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Which Airlines Still Serve With Metal Knives  
User currently offlineCchan From New Zealand, joined May 2003, 1761 posts, RR: 2
Posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5564 times:

Last week, I was on All Nippon Airways between Osaka and Hong Kong. When the meal was served, I was very surprised to see metal knife, metal fork, and metal spoon! Same on the way back.

Since Sep 11, most airlines have switched to plastics. Have a couple of question here:

1) Which airlines still serve with metal? (I also got metal knife on Royal Brunei back in 2002)

2) Do some governments require airlines to serve with plastics, or is it entirely the airline's choice?

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User currently offlineJJJ From Spain, joined May 2006, 1834 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5556 times:

I've had metal cutlery on Air nostrum, Portugalia (both regional airlines) and Ukraine International. Also on MEA (but that was on business class).

There are at least a couple more, but I can't remember right now.


User currently offlineKevin777 From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 1165 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5549 times:

In India, Indian Airlines as well as Jet Airways were kind enough to give me metal on flights this fall (in Y). Just ordinary knifes, no steak-knifes (as you wouldn't need one in the land of holy cows!), so not dangerous I guess; but who knows, in the mind of a mad terrorist they could maybe do some harm.

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User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6430 posts, RR: 38
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5524 times:

My grandma was in the CX First Class lounge (The Wing) last week and for dinner there was a full silver service and then she was about to ask where the knife was and saw this puny little plastic thing.. I mean, isn't this a bit over the top, even the first class lounge won't allow metal knives? Sounds a bit strange to me.


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User currently offlineKrist0f From Belgium, joined May 2005, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5522 times:

I know Iberia still does (at least in C class). I'm not sure about Y though. I flew IB from JNB to MAD this weekend in C and was enjoying my lovely in-flight cooked piece of beef with a very very blunt Iberia metal knife :P Oh well, at least with metal knives you know you're not get pieces of plastic stuck in the food  Wink I actually think the plastic knives are more dangerous, if you think of it, the metal ones are quite blunt and it's not like you can break them into any special shape whereas the plastic ones you can easily break into a very pointy shape! While they're strengthening security controls in Europe (with the limitations on liquids etc), why don't they just give everyone sandwiches instead of hot meals that way there's no more need for cutlery on planes :P

Cheers,

Kris.


User currently offlineFumitani From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5496 times:

SQ lounges at ICN, HKG, SIN all use metal knifes. Also SQ uses metal knifes.

OZ lounge at ICN uses metal knifes along with their service also. This includes sectors to the US

UA uses plastic everywhere. Including their arrivals lounge in SFO outside the secure area.


User currently offlineKnightsofmalta From Malta, joined Nov 2005, 1826 posts, RR: 19
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5490 times:

Quoting Cchan (Thread starter):
Since Sep 11, most airlines have switched to plastics. Have a couple of question here:

Only on flights to the States are knives made from plastik. On other routes moste airlines still use metal knives, at least in Business and First.


User currently offlineJAL777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5467 times:

American Airlines has started reintroducing silverware on some domestic first class flights.

User currently offlineAussiestu From Australia, joined Mar 2001, 780 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5467 times:

BA is using metal cutlery in Club and First on all flights. Except for some reason between SIN-SYD and SYD-SIN??? Anyone know why??

User currently offlineSQNo1 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 687 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5439 times:

I got metal knives on EK DXB-SIN and return, but not so on BHX-DXB and return.

Alex  wave 


User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 25
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5421 times:
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I had metal cutlery on SA (C-class) from IAD-JNB last week, with plastic knives on QF (F-class) from JNB-SYD, a few weeks prior to that.


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User currently offlineAg92 From India, joined Jul 2006, 1317 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5411 times:

I dont know why but I think that all airlines serving asian routes provide metal cutlery on all flights in all classes. I have flown around 10 times since Sep 11 round trip with various airlines from S2 to SQ and all provided metal cutlery

Regards


User currently offlineCOERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5411 times:

NW uses them(even on domestic flights).

User currently offlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3244 posts, RR: 22
Reply 13, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5394 times:

I've had metal cutlery on LH both in the first and in economy (I can only assume they use them in business too).

