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Lufthansa CEO Wants More Mergers In Europe  
User currently offlineLHStarAlliance From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3091 times:

Hello,

Aero :

This text was translated by an Internet automatic Translator .

Quoting Aero.de(translated):
LONDON (DPA) - Lufthansa boss Wolfgang Mayrhuber has advertised to other unions between European airlines in the competition with US-American Airlines. Airlines of Europe would have to recognise the chance of the common action, said Mayrhuber of "Financial Times" (Monday issue). " Otherwise will sell we us bit by bit to supplier from the USA or the Middle East. " After the no of Lufthansa for the takeover of the groggy Alitalia taken care Mayrhuber to damp expectations, Lufthansa can swallow in the foreseeable future another European competitor. The Lufthansa boss about operating the finance-strong competitors from the Arabian space, under it of emirate, and the coalescence attempts expressed fears between US societies. There is the danger that in the USA a competitor " by 1000 airplanes " originates. The Europeans would have to arm themselves against it. Consequences are necessary for the case that the USA would not bring for an opening of her airline market. Up to now foreign airlines may take part only with up to 25 percent in US-American Airlines.

Original Text:

Quoting Aero.de:
LONDON (dpa) - Lufthansa-Chef Wolfgang Mayrhuber hat für weitere Zusammenschlüsse zwischen europäischen Fluggesellschaften im Wettbewerb mit US-amerikanischen Airlines geworben. Europas Fluglinien müssten die Chance des gemeinsamen Handelns erkennen, sagte Mayrhuber der «Financial Times» (Montagausgabe). «Ansonsten werde wir uns Stück für Stück an Anbieter aus den USA oder dem Nahen Osten verkaufen.»

Nach dem Nein der Lufthansa zur Übernahme der angeschlagenen Alitalia bemühte sich Mayrhuber, Erwartungen zu dämpfen, die Lufthansa könne in absehbarer Zeit einen anderen europäischen Wettbewerber schlucken.

Befürchtungen äußerte der Lufthansa-Chef über das Agieren der finanzstarken Mitbewerber aus dem arabischen Raum, darunter Emirates, und die Fusionsbestrebungen zwischen US-Gesellschaften. Es bestehe die Gefahr, dass in den USA ein Wettbewerber «mit 1000 Flugzeugen» entsteht. Dagegen müssten sich die Europäer wappnen.

Konsequenzen seien für den Fall nötig, dass die USA sich nicht zu einer Öffnung ihres Luftverkehrsmarktes durchrängen. Bislang dürfen sich ausländische Fluggesellschaften nur mit bis zu 25 Prozent an US-amerikanischen Airlines beteiligen.

http://www.aero.de/news.php?varnewsid=2398

Konstantin

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User currently offlineMagyarorszag From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3046 times:

Lufthansa plea to US

Lufthansa sees EU mergers if U.S. talks fail: FT


User currently offlineC010T3 From Brazil, joined Jul 2006, 3652 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2937 times:

Yes, LH should go for Austrian and LOT! SAS should go for Finnair and Icelandic!

User currently offlineLHStarAlliance From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2919 times:

Quoting C010T3 (Reply 2):
Yes, LH should go for Austrian and LOT! SAS should go for Finnair and Icelandic!

LH should go for :

BD , OS and SAS .


User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 8741 posts, RR: 28
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2775 times:

They should invent a better internet translater first. Horrible!

As usual, Mayrhuber brings it to the point. He is running a tight ship with LH and profit is more important than market share. Good show.

On the low side of the market, AZ is losing 1 Million Euro a day and across the pond mergers and acquisition bankers are trying to prove for the umpteenst time that 2 x - nakes + . It does, in their own pockets in the form of fees and boni. The merged mega carriers will fail again and see the chapter 11 bankruptcy judges for another time. Good againfor the laywers, another couple of hundred millions in fees.

Hard times for companies with a straight business plan? Walk the line, Mr. Mayrhuber. Quality and sound financial stability will always succeed.



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User currently offlineAndaman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2734 times:

Quoting C010T3 (Reply 2):
Yes, LH should go for Austrian and LOT! SAS should go for Finnair and Icelandic!

