StarGoldLHR From Heard and McDonald Islands, joined Feb 2004, 1529 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4656 times:
I think Schabak and Schuco are in the bidding.
Gemini Jets have tendered in the large aircraft category stating that their models are 1:400 not 1:500 and can therefore offer more weight.
There is a rumour Corgi may even re-enter the aviation arena with an entirely new design for bmi.
So far in 2008 45 flights and Gold already. JFK, IAD, LGA, SIN, HKG, NRT, AKL, PPT, LAX still to book ! Home Airport LCY
StarGoldLHR From Heard and McDonald Islands, joined Feb 2004, 1529 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks ago) and read 4444 times:
Personally I was quite surprised BMI was able to sell all those StarJets models on their flights to need a new batch so soon.
seriously though, I assume 20 jets is for bmi baby to replace the 737s ?
However is bmibaby seriously that healthy, they appear to be eaten alive where ever they go and with bmi themselves flying lots of empty aircraft from LHR, RJ's would seem like sense from LHR, and give baby the A320's but a waste of slots in reality.
Is this the long awaited large aircraft order to make a serious go of it ? - I think not, the baby 737-300s are quite old, and they have 19 to replace.
so it looks like baby is going for the small ERJs to replace the 737's, but is there any "regional" airlines making money on even smaller subsidiary airlines using solely ERJ's ?.
Maybe they might go commonality and get a combi fleet of A318-A320 ? - that would make a bit more sense
So far in 2008 45 flights and Gold already. JFK, IAD, LGA, SIN, HKG, NRT, AKL, PPT, LAX still to book ! Home Airport LCY
Lovinitflyboy From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 116 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4225 times:
from what i understand, the 20 aircraft are for bmi mainline, not Baby, or regional. plus an option for a further 20.
Humberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4901 posts, RR: 5 Reply 12, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4190 times:
If these aircraft are for baby its quite clear there are no plans for baby to grow in the near future. 20 aircraft for 19 larger ones
Personally I hope they are for mainline. If it was a ERJ-190/5, it would be ideal for routes like LHR-LBA/MME/ABZ/HAJ. I guess further A320 family aircraft would be possible or even new long haul aircraft
Rainmaker From Brazil, joined Jan 2006, 112 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4026 times:
Quoting StarGoldLHR (Reply 10): but is there any "regional" airlines making money on even smaller subsidiary airlines using solely ERJ's ?.
Republic holdings in the US notwithstanding, Flybe is apparently very eager to introduce their new EMB190´s asap. They must think these jets make sense to their business plans.
BestWestern From Ireland, joined Sep 2000, 6447 posts, RR: 58 Reply 14, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4027 times:
Quoting LifelinerOne (Reply 6): No, and they apparently don't need it either as they are leasing out one A330 to Virgin Nigeria
Really - are they shrinking to two aircraft? I have heard rumours that all long haul aircraft may be gone by the end of the year, but wasnt expecting it so soon.
Quoting Lovinitflyboy (Reply 11): from what i understand, the 20 aircraft are for bmi mainline, not Baby, or regional. plus an option for a further 20
No - the airline hasnt stated which AOC its for. If its ERJ's - could we see a merging of Regional and Baby?
Quoting Humberside (Reply 12): If these aircraft are for baby its quite clear there are no plans for baby to grow in the near future. 20 aircraft for 19 larger ones
Bmi will be sold before any of this happens anyway - but the 733's are the obvious aircraft to be replaced.
Lovinitflyboy From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 116 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3957 times:
Quoting BestWestern (Reply 14): No - the airline hasnt stated which AOC its for
Just the was it was worded in the compant magazie! Sorry if i got that wrong!!
PurpleBox From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 321 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3747 times:
Quoting BestWestern (Reply 14): Really - are they shrinking to two aircraft? I have heard rumours that all long haul aircraft may be gone by the end of the year, but wasnt expecting it so soon.
Zkojh From China, joined Sep 2004, 1501 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3654 times:
so whats happening with the cabin upgrades then on the a330's which were ment to be done by march. looks like bmi are going in for a complete change again!!
CHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 63 Reply 20, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3355 times:
Whats the status on the A321s - are they still being gotten rid of?
What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
Stargoldlhr From Heard and McDonald Islands, joined Feb 2004, 1529 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3203 times:
Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 20): Whats the status on the A321s - are they still being gotten rid of?
The A321's are going to be used on a LCY - LHR - Southend shuttle service.
So far in 2008 45 flights and Gold already. JFK, IAD, LGA, SIN, HKG, NRT, AKL, PPT, LAX still to book ! Home Airport LCY
Timboflier215 From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 1239 posts, RR: 1 Reply 24, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3081 times:
He can't be - A321s can't operate into LCY. I think the A318 is the largest a/c allowed.
Seriously, bmi needs to be sold so that someone can actually do something truly worthwhile How they can hold 10-15% of the slots at LHR and still not make a proper go of things totally amazes me. Once great, now fast turning into a joke.
Oneworld - the alliance for quality
25 Lovinitflyboy: Thats what happens when you have an accountant running the show!! every corner gets cut to save money and at the same time turning the airline into a
26 Lite: I think this is where the merger with BMED will be the complete change of strategy for bmi, as I've said in the other post concerning the potential m
27 Humberside: Personally I dont think regional and baby would be a good fit. I doubt bmi could offer the same product on ABZ-Esjberg and NEMA-ALC and be successful.
28 Aerokiwi: Very interesting analysis, Lite. I suspect you're right, but does BMI Regional maintain a high standing in the business community?
29 Lite: To an extent, I agree, but just under five years ago, it used to work perfectly like that in the regions under the British Midland Commuter brand. Us
30 Strathpeffer: I understand BMI Regional has a fairly reasonable reputation up here in ABZ, where they haul around a lot of oil related people. I myself have not sa
31 BMED: I've been on regional a number of times and they have a nice product. 2 Cabin crew between 49 people which means the service is fast. Its nice to get
32 JoFMO: I still can't find any confirmation for this rumor. Can somebody give me a link?
33 BestWestern: Or, like everyone else - down to one - and thats why the ERJ 170 - 190 would suit both BMIR, Baby and Mainline... But, isnt this all just conjecture
34 Jasond: Damn straight. Long haul routes being dropped plus the Paris situation and just when you have figured them out then comes this. Either they are on th
35 StarGoldLHR: Outside of London .. yes.. but BMI regional isnt going to fill an A320. BMED nameI assume will fade into memory, as BMI arent going to fly to the mid
36 AIR MALTA: I still can't believe BA is going to let BMED slip away. Remember BA was always there to buy other UK airlines like BCAL, Air Europe, Air Manx and Br
37 Lite: Press release now confirming the purchase of BMED by bmi bmi acquires control of British Mediterranean release date: 02/02/2007 British Midland plc an