneviatable occurance in the Aer Lingus fleet, as the airline was favouring the savings
56 Post contains images Jacobin777 : The problem with that is why purchase an old technology 737-700 when there will be a Y1 coming out right around that time (or a few years afterwards)
57 Post contains links EI321 : The problem with the 757 and the 787 is that the 787 is a much larger aircraft. They might find the 739ER more appealing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wik
58 Post contains images Bmacleod : No more A380 orders expected? NH has stated before they want to eliminate the 747 from their fleet and concentrate on more 773ERs.
59 EI321 : BA, LH and a few others are possible.
60 Jacobin777 : Even if one removes the B757 from the order list, it still leaves the B767 and A300 replacement....so they would still need valuable B787 slots....
61 EI321 : Oh Yeah, im not debating that. 788 789 and 783 will fit perfectly into the future AA fleet. 7810s aswell when thet retire the 772s. I think they shou
62 KC135TopBoom : I just don't see very many A-350 orders for a while. Airbus is all over the map with this airplane (trying to chase the B-787). What are we up to now
63 EI321 : BA themselves has said that it would fit. But what would they know....... The BA tender is for aircraft with deliveries from 2012 onwards. How do you
64 KC135TopBoom : Almost all airlines say things like that, all the time. They are bargining with both Airbus and Boeing, in this case. Natuerally, they want the best
65 Manni : This 'agreement' did not cover narrowbodies. NH says something different every so often. The latest 'info' is that more 773ER's are considered and al
66 N328KF : Oh, yes it did. DL, AA, and CO had nearly identical agreements, and AA and DL have both used it recently to rejigger their 737 slot allocation. AA de
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