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Is There A Business Class On BMI Regional?  
User currently offline8herveg From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1206 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3247 times:

It says on the bmi website that Business Class is offered on the bmi regional flights, in a 'seperate cabin', but when looking at photos of the cabin on the ERJ aircraft, it just looks like an all economy layout.

Can someone explain please?

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User currently offlineAirNZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3230 times:

Well, it's certainly offered on the BHD-LHR with separate cabin but that's operated by A320 and A321 aircraft. Afraid I don't know about ERJ though.

User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8906 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3226 times:

Quoting 8herveg (Thread starter):
It says on the bmi website that Business Class is offered on the bmi regional flights, in a 'seperate cabin', but when looking at photos of the cabin on the ERJ aircraft, it just looks like an all economy layout.

More than likely it's the same seat, enhanced service. Better service, better drinks, food, etc.


User currently offlineLite From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3151 times:

Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 2):
More than likely it's the same seat, enhanced service. Better service, better drinks, food, etc.

Absolutely correct. bmi regional's business class cabin is at the front of the aircraft, and business class essentially means identical seat (width, pitch etc) but passengers are provided with more amenities onboard, lounge access, priority baggage handling, priority check-in, more mileage on frequent flyer programmes etc. Passengers on shorthaul aren't paying for extra comfort, more extra convenience.


User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3146 times:

Quoting 8herveg (Thread starter):
but when looking at photos of the cabin on the ERJ aircraft, it just looks like an all economy layout.

No ERJ (E135,140,145) operator worldwide operates a 1st or Business Class. There is just no room. Indigo tried it, but went out of business. Now, when you get up to the E170-E190... that opens up new choices.

[Edited 2007-01-28 18:02:41]


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User currently offline8herveg From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1206 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3094 times:

Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 2):



Quoting Lite (Reply 3):
Absolutely correct. bmi regional's business class cabin is at the front of the aircraft, and business class essentially means identical seat (width, pitch etc) but passengers are provided with more amenities onboard, lounge access, priority baggage handling, priority check-in, more mileage on frequent flyer programmes etc. Passengers on shorthaul aren't paying for extra comfort, more extra convenience.

I see. So why would bmi state on their website that it is a completly seperate cabin on the bmi regional routes? A little misleading perhaps...?

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 4):
No ERJ (E135,140,145) operator worldwide operates a 1st or Business Class. There is just no room.

Didn't BA have Club Europe on its ERJs from Manchester, Birmingham and Bristol into Europe?


User currently offlineNoelg From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 9 hours ago) and read 3022 times:

You get an enhanced breakfast in business on Regional too - a full English rather than a hot panini.

User currently offlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3247 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 8 hours ago) and read 3013 times:

Quoting Lite (Reply 3):
Passengers on shorthaul aren't paying for extra comfort, more extra convenience.

Well, some airlines do try to give you more comfort on short-haul business class. LH block out the middle seat in their A32X / B73X and turn it into a table, as well as making the seats a bit wider. So, yes, same legroom, but definitely more comfort (i.e., you don't have someone right next to you elbowing you throughout the flight). Additionally, on their CRJs, they actually leave the seat next to you empty, to again avoid having someone right next to you. So again you get more comfort.

Tony



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User currently offlineLite From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 4 hours ago) and read 2968 times:

Quoting 8herveg (Reply 5):
I see. So why would bmi state on their website that it is a completly seperate cabin on the bmi regional routes? A little misleading perhaps...?

There is a curtain which divides the business class area from the economy class.


User currently offlineCjh2007 From Austria, joined Jan 2007, 263 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 4 hours ago) and read 2963 times:

I think most non LCC's have a business class for their inner european, even very short flights...

But be warned... the service you get for your money on any C flight in europe is a joke really... a bad one one

Regards,

Cjh



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User currently offline8herveg From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1206 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 3 hours ago) and read 2940 times:

Quoting Lite (Reply 8):
There is a curtain which divides the business class area from the economy class.

Not on the ERJs I don't think there is.


User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3424 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2891 times:

Quoting SNATH (Reply 7):
Well, some airlines do try to give you more comfort on short-haul business class. LH block out the middle seat in their A32X / B73X and turn it into a table, as well as making the seats a bit wider

Most European Airliners do. However on a ERJ-145 is this impossible as it is a 1+2 config


User currently offlineCEO@AFG From Norway, joined Jan 2001, 247 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2884 times:

Flew Aberdeen - Manchester in biz on a ERJ-145 last year, got rerouted on my BGO-CPH-MAN service to BGO-ABZ-MAN due to the SAS strike going on at the time.

The First two or three rows of the ERJ had different seat covers, and there was a curtain dividing the cabins. I think the service further back was buy on board. Up front I was offered afternoon tea with scones aswell as a can of pop. Quite a pleasent experience.

Leg room and seat width was the same however.



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User currently offlineNoelg From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2850 times:

Quoting CEO@AFG (Reply 12):
The First two or three rows of the ERJ had different seat covers, and there was a curtain dividing the cabins. I think the service further back was buy on board. Up front I was offered afternoon tea with scones aswell as a can of pop. Quite a pleasent experience.

For economy pax, BMI Regional offer free hot snacks (when I flew them last year I got a hot panini for breakfast, and tea/cakes for lunch and afternoon tea), with free drinks, including alcohol. It's not buy on board in economy.

BMI Regional have a great product for economy class, I hope it doesn't change.


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