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Picture Of First Sukhoi Superjet 100 Fuselage  
User currently offlineENU From Netherlands, joined Nov 2006, 1166 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 22090 times:

The first RRJ 100 fuselage has arrived at Zhukovsky, which will be used for break tests at the labs there.

Picture: http://skyliner-aviation.de/viewphoto.main?LC=nav2&picid=3487

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User currently offlineDougbr2006 From Brazil, joined Oct 2006, 400 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 21905 times:

Looks strangely similar to an EMB170, why can't the Russians ever come up with their own concept !

User currently onlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3247 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 21890 times:

Quoting Dougbr2006 (Reply 1):
Looks strangely similar to an EMB170,

Actually, I think it looks more like the abandoned Dornier 728 project.


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User currently offlineBlueElephant From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 1813 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 21743 times:

Quoting SNATH (Reply 2):
Actually, I think it looks more like the abandoned Dornier 728 project.

I agree, with you, its actually quite strange the similarity. Take a look at those Cockpit windows, they're nearly identical.


User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2972 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 21622 times:

Quoting SNATH (Reply 2):
Actually, I think it looks more like the abandoned Dornier 728 project.

Uncanny!



A300B2/B4/6R, A313, A319/320/321, A333, A343, A388, 737-2/3/4/7/8/9, 747-3/4, 772/2E/2L/3, E170/190, F70, CR2/7, 146-3,
User currently offlineRikkus67 From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 1684 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 21255 times:

Checking the cockpit window style side-by-side, the RRJ's windows are much less tapered.

I do believe a number of companies (including Bombardier) went to Fairchild/Dornier to check the viability of the project when it went bankrupt. I would not be surprised if Sukhoi did a study of this aircraft when they were doing preliminary work on their own project.

OK, so Bombardier isn't exactly original in any of their other designs... I still believe they should have taken on the D728-928 project when they had the chance...

Enough about that...I think the RRJ will be a great success, given the amount of western technology being used in it.



AC.WA.CP.DL.RW.CO.WG.WJ.WN.KI.FL.SK.ACL.UA.US.F9
User currently offlineENU From Netherlands, joined Nov 2006, 1166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 20971 times:

Boeing is involved in the project, isn't it?

Beautiful aircraft though!

Sukhoi RRJ


[Edited 2007-01-29 20:46:51]

User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6373 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 20875 times:

Sure is and in my eyes it looks like an A318 without the winglets.

I hope it does well in the future.


User currently offlineGh123 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 20807 times:

Quoting Cricket (Reply 4):
Quoting SNATH (Reply 2):
Actually, I think it looks more like the abandoned Dornier 728 project.

Uncanny!

Dornier 728-Ski!

Reminds me of Concordski!


User currently offlineMetroliner From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 1067 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 20807 times:

Quoting ENU (Reply 6):
Beautiful aircraft though!

definitely - and with the prestige of sukhoi and boeing behind it, it's got a lot of potential. all the best to them.

toni



Set the controls for the heart of the Sun
User currently offlineChuchoteur From France, joined Sep 2006, 774 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 20649 times:

I have the feeling it will be let down by its engines...

I remember them at the paris air show 2 years ago, great aircraft, stunning receptionists, shame about the really bad brochures...

the hold cannot accept containers, and to describe it as "bulk" is exactly how they represented it in pictures...

at least you know what to expect for your luggage
 Smile


User currently offlineNaritaflyer From Japan, joined Apr 2006, 549 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 20639 times:

Quoting Dougbr2006 (Reply 1):
Looks strangely similar to an EMB170, why can't the Russians ever come up with their own concept !

How many ways are there to make a tube look different? I think all aircraft except for the 747 look similar.


User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4710 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 20623 times:

Quoting Chuchoteur (Reply 10):
I have the feeling it will be let down by its engines...

No, on the contrary ! Don't you know, SNECMA has designed most of the core ? I think the engine is far more modern than the competitors' GE CF34, which dates back to the seventies.

Quoting Chuchoteur (Reply 10):
the hold cannot accept containers

Neither can the competing aircraft, so that's unimportant.



BTW, the pic shows once again how big the An-124 is ! They even carried Tu-204 fuselages in them.



Exceptions confirm the rule.
User currently offlineChuchoteur From France, joined Sep 2006, 774 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 20554 times:

Quoting A342 (Reply 12):
Quoting Chuchoteur (Reply 10):
the hold cannot accept containers

Neither can the competing aircraft, so that's unimportant.

Actually, the A318 takes standard LD3 containers
 Smile


User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4710 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 20556 times:

Quoting Chuchoteur (Reply 13):
Actually, the A318 takes standard LD3 containers

No it doesn't.



Exceptions confirm the rule.
User currently offlineOwleye From Netherlands, joined Feb 2006, 962 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 20370 times:

Thank you ENU for posting the picture link. That's exciting news about the Sukhoi Superjet (that's the new name for their former 'Russian Regional Jet'-name)! Have the SAS partners still interest in this aircraft? Like Air Baltic?

http://skyliner-aviation.de/photos/polet-rrj-2.jpg


User currently offlineOwleye From Netherlands, joined Feb 2006, 962 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 20324 times:

Otherwise we have to change our pdf ad...

http://www.liladesign.com/downloads/LilaDesignBalticRRJ.pdf


User currently offlineCjh2007 From Austria, joined Jan 2007, 263 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 20325 times:

I dont trust the russians... another one of those flimsy attempts at a good basic concept...

