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User currently offlineUprightnlocked From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 123 posts, RR: 0
Posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1102 times:

I saw a commercial yesterday advertising Continental's new flights to LHR.

1. When did they get this right?
2. Under the bi-lateral agreement, does a UK airline get LHR-USA rights? If so, which one?

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User currently offlineAa737 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 849 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1047 times:

Are you sure the flight wasn't to LGW? AA and UA are the only american airlines allowed to serve LHR. VS and BA are the uk airlines that fly LHR-USA.

User currently offlineUprightnlocked From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1034 times:

Aa737-
That is what I thought. I am 100% positive that the advert was for new service to LHR.


User currently offlineContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1037 times:

No way. Continental serves LHR via its alliance with Virgin Atlantic. However, Virgin operates all flights into LHR. Continental flies to Gatwick from IAH,
CLE, and EWR.

Bermuda II has NOT been scrapped, so that's totally impossible. You must
have read the advert wrong.



User currently offline747firstclass From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1028 times:

Sounds like it could be a codeshare with Virgin. If CO or any other airline got new slots into LHR from the US it would be banner headlines im sure.

User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1023 times:

I don't know ContinentalEWR, I flew Continental last Sunday, and the route map in the Continental magazine sure looks like there's Continental-operated flights to Heathrow.

BTW, that was my first flight on Continental. I was VERY impressed. (737-500, on-time, great service).



An unexamined life isn't worth living.
User currently offlineNickofatlanta From Australia, joined May 2000, 1488 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1017 times:

Are you sure the advert was not for CO's new service to London's Stansted airport from EWR?

CO definitely has not announced new service to LHR on its own planes. UA and AA remain the only US airlines permitted to fly into LHR with their own equipment.


User currently offlineAa737 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 849 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1014 times:

I forgot about the VS codeshare to LHR. That is probably what you read. I know people that have booked a VS ticket and ended up on a CO planes into London, they don't make it clear that the flight is actually a code-share.

The only way CO could ever serve LHR with their own planes is if Bermuda II (i think that's what it is called) is modified to allow British Midland and either CO or DL to serve USA from LHR.


User currently offline24291 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1004 times:

I could have sworn that both Delta and Continental won limited access to LHR and that it was reported at least six months ago. I remember being surprised at the time that a big deal was not made about the news here in this forum. While I know very few details and am too lazy to go and look up a real source, this kind of suggests that my memory is somewhat intact.

User currently offlineContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1001 times:

Heathrow IS on CO's route map because it buys seats on Virgin flights. CO aircraft DO NOT land at LHR. Neither DL nor CO have won the rights to fly
to LHR. The issue has not been settled yet and is far from resolved.



User currently offlineNickofatlanta From Australia, joined May 2000, 1488 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 987 times:

There was speculation earlier this year that an agreement had been reached for CO and DL to serve LHR with their own planes in exchange for BD having the same privilege. It hasn't happened yet.

User currently offlineRedraider From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 531 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 974 times:

Maybe they will just fly there anyway, bilaterals be damned!

What would happen if a "rogue" airline sold seats and flew to an airport it wasn't authorized to fly to? What would happen?



My wife can't wrestle, but you should see her box.
User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 51
Reply 12, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 955 times:

Yes my friend, I do know how to read a route map. My point is that based on the map legend, the color of the line to LHR indicates it is a Continental-operated flight, not a code share. I'm not saying this is correct, just relaying my observation.


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User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 929 times:

Having just read that same CO route map over the weekend, I will state that you are mistaken and that the LHR service is by VS, with LGW and STN by CO.

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