Quoting JAL777 (Reply 7):
American Airlines has started reintroducing silverware on some domestic first class flights.



Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 12):
NW uses them(even on domestic flights).

Interesting. I thought that the FAA wouldn't let them?

Tony



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User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8453 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5339 times:
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SAA use all metal on flights to Europe except to and from LHR where they use plastic knives.


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User currently offlineHaggis79 From Germany, joined Jun 2006, 1096 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5324 times:

I got metal knives in AF Y on several occasions, including flights to the US(can't really remember if on flights from the US as well)


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User currently offlineJet-lagged From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 872 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5316 times:

Over the last two weeks I was given metal knives in economy on Thai Airways, Hong Kong to Bangkok to Kathmandu, and back.

User currently offlineCgnnrw From Germany, joined May 2005, 1156 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5316 times:

Yes, AF uses metal cutlery in economy to/from the US. I flew AF to PHL this summer and received metal cutlery on both flights.

Aside from the so called "safety" aspect of plastic cutlery, which is cheaper for the airlines? Constantly replacing the plastic or washing the metal cutlery?



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User currently offlineGoAround From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 616 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 5275 times:

It's barmy. An airline metal knife can't pierce a bread roll, let alone a passenger. Besides which, what sort of terrorist would hinge their plot on using the metal knife from the meal service?! The metal fork is a good deal more dangerous!


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User currently offlineEastern023 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 871 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 5275 times:

I had metal cutlery on a LH flight FRA-IAD on coach lase year.


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User currently offlineQQflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2282 posts, RR: 13
Reply 20, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5197 times:

AA uses metal cutlery on all international flights in first and business class. Domestic first/business are in the process of getting metal back. Coach (all destinations) will remain plastic. AA has been adding metal cutlery back in stages over the past six months. It has taken some time while they await delivery of adequate supplies around the system. On domestic routes, you still may see plastic in first, but that won't be for too much longer.


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User currently offlineC010T3 From Brazil, joined Jul 2006, 3704 posts, RR: 19
Reply 21, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5151 times:

I also had metal cutlery on RG (FRA-GIG) and on TP (GIG-LIS and LIS-FRA) very recently.

User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 56
Reply 22, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5137 times:

CO can be added to the list too. All our international destinations carry them now as well.


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User currently offlineYYZYHZ From Canada, joined May 2006, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5124 times:

Over Christmas break I flew Air Canada Exec class from YHZ-YYZ, YYZ-ORD, and YYZ-YHZ, and all the cuterly was metal. Also when I flew in the business on bmi from ORD-MAN, the cuterly was also metal. I didn't get plastic until I flew US Airways in Envoy class from MAN-PHL....


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User currently offlineHALFA From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1354 posts, RR: 15
Reply 24, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5096 times:

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 6):
Only on flights to the States are knives made from plastik.

Not true. I've had plastic knives on some flights outside of the U.S., and metal knives on some flights inside the U.S.. Hawaiian Airlines uses metal knives on all flights in F Class.