Captain :" Roger that, let me just adjust the trim..., whoooops... button broke off... let me just glue that back on"



Is it the kerosene, or is it just me...
User currently offlineGraphic From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 20222 times:

Quoting Cjh2007 (Reply 17):
I dont trust the russians... another one of those flimsy attempts at a good basic concept...

Captain :" Roger that, let me just adjust the trim..., whoooops... button broke off... let me just glue that back on"

I think you're mind is stuck in the '80s. The russians have built some solid frames, look at how alot of their older jets are still flying today. That and the newer designs, the IL96, the TU204, and now this one are nice and modern.


User currently offlineDw747400 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 1265 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 20182 times:

Quoting Graphic (Reply 18):
That and the newer designs, the IL96, the TU204, and now this one are nice and modern.

I think a lot of the negativity surrounding Russian jets originates with poor operators as opposed to poor designs. I think operating economics and manufacturer support are the reasons we don't see them in the West, as opposed to the idea that they are just unsafe. And I'm sure they are getting better on economics, but product support can be a tough one!



CFI--Certfied Freakin Idiot
User currently offlineENU From Netherlands, joined Nov 2006, 1166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 20167 times:

Quoting Dw747400 (Reply 19):
That and the newer designs, the IL96, the TU204, and now this one are nice and modern.

Sure, like this TU-204!


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User currently offlineLHStarAlliance From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 20136 times:

Quoting SNATH (Reply 2):
Actually, I think it looks more like the abandoned Dornier 728 project.

Pity this Airplane don´t flies , it looks so good , LH had an option on 60 .

Quoting ENU (Thread starter):
The first RRJ 100 fuselage has arrived at Zhukovsky, which will be used for break tests at the labs there.

I remember reading an article of LH being interested on this A/C .Maybe they buy it for the LH Regional fleet in some years .

How much RRJ 100 has SU ordered?


User currently offlineDeC From Greece, joined Aug 2005, 616 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 19950 times:

Looks like the ERJ190.


DEC
User currently offlineMHO From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 209 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 19757 times:

Quoting A342 (Reply 12):
BTW, the pic shows once again how big the An-124 is ! They even carried Tu-204 fuselages in them.

Hey, Russian Matreshka Jets! Think they can make it to 7 nesting jets? Looks cool!



It's better to be a little behind than a big ass
User currently offlineENU From Netherlands, joined Nov 2006, 1166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 19757 times:

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 21):
How much RRJ 100 has SU ordered?

30 Superjet 95's and an option for a further 20 according to Wikipedia (not a very reliable source though).

[Edited 2007-01-30 00:02:09]

25 MidEx216 : I agree. I think nobody gives them half a chance anymore. It's all A v B. Not A v B v I v T. I would totally love to see some Il-96s and Tu-154s in A
26 KSUpilot : I agree. If anything they are equal or even stronger than Western Aircraft...look at the type of environment that they operate in. Any aircraft that
27 FlyDreamliner : Hey, I'm excited the russians finally made something that someone will buy. What is the production total on IL96 at? 17 or so? I'm sure SNECMA will do
28 Levg79 : I kind of doubt that BT will ever buy a Russian-made airplane due to the whole hatred of everything that is Russian. I think those 51 years of occupa
29 F14D4ever : Depends on if you're talking CF34-8 or CF34-10. The -10 is a new centerline engine, based on a 70% scale of the CFM56. It features 3D aero for fan, b
30 CV990A : Well- they did manage to convince the EBRD to help finance it, so clearly there are some Westerners who think it has some potential...
31 MIAMIx707 : Probably the first Russian jetliner that I don't find attractive. That thing is almost as ugly as the A318. I thought it would at least look better th
32 Art : I read some time ago that Boeing was involved in marketing and setting up the service side of the project. If that's correct, I would think that's a
33 Irobertson : Anyone find those cockpit windows HUGE?? They seem massive compared to standard western windows... The IL-96 is gorgeous, IMHO. Its a real shame that
34 OwlEye : Wait a minute. This SSJ project is a cooperation between Russian and Western aviation manufacturers and investors.
35 NoUFO : Those unqualified comments are annoying. From what I know they still are. Correct. Boeing, Snecma and Alenia more precisely. But Suchoj don't really
36 Bimmerkid19 : I hope to see this jet flying around! That would be soo cool to fly on that jet!
37 Post contains images OwlEye : Agree! For the SSJ it's a good thing western companies are involved which makes sales easier to western airlines. The sale price of this Superjet see
38 Post contains links Planemaker : Boeing's involvement would actually appear to be fairly limited - advisors only, judging from their own press releases... That's why Boeing Commercia
39 OwlEye : Why didn't Boeing step into the market of smaller jets?
40 Post contains images OV735 : Heh, funny. Although I imagine that this would more likely happen in one of those Boeings or Airbuses, made of plastic. Cheers, OV735
41 Post contains links and images OwlEye : Paint your own Sukhoi Superjet 100 at the 'entertainment' page at Sukhoi's official Superjet 100 website: http://www.sukhoi.superjet100.com/en_flash.h
42 Post contains links and images OwlEye : Is it an understatement that I find the Sukhoi Superjet 100 company livery design "different" than I expected for the introduction of a new aircraft?
43 A342 : It was based on a brand-new demonstrator core called the SM21, IIRC. Haha, the CFM56 also dates back to the seventies. I know, the -7 is from the nin
44 Boeing777/747 : In the next week, 6-13 February 2007, issue of 'Flight International' there will be a Superjet special.
45 Metroliner : you cannot be serious. signed, j.p. mcenroe
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