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BMI Issues Tender For New Planes  
User currently offlineLifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1922 posts, RR: 7
Posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6366 times:

According to Flight Global, BMI has issued a tender for 20 new planes.

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...or-20-aircraft-and-20-options.html

However, the airline refuses to specify the tender.

Anyone out there having more information?

Cheers!  wave 


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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24936 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6314 times:

20 EMB 190s for BMI Baby apparently


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User currently offlineSQNo1 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 687 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6265 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 1):
20 EMB 190s for BMI Baby apparently

And still no additional long haul aircraft for further intercontinental expansion!

Alex

[Edited 2007-01-29 11:09:50]

User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24936 posts, RR: 56
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6248 times:

Quoting SQNo1 (Reply 2):
And still no additional long haul aircraft for further intercontinental expansion!

5 Saab 340ERs  Wink  duck 



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User currently offlineEgbj From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 498 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6211 times:

Maybe some NG 737's for WW aswell??

User currently offlineTheginge From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 1132 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 6158 times:

Guess that would be in addition to the aircraft they would gain if they buy BMED!!!!!!

User currently offlineLifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1922 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 6072 times:

Quoting SQNo1 (Reply 2):
And still no additional long haul aircraft for further intercontinental expansion!

No, and they apparently don't need it either as they are leasing out one A330 to Virgin Nigeria...

Cheers!  wave 



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User currently offlineStarGoldLHR From Heard and McDonald Islands, joined Feb 2004, 1529 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5903 times:

I think Schabak and Schuco are in the bidding.

Gemini Jets have tendered in the large aircraft category stating that their models are 1:400 not 1:500 and can therefore offer more weight.

There is a rumour Corgi may even re-enter the aviation arena with an entirely new design for bmi.



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User currently offlineCarledwards From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 262 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5790 times:

Quoting StarGoldLHR (Reply 7):
I think Schabak and Schuco are in the bidding.

Gemini Jets have tendered in the large aircraft category stating that their models are 1:400 not 1:500 and can therefore offer more weight.

There is a rumour Corgi may even re-enter the aviation arena with an entirely new design for bmi.

hehe  Smile

Maybe they can commission schabak to make the real jets!



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User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4695 posts, RR: 42
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5783 times:

Schabak is bankcrupt BTW.


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User currently offlineStarGoldLHR From Heard and McDonald Islands, joined Feb 2004, 1529 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5691 times:

Personally I was quite surprised BMI was able to sell all those StarJets models on their flights to need a new batch so soon.


seriously though, I assume 20 jets is for bmi baby to replace the 737s ?
However is bmibaby seriously that healthy, they appear to be eaten alive where ever they go and with bmi themselves flying lots of empty aircraft from LHR, RJ's would seem like sense from LHR, and give baby the A320's but a waste of slots in reality.


Is this the long awaited large aircraft order to make a serious go of it ? - I think not, the baby 737-300s are quite old, and they have 19 to replace.

so it looks like baby is going for the small ERJs to replace the 737's, but is there any "regional" airlines making money on even smaller subsidiary airlines using solely ERJ's ?.

Maybe they might go commonality and get a combi fleet of A318-A320 ? - that would make a bit more sense



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User currently offlineLovinitflyboy From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 116 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5472 times:

from what i understand, the 20 aircraft are for bmi mainline, not Baby, or regional. plus an option for a further 20.

User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4920 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5437 times:

If these aircraft are for baby its quite clear there are no plans for baby to grow in the near future. 20 aircraft for 19 larger ones

Personally I hope they are for mainline. If it was a ERJ-190/5, it would be ideal for routes like LHR-LBA/MME/ABZ/HAJ. I guess further A320 family aircraft would be possible or even new long haul aircraft



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User currently offlineRainmaker From Brazil, joined Jan 2006, 115 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 5273 times:

Quoting StarGoldLHR (Reply 10):
but is there any "regional" airlines making money on even smaller subsidiary airlines using solely ERJ's ?.

Republic holdings in the US notwithstanding, Flybe is apparently very eager to introduce their new EMB190´s asap. They must think these jets make sense to their business plans.


User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7145 posts, RR: 57
Reply 14, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 5274 times:

Quoting LifelinerOne (Reply 6):
No, and they apparently don't need it either as they are leasing out one A330 to Virgin Nigeria

Really - are they shrinking to two aircraft? I have heard rumours that all long haul aircraft may be gone by the end of the year, but wasnt expecting it so soon.

Quoting Lovinitflyboy (Reply 11):
from what i understand, the 20 aircraft are for bmi mainline, not Baby, or regional. plus an option for a further 20

No - the airline hasnt stated which AOC its for. If its ERJ's - could we see a merging of Regional and Baby?

