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User currently offlineMbj-11 From Jamaica, joined Aug 2000, 386 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7552 times:

Its official, cabinet has approved Air Jamaica's request for their new business plan which involves going to a fully boeing fleet to save money. Go figure. Anyway, I think Mr. Conway CEO of the airline formerly of Continental has pulled one off here. Its a pity the Buses will be traded for 737-300, 757-200's and 767 (whatever they decide). The planes looked absolutely fabulous in the scheme, but such is life.
http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20070131/lead/lead7.html


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User currently offlineTjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2474 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7450 times:

Where does it say the type of A/C JM is getting to replace the Airbus' will be 733, 752, and 767-?00 equipment?

[Edited 2007-01-31 16:02:08]


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User currently offlineDAYflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7435 times:

Well since CO is getting rid of a number of 733's, thats the easy part. There are also plenty of good 767 out there to be had. The problem will be getting the 757's.......


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User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 7371 times:

They should have went after U2's 733, they were amongst the last off the line. Also available are OK's and as you said CO's fleet

Quoting DAYflyer (Reply 2):
There are also plenty of good 767 out there to be had

Not really.



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User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4112 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 7358 times:

Quoting DAYflyer (Reply 2):
The problem will be getting the 757's.......

Especially with DL grabbing all of the old TWA P&W birds from AA, and FedEx trying to lock down all of the RR powered 752s they can find. For an out of production model, the 752 certainly is in demand! But they can offer many connections to many parts of North America and Jamaica and force AA, DL, AC and the rest of the Canadian charters (Skyservice, AirTransat) along with others to compete to get to places like MBJ where resort operators are looking for more people to come and spend $$$ during the cold, dark (& in the case of SLC; polluted!  yuck  ) winter!



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User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 7230 times:

Hmm so it got approved. Still not to pleased about the 733 though. How far will that take them from Jamaica? The 752s, I know will be on the Jamaica/New York, Eastern Caribbean/New York routes and possible Jamaica / LA. That leaves all the rest to the 733s as they would be acquiring more 737s that 757s. Lets see how it plays out.


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User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7508 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 7184 times:

Cayman uses 733's to ORD,so MBJ isn't that much further...


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User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 7154 times:

Quoting United_Fan (Reply 6):
Cayman uses 733's to ORD,so MBJ isn't that much further...

MBJ is in fact slightly closer isn't it. So I guess they are safe.



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User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4112 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 7079 times:

Quoting Captaink (Reply 5):
Still not to pleased about the 733 though. How far will that take them from Jamaica?

South Florida, which has a fairly large community of Jamaicans. MIA, FLL and PBI are all within easy reach of KIN and MBJ for a 733.



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User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 7049 times:

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 8):
South Florida, which has a fairly large community of Jamaicans. MIA, FLL and PBI are all within easy reach of KIN and MBJ for a 733.

South Florida I did not doubt, that is a pretty short flight from Jamaica. But I was thinking about JM's other destinations, ORD, YYZ, PHL, BWI etc... However as United_Fan pointed out, that Cayman uses their 733s from GCM - ORD, then JM should have no problem using theirs.



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User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4112 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6999 times:

Quoting Captaink (Reply 9):
South Florida I did not doubt, that is a pretty short flight from Jamaica. But I was thinking about JM's other destinations, ORD, YYZ, PHL, BWI etc... However as United_Fan pointed out, that Cayman uses their 733s from GCM - ORD, then JM should have no problem using theirs.

Some 738s would be much nicer for those routes.  wink 



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User currently offlineUsair320 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 991 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 6911 times:

Sad news. Those Airbuses looked sharp in JM's scheme.

User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16308 posts, RR: 56
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 6855 times:

Quoting DAYflyer (Reply 2):
Well since CO is getting rid of a number of 733's, thats the easy part.

There is a plentyful supply of used 733's anyway.

Quoting DAYflyer (Reply 2):
There are also plenty of good 767 out there to be had.

762 yes, 763 not so much. I doubt JM would want to add used 762's.

Quoting DAYflyer (Reply 2):
The problem will be getting the 757's.......

Not really. There is a healthy used market for 752's. They may not stay on the market for long, but they are available.

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 4):
FedEx trying to lock down all of the RR powered 752s they can find.

So Fedex is only acquiring RR 752's? Not PW?

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 4):
Especially with DL grabbing all of the old TWA P&W birds from AA

DL has only committed to 13 of the 19 that AA is removing from service so far.



Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineMbj-11 From Jamaica, joined Aug 2000, 386 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 6765 times:

The mention about the AC to be used was made about a month ago. As many of you have said, I think the 737-300's are a waste (no disrespect to lovers of that aircraft), I would've even preferred ERJ-190's to be honest. The 737-300 is kinda outta date, but then again, isn't JM's management style?


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User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 6612 times:

Quoting Captaink (Reply 9):
that Cayman uses their 733s from GCM - ORD, then JM should have no problem using theirs.

KX operates them on GCM-BOS too which is longer than the aforementioned routes.

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 10):
Some 738s would be much nicer for those routes.

x2, but JM is currently not in the financial position to acquire Boeing 737-800s.

JM is really going to shoot themselves in the foot by getting old Boeings. I wonder what is going to happen to the LAX route which is out of the 733's range and cannot support Boeing 757.

Cheers,
MD90fan  wave 



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User currently offlineHeavierthanair From Switzerland, joined exactly 14 years ago today! , 799 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 6513 times:

G´day

Seems they are selling off the family silver to stay afloat and raise the quote: "US$60 million to finance its capital requirements".

How can you possibly increase efficiency by buying outdated and less efficient aircraft. I just wonder what the other 4 items contained in Buchanan´s five-point strategy are that is intended to increase the "efficiency".

Another candidate of justplanes.com´s defunct airline list?

Cheers

Peter



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User currently offlineERAUgrad02 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1227 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 6400 times:

Maybe they'll add winglets to the 737/757 to squeeze as much range as they can get. These planes look "sporty" with winglets.


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User currently offlineZeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 9180 posts, RR: 76
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 6309 times:

Quoting Mbj-11 (Thread starter):
fully boeing fleet to save money.



Quoting Mbj-11 (Thread starter):
Buses will be traded for 737-300, 757-200's and 767 (whatever they decide).

Sorry, cannot see the money savings there.



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User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4112 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 6262 times:

Quoting Yyz717 (Reply 12):
So Fedex is only acquiring RR 752's? Not PW?

There are enough used ones out there on leases as well (Skyservice rejects?). But none the less, the 752 is going to be hard to get due to it's performance. I'm told RR powered 752s are more abundant than the P&W versions.

Quoting Yyz717 (Reply 12):
DL has only committed to 13 of the 19 that AA is removing from service so far.

13 is the "official" count thus far, but the rumor mill I'm hearing says it might be as many as 15 or 16. JM could pick a couple of them up and sign on with DL to have the work done on them at their ATL Tech Ops Center.



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User currently offlineXkorpyoh From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 819 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 6021 times:

Where are they getting those 757 from?


(fair use excerpt)
ir Jamaica has plans for all-Boeing 757 fleet (02/01/2007)

By Gay Nagle Myers

Air Jamaica senior management presented its new five-year business plan to the Jamaican Cabinet earlier this week and included swapping its current fleet of 15 Airbus aircraft for an all-Boeing 757 fleet beginning later this year.

The plan, which was approved by the Cabinet Jan. 30, is aimed at resuscitating the cash-strapped national airline and making it more a more cost-efficient operation, according to Paul Pennicook, senior vice president of marketing and sales.

He said the government had requested a plan from Air Jamaica that would make the carrier more viable and eliminate financial losses.

The initial stages of implementation will incur costs, "somewhere in the area of $125 million over a three- to five-year period, but in the long run we will reduce our debt and our costs," Pennicook said.

The aircraft swapping will take place on a staggered basis over an 18- to 24-month period, beginning in the second half of this year.

The first routes to fly the 757 aircraft will "probably be the routes from New York [Kennedy] to Montego Bay and Kingston [Jamaica] and from Toronto to Kingston," according to Pennicook.

He described the 757 aircraft as "more suited to our mission. It carries 188 passengers and has much more room for baggage. It will carry a larger payload and fly a longer route much more efficiently."

http://www.travelweekly.com/articles.aspx?articleid=54880 (by subscription)


User currently offlineERAUgrad02 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1227 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5917 times:

That could be too much airplane for some routes. I think it was said boeing had some used newer build 75's to sell them. I still think they should get some 737-300/-400s. just my .02 Good luck finding that many 757's. I can wait to see what they do.


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User currently offlineFpofllflyboi From Bahamas, joined Jun 2005, 234 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (7 years 9 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5877 times:

Quoting United_Fan (Reply 6):
Cayman uses 733's to ORD,so MBJ isn't that much further...