SK>AY wouldn't work, Finnair is lot smaller than SAS but in a much better shape.
Actually Finnair has said they would be interested in buying SAS's long haul division  Smile


User currently offlineC010T3 From Brazil, joined Jul 2006, 3652 posts, RR: 19
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2708 times:

Quoting Andaman (Reply 5):
SK>AY wouldn't work, Finnair is lot smaller than SAS but in a much better shape.
Actually Finnair has said they would be interested in buying SAS's long haul division

As long as they don't migrate to OW, I wouldn't have a problem with that.


User currently offlineLHStarAlliance From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2690 times:

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 4):
They should invent a better internet translater first. Horrible!

Hehe, sorry just found this one on Internet

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 4):
Mr. Mayrhuber. Quality and sound financial stability will always succeed.

I agree completely , it´s the "A und O " for an Airline , that wants to be profitable.


User currently offlineStargoldLHR From Heard and McDonald Islands, joined Feb 2004, 1529 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2648 times:

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 3):
BD , OS and SAS .

Lufthansa already has 30% stakeof BMI, with an agreed deal for another 51% in the future, I thought they had a stake in SAS and OS as well ?



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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 8741 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2599 times:

Quoting StargoldLHR (Reply 8):

Lufthansa already has 30% stakeof BMI, with an agreed deal for another 51% in the future,

I think its 20% and they wish that Bishop will never force them to exercise that option.

It's a lousy deal for LH and a good one for Bishop. SAS might be an option in he long run but OS will rather go other ways. I mean, how many hubs does LH need in that region?



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User currently offlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 2927 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2590 times:

Quoting StargoldLHR (Reply 8):
Lufthansa already has 30% stakeof BMI, with an agreed deal for another 51% in the future, I thought they had a stake in SAS and OS as well ?

I don't think LH has a stake in SK, but I'm not sure about the others.
I might be wrong though.

-CXfirst



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User currently offlineTheginge From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 1126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2511 times:

I could see them taking over, or increasing the stake in an airline in the UK, no prizes for guessing which one I am thinking of in light of that airline taking over another UK airline!!!

User currently offlineLHStarAlliance From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2332 times:

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 9):
ut OS will rather go other ways. I mean, how many hubs does LH need in that region?

I agree LH should buy othr airlines in oither regions like BD or JK , but IMO SK would be the best Takeover by LH .


User currently offlineTR From UK - England, joined May 2001, 953 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2310 times:

Quoting StargoldLHR (Reply 8):
I thought they had a stake in SAS and OS as well ?

Lufthansa has no stake in SAS

Quoting Andaman (Reply 5):
Finnair is lot smaller than SAS but in a much better shape

Depends on how you define "better shape". SAS has again become a money maker, though the results are far from impressing. However the same should be said about Finnair. Actually I am not sure that either has any reason to point fingers at the other  Wink


User currently offlineAndaman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2298 times:

Quoting TR (Reply 13):

Depends on how you define "better shape". SAS has again become a money maker, though the results are far from impressing. However the same should be said about Finnair. Actually I am not sure that either has any reason to point fingers at the other

Yeah you are right, no pointing, but SK going for AY not realistic now.


User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 8741 posts, RR: 28
Reply 15, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2288 times:

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 12):

I agree LH should buy othr airlines in other regions like BD or JK , but IMO SK would be the best Takeover by LH

I think that I said that LH would rather nix the present stock option for BD. LH is alway very cautious when it comes to investments. Air Dolomiti made sense, O am not sure of JK or SK would.

The ball game will change anyhow once the new rules are set, meaning that traffic rights will be under EU control.



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User currently offlineAndaman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2261 times:

Perhaps LH goes for SAS, and BA goes for Finnair + Icelandic and volá, a big part of Northern-Europe is organized!  Smile And EU would be happy too?

User currently offlineLHStarAlliance From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2250 times:

Quoting Andaman (Reply 16):
Perhaps LH goes for SAS, and BA goes for Finnair + Icelandic and volá, a big part of Northern-Europe is organized! And EU would be happy too?

Yeah , BA for AY , Icelandic and IB
LH for SK , JK , OS , LOT .


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