HALFA From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1324 posts, RR: 17 Posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 11500 times:
A passenger travelling on a Hawaiian Airlines flight last summer from HNL to PPG has been ordered to compensate HA $19,000.00+, after he was convicted of assaulting a flight attendant during the flight. After the assault, the flight was diverted back to HNL where the passenger was arrested. HA claimed that the diversion cost the company $19,000, and was awarded this amount by a federal court.
Kaukau From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 106 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 11261 times:
Aloha, HALFA! Howzit?
That's awesome! Good luck collecting it though, eh. Folks in PPG don't have a pot to piss in, for the most part. Go on vacation once every ten years and don't know how to act on an airplane. They're lucky you still fly to PPG, as far as I can tell. Anyway, we're just waiting to head over to HNL and get on HA8, the red-eye to Vegas, tonight! Love your posts, love HA!!!
StarGoldLHR From Heard and McDonald Islands, joined Feb 2004, 1529 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 8365 times:
I wonder if that 19000 will be divided amongst the passengers for compensation and delays, or dissapear into the companies shareholders as dividends for a good days work ?
So far in 2008 45 flights and Gold already. JFK, IAD, LGA, SIN, HKG, NRT, AKL, PPT, LAX still to book ! Home Airport LCY
RiddlePilot215 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 315 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 7111 times:
Quoting StarGoldLHR (Reply 4): I wonder if that 19000 will be divided amongst the passengers for compensation and delays
Advantageous thinking at best.....
Quoting StarGoldLHR (Reply 4): or dissapear into the companies shareholders as dividends for a good days work ?
God is good, all the time. All the time, God is good.
BY188B From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 701 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 5713 times:
Quoting StarGoldLHR (Reply 4): I wonder if that 19000 will be divided amongst the passengers for compensation and delays, or dissapear into the companies shareholders as dividends for a good days work ?
Probably goes on the extra fuel, airports fees and the costs of transferring passengers who missed their connection due to this passengers actions.
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TPAPDX From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 87 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks ago) and read 3560 times:
I'm sure the $19,000 award was for the cost of:
Fuel, landing & handling fees, payroll and maintenance.
Had HA asked for "compensatory" damages for the delay to compensate passengers, I don't think it would have been approved by the court without a lengthly legal analysis and additional expense.
However, verifiable operation cost can be easily proven.
SW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6072 posts, RR: 10 Reply 8, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2904 times:
WorkFlyer From New Zealand, joined Dec 2006, 203 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2895 times:
It appears he is American Samoan. So there may well be different rules and regulations given that countries relationship as American Samoa is a US Territory.
BHXFAOTIPYYC From Portugal, joined Jun 2005, 1644 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2809 times:
Quoting SW733 (Reply 8): but this is awesome...should happen more often...they should make big news of this to keep it from happening again
Except as WorkFlyer said, it isn't so awesome when the guy only has to pay $25 a month because he "can't afford" any more. What's the betting this clown even defaults on this amount too.
Breakfast in BHX, lunch in FAO, dinner in TIP, baggage in YYC.
Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88 Reply 11, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2632 times:
Quoting BHXFAOTIPYYC (Reply 7): Doesn't being convicted of assault result in deportation from the US? The article states that he is Samoan.
If I'm not mistaken, Samoans are US citizens, at least from American Samoa.
Centrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3597 posts, RR: 21 Reply 12, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2591 times:
Brilliant.
Didn't a judge a few years back order the same thing to a man on an NW flight from NRT-MSP? He got drunk and started becoming dangerous. They had to dump fuel and land at ANC. The man had to write appology letters to all passengers, write an essay about the environmental impact of fuel dumping and pay a big wad of cash to the airline.
Yes...I am not a KIX fan. Let's Japanese Aviation!
Kaukau From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 106 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2278 times:
I was chatting up some of the crew on the HA flights I just took about this, and two of the more memorable comments fom the crew were: "What's he gonna pay with? Breadfruit?", and, "I only know one Samoan who's got money: our Mayor!" (Mufi Hannemann, the Mayor of Honolulu.) And P.S. I was told that the FA that got punched is one of the nicest, kindest and most popular FA's in the entire HA system; and a regular on the PPG route. So everyone on board was doubly mad at the idiot who punched him. Let this be a lesson to all the idiots out there!
ANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2134 times:
Quoting BHXFAOTIPYYC (Reply 10): Except as WorkFlyer said, it isn't so awesome when the guy only has to pay $25 a month because he "can't afford" any more. What's the betting this clown even defaults on this amount too.
A precident has however been set. US$25 a month or not, the deal is done and it will make it easier for airlines to sue for and collect compensation for these diversions. . . . it's about time.
Quoting Gigneil (Reply 11): If I'm not mistaken, Samoans are US citizens, at least from American Samoa.
WJ From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 339 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2101 times:
I just love stuff like this. This case aside, every time some moron creates an inconvenience for the people around them they should be held liable. Next time it wont be a poor samoan, but a wealthy businessman who got drunk and biligerent and he will be forced to pay $100,000. As long as the precedents are being set, I'm happy.
777fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2403 posts, RR: 3 Reply 17, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2050 times:
Quoting WJ (Reply 16): This case aside, every time some moron creates an inconvenience for the people around them they should be held liable.
No doubt. I would assume that if HA has a "no-fly list", this dolt would be on it. Perhaps that could serve as a preview of what's to come should the American Samoan governor get his wish: just try getting back to HNL or the US mainland without HA.
Sad truth is, with the litigious nature of most Americans these days, it's usually the airline, the government, or someone else's fault. It's about time that people - regardless of color, personal wealth, or status - be held accountable for their behavior.
Ha763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3492 posts, RR: 6 Reply 18, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2014 times:
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 15): Quoting Gigneil (Reply 11):
If I'm not mistaken, Samoans are US citizens, at least from American Samoa.
Correct. And subject to US laws.
Acutally, American Samoans are U.S. nationals. But they still are subject to U.S. laws.
Quoting Kaukau (Reply 13): "What's he gonna pay with? Breadfruit?", and, "I only know one Samoan who's got money: our Mayor!"
That's quite funny. On the serious side, many families in American Samoa tend to be land rich, but money poor.
PROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5439 posts, RR: 5 Reply 19, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1859 times:
Quoting Kaukau (Reply 13): "I only know one Samoan who's got money: our Mayor!"
A bunch of NFL players would beg to disagree
"Let me think about it" = the coward's way of saying "no"
Hawaijahaz From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 352 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1734 times:
Quoting Centrair (Reply 12): The man had to write appology letters to all passengers, write an essay about the environmental impact of fuel dumping and pay a big wad of cash to the airline.
That's awesome. Its great that he had to write apology letters and an essay. Wish they would do this kind of stuff more.
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