True, my only concern is with all the baggage/cargo that JM passengers are accustomed to transporting. Wouldn't weight factor in, when it comes to the amount of cargo and passengers versus the range? Or do the Cayman residents carry just as much baggage?


User currently offline2travel2know From Panama, joined Apr 2005, 3580 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5764 times:

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 14):
KX operates them on GCM-BOS too which is longer than the aforementioned routes.

TA flew B737-300 between SAL and SFO, that's a long route too.

JM shouldn't be looking to do some patch work to the current fleet with those B737-700, some intelligent management would have waited a bit with the A320/321 and replace them with brandnew E175/195.
Also, those B757 won't be enough for the amount of baggage the Jamaicans travel with, If JM wants Boeing, then those B737-200/300/400 would be ideal. Remember AA still flies A300 (a similar B767 aircraft) between U.S.A. and PAP and the Haìtians travel habits aren't that different from the Jamaicans.

Now, I would like to know, does the B767-400ER has range for London-Jamaica?



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User currently offlineMbj-11 From Jamaica, joined Aug 2000, 386 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (7 years 9 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5758 times:

All 757's huh? Hmmm, this definitely sounds like Mr. Conway at work. Have nothing against the man, just sounds like a bit of CO if I do say so. Anyway, 757's to Florida, ATL, EWR,JFK,PHL ain't bad. But for the rest of the routes....kinda too much. The problem with JM is they have among the largest loyal fliers in the world for that size airline, but they don't fly often. So I can see 757's going great for Summer and Christmas, but outside of that period, they might as well be using A318's or 19's.
Well we'll see how it goes, but JM still needs to rid itself of those parasitic, free flying , upper class management.



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User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (7 years 9 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5690 times:

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 14):
I wonder what is going to happen to the LAX route which is out of the 733's range and cannot support Boeing 757.

They will have to really sell that route, as the 757 is the only aircraft that can be used on that route if they do go with the Boeings.

Quoting Fpofllflyboi (Reply 21):
True, my only concern is with all the baggage/cargo that JM passengers are accustomed to transporting.

Take away, New York, Toronto, and maybe MIami and you have routes that are supported by tourists, the 737 should be fine. The 757s are planned to be used on the NY routes.

Quoting Mbj-11 (Reply 23):
The problem with JM is they have among the largest loyal fliers in the world for that size airline, but they don't fly often. So I can see 757's going great for Summer and Christmas, but outside of that period, they might as well be using A318's or 19's.

Good Point.