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25 Post contains images SNATH : Oh, finally! Tony
26 OA260 : I flew Swiss from SKG to ZRH in J class and the cutlery was metal and nice ones at that!!! However I flew ZRH to DUB and it was plastic!!! Dont know w
27 GBOAC : Does BKK-SYD get plastic too? If so, I guess it's an Aussie regulation/requirement - if not, I guess it's coming from Singapore. FWIW, Club Europe ge
28 TLVFred : Just flew ELAL First & Business - all metal cutlery. They even take the kids into the cockpit midflight (with the marshalls watching!). Fred
29 Dufo : Lufthansa in Economy.. 4 weeks ago on MUC-SFO.
30 Post contains images Cjh2007 : LH and Aua use metal knifes... at least on non-US flights... Aua uses metal cutlery on all flights on C and Y, whereas whenever ive flown with luftha
31 Post contains images CRJpurser : Air Canada Jazz--Executive Class--18/10 Stainless Steel Domestic, and Trans-border However they have removed the Royal Doulton dinnerware from the Exe
32 YULWinterSkies : Well, the dangerous thing up there is the broken glass bottle. Metal knives and forks being dangerous is bulls**t. LX even in Y usually gives metal k
33 Travatl : On my last 4 trips to Europe from the US, I traveled on AF,LH, DL, and MAXjet. With the exception of DL, they all had metal cutlery, including knives.
34 Travatl : Oh and btw... per the TSA website, round bladed butter knives (the kind we're talking about being used by the airlines) are ALLOWED in your carry-ons.
35 Post contains links and images Superfly : Olympic Airways uses metal cutlery even in coach.
36 OA260 : Good old OA !!!!
37 Post contains images Superfly : I love that airline! My Athens - New York flight last summer was the best coach flight I've experienced since deregulation.
38 Goldorak : AF used plastic knives after 9/11 but only a few months after, they reintroduced metal knives (and I'm glad they did as I always found very hard to e
39 Analog : Not true... Yep. This passenger can confirm metal in F. Don't know about Y. (Crosses fingers for next EUA, shudders at upcoming transatlantic Y). In
40 LHboyatDTW : I had metal silverware/cutlery on my first KLM flight in Y last June. It was great to have that for a change with my pasta, but my expectations quickl
41 C010T3 : I passed through security at FRA last week and I was called to have my carry-ons checked, because there was something in my jacket. Then I realised I
42 LHStarAlliance : I flew on December LH FRA-NGO and I also had Metal Knife . But I think this are special knives impossible to hurt someone .
43 EWRCabincrew : I work the trans-Atlantic flights and can confirm that Y/C gets them too.
44 Fbgdavidson : It is indeed an Australian regulation. Could it be because CX fly from HKG to a number of Australian cities? As per the regulation above, that said I
45 Edoca : I was frequently flying KLM in 2003 and 2004 and remember they always had metal fork/knife/spoon on non-US-bound flights. I remember being on an AMS-M
46 SkyvanMan : KLM had metal knives last summer AMS-JRO in Y and TG I know has them in J and Premium Economy, in fact in PE we got 8 pieces of cutlery for each of th
47 Xaapb : yep! I flew CO to EWR on December and I was kind of amaze to see metal knives and forks. Greetings
48 EWRCabincrew : CO has had metal cutlery for a while now with the exception of flights to/from the UK and Italy. They have since changed their regulations and we are
49 Viscount724 : The plastic cutlery rules (fortunately mostly now gone) were a joke. I've had some plastic knives that were sharper than metal ones. And a smashed win
50 Levent : Flew EVA AIR BKK-TPE-LAX yesterday. All metal on first leg, and plastic knives on second. I mean, what's the point anyway? I am sure you can inflict s
51 SkyvanMan : Thats what I've always been thinking, as well as the fact that there are things that aren't banned that are sharper than a knife, I mean as someone e
52 Cchan : If I need a weapon, I would definitely choose a fork. The metal knives aren't sharp at all, and sometimes I have difficulties cutting up the bread. S
53 9MMAR : MH. In all classes both domestic and international.
54 Baron95 : AA is using metal knives with a short blad (about 2 inches) on international first/business. Interestingly enough, I saw some of them confiscated by s
55 TinkerBelle : yeah, OZ uses metal knives on their ICN-SFO-ICN flights. They also use metal chopsticks which are sharper than knives.
56 SwissA330 : Swiss still does, whole cabin (F, C, Y)
57 Post contains images Olympic707 : Actually, OA has both, metal and plastic during meal service. The metal cutlery is a very good quality and makes a great souvenir. Yes, OA is good! Y
58 Post contains images Superfly : I of course would never condone that.
59 Post contains images B52murph : Flew Omni, ATA and World on Patriot Express (AMC Charter) flights over the last 18 months. Both Omni (DC-10) and WOA (MD-11) had full metal cutlery on
60 Cchan : That's interesting.
61 TinkerBelle : It sure is.
62 IAHFLYR : I don't remember the CO flight toMXP not having metal stuff in BizFirst last year when we flew EWR-MXP....thought it was metal.[Edited 2007-01-31 14:
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