Quoting Humberside (Reply 12):
If these aircraft are for baby its quite clear there are no plans for baby to grow in the near future. 20 aircraft for 19 larger ones

Bmi will be sold before any of this happens anyway - but the 733's are the obvious aircraft to be replaced.



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User currently offlineLovinitflyboy From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 116 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 5204 times:

Quoting BestWestern (Reply 14):
No - the airline hasnt stated which AOC its for

Just the was it was worded in the compant magazie! Sorry if i got that wrong!!


User currently offlinePurpleBox From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 325 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4994 times:

Quoting BestWestern (Reply 14):
Really - are they shrinking to two aircraft? I have heard rumours that all long haul aircraft may be gone by the end of the year, but wasnt expecting it so soon.

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User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7145 posts, RR: 57
Reply 17, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4951 times:

Quoting PurpleBox (Reply 16):
Yes it's true..

So... what routes are going, or are they keeping the 763 for the summer.

Bmi - the airline that continues to amaze.



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User currently offlineZkojh From China, joined Sep 2004, 1696 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4901 times:

so whats happening with the cabin upgrades then on the a330's which were ment to be done by march. looks like bmi are going in for a complete change again!!


NZ 787-9 flying between PVG - AKL ! CAN'T WAIT!!
User currently offlinePurpleBox From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 325 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4603 times:

Quoting BestWestern (Reply 17):
So... what routes are going, or are they keeping the 763 for the summer.

...maybe they don't even know themselves...

PurpleBox.



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User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 20, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4602 times:

Whats the status on the A321s - are they still being gotten rid of?


What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineStargoldlhr From Heard and McDonald Islands, joined Feb 2004, 1529 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4450 times:

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 20):
Whats the status on the A321s - are they still being gotten rid of?

The A321's are going to be used on a LCY - LHR - Southend shuttle service.



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User currently offlineJakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4936 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4433 times:

Quoting Stargoldlhr (Reply 21):
The A321's are going to be used on a LCY - LHR - Southend shuttle service.

I do sincerely hope you are not being serious.....  Yeah sure


User currently offlineTheginge From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 1132 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4338 times:

Who knows the status of any BMI aircraft at the moment, a lot might depend on how the deal with BMED works!!

User currently offlineTimboflier215 From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 1336 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4328 times:

Quoting JakTrax (Reply 22):

He can't be - A321s can't operate into LCY. I think the A318 is the largest a/c allowed.

Seriously, bmi needs to be sold so that someone can actually do something truly worthwhile How they can hold 10-15% of the slots at LHR and still not make a proper go of things totally amazes me. Once great, now fast turning into a joke.


25 Lovinitflyboy : Thats what happens when you have an accountant running the show!! every corner gets cut to save money and at the same time turning the airline into a
26 Lite : I think this is where the merger with BMED will be the complete change of strategy for bmi, as I've said in the other post concerning the potential m
27 Humberside : Personally I dont think regional and baby would be a good fit. I doubt bmi could offer the same product on ABZ-Esjberg and NEMA-ALC and be successful.
28 Aerokiwi : Very interesting analysis, Lite. I suspect you're right, but does BMI Regional maintain a high standing in the business community?
29 Lite : To an extent, I agree, but just under five years ago, it used to work perfectly like that in the regions under the British Midland Commuter brand. Us
30 Post contains images Strathpeffer : I understand BMI Regional has a fairly reasonable reputation up here in ABZ, where they haul around a lot of oil related people. I myself have not sa
31 BMED : I've been on regional a number of times and they have a nice product. 2 Cabin crew between 49 people which means the service is fast. Its nice to get
32 JoFMO : I still can't find any confirmation for this rumor. Can somebody give me a link?
33 BestWestern : Or, like everyone else - down to one - and thats why the ERJ 170 - 190 would suit both BMIR, Baby and Mainline... But, isnt this all just conjecture
34 Jasond : Damn straight. Long haul routes being dropped plus the Paris situation and just when you have figured them out then comes this. Either they are on th
35 StarGoldLHR : Outside of London .. yes.. but BMI regional isnt going to fill an A320. BMED nameI assume will fade into memory, as BMI arent going to fly to the mid
36 AIR MALTA : I still can't believe BA is going to let BMED slip away. Remember BA was always there to buy other UK airlines like BCAL, Air Europe, Air Manx and Br
37 Lite : Press release now confirming the purchase of BMED by bmi bmi acquires control of British Mediterranean release date: 02/02/2007 British Midland plc an
38 GayrugbyMAN : Mioght see some B
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