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25 Fpofllflyboi : So then why not the 737/w since they want to go Boeing? Further, how much of a huge difference is there between the 737/w and the 318/319 when you fa
26 MD90fan : You obviously don't understand how much cargo is a part of a Caribbean airline's buisiness. Replacing A32x with E-jets would be a disaster for JM in
27 Captaink : The A32x is already a disaster on some of their routes during peak times. I concur, the EMBs are not a viable option for JM.
28 Georgiabill : Just a thought is this a prelude to Air Jamaica and BWIA merging?
29 Captaink : That would honestly be the day. While possibly a great idea, I am very sckeptical as it actualy happening. P.S. BWIA died, we now have Caribbean Airl
30 2travel2know : So then those A320/321 should be replaced with a fleet of Next Generation B737, -600/700/800/900 (yes even the -600) not with B737-300 or even E195..
31 Captaink : Ideally yes. But their current financial situation does not allow them to replace the airbus fleet with 737NGs. That is why they looking at the 733s
32 2travel2know : Would those B757-200 be a disaster for the Jamaicans travelers on peak seasons? Yes, IMHO Yes, it'll...
33 MBJ2000 : Sorry for my ignorance, but what's the exact fleet of JM at them moment, some people mentioned A32x? cheers
34 Danny : Sounds like the guy is still acting for CO case not JM case.
35 PanAmOldDC8 : Air Jamaica and Caribbean Airways are in talks for a possible merger, Caribbean Airways will be flying the 738, so it makes sense to dump the Airbus
36 MD90fan : Hey MBJ2000, here is what I can gather: 10 A320-200 6 A321-200 2 A340-300
37 Magyar : So for Air Jamaica the way out of the hole is to become the trash-can of Continental?!? I guess they sell those buses (if they own them) and get dirt
38 Captaink : Why would the 752 be a disaster for the Jamaicans on peak seasons?
39 Yellowtail : Quite often with tech stop...when I flew it we stop in Mazatlan. The busses are all leased (from ILFC if IRC).....as for CO...jsut a thought....what
40 Jetlanta : They save money the same way you save money by buying a 10 year old Honda Civic versus a brand new Honda Fit. The Fit may be newer and a little more
41 Post contains images SB : So replace a "a modern and efficient fleet" with ... err ... hum ... to save money I guess that's the only logic in the affair ... But let's not forge
42 2travel2know : Compared to the B767-200/300/400. Again there's reason behind AA use of wide-bodies on the U.S.-Haïti routes, IMHO, JM should know that thinking too
43 Tsnamm : What exactly would they replace the A340's with??? a 737? I doubt it...like previously mentioned, cargo is a big monry maker, and an all narrow body f
44 Captaink : But remember that their sudden liking for the 752s are not out of the blue. They used the 752s on during recent peak periods with great sucess. SO th
45 Mbj-11 : Look possibly for JM to start operating phased out CO aircraft that's just my thoughts. The pilots are extremely unhappy particularly at flying 737-30
46 Captaink : I will say this, CO takes good care of their airplanes, so the 733s should not be in such terrible condition. Does anyone know if CO has IFE on their
47 ERAUgrad02 : Last I read they were removing them since sony no longer makes parts for the center aisle monitors. So my guess is no. But this doest stop the new ai
48 ERAUgrad02 : I was checking out the current aircraft they are flying and something tells me they will be changing the paint scheme. I cant see this scheme looking
49 Captaink : I think it was on MSFS or something but the paint scheme doesn't look too bad on Boeings. It is a strong colour combination, but i hope they don't de
50 Post contains links Mbj-11 : Here it is straight from the horses mouth. http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/glean...r/20070204/business/business1.html
51 Post contains images 2travel2know : So according to the news in the Gleaner, JM is looking into Venezuela and Brazil. I can see JM B737-300 flying to MAR and CCS, but Brazil, where? MAO
52 Caribbean484 : I read this business plan report by the CEO and to be quite brute and frank that CEO should have been sacked since last year. He is going to have a he
53 2travel2know : Or than PTY... specially if CM is to someday increase frequency to KIN and finally start POS.
54 Captaink : Forget not that AeroMexico is also trying the same thing with connections in Mexico City. So JM would have some serious competition with this South A
55 MBJ2000 : " target=_blank>http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/glean....html "Conway noted that Boeing was prepared to give Jamaica a good deal on the 15 new aircraft
56 Caribbean484 : I wonder myself. Because this is the most rediculous thing I've ever heard. Conway better know what he is doing because any more failure will not be
57 Post contains links Reggaebird : More News On Air Jamaica (by Reggaebird Nov 28 2006 in Civil Aviation)?searchid=3118198&s=More+News+On+Air+Jamaica#ID3118198 Now wait a minute! The re
58 Mbj-11 : Conway, must be paid by Boeing, that absurd statement wreaks of a strong bias to me.
59 Post contains images WestJetYQQ : Good for Air Jamaica. I am always to see those 2 words, Going Boeing! Cheers Carson
60 Caribbean484 : The fleet change is intended to be on par with Caribbean Airlines, which has an extensive knowledge of 737 maintenance capabilities. By years end the
61 Post contains images Reggaebird : Your statement equating JM's plan with Caribbean Airlines' plan is scary. Caribbean is bound to fail for reasons that I won't go into here. Let's get
62 Post contains links and images BWIA 772 : Caribbean/Caribe/ Cara�bes Aviation Part 7 is where you can discuss that. I am sure that will end part 7 and launch part 8 in less than 2 days
63 Caribbean484 : That must be the most arrogant and ludicrous statement I've ever heard. Lets just state the facts. 1) JM never maybe a profit since its inception des
64 Mbj-11 : No need to raise the temperature guys, lets just hope the management of both airlines can do what is right for the airlines instead of a few big wigs
65 Reggaebird : JM has had significantly higher market share, passenger numbers and penetration in the Caribbean, UK and US marrket. JM has also had greater name rec
66 Post contains images A388 : HAHAHA, good one because it actually IS true.... A388
67 Caribbean484 : My friend if you really step out of your arrogant and naccissitic attitude you will realise that JM was a shinking ship before the gov't took back co
68 A388 : Very well said. A388
69 Post contains images BWIA 772 : So is CAL coming back to BGI i.e direct US service to BGI Caribbean 484 so you have piece of baje in you Regards[Edited 2007-02-05 03:13:10]
70 N1120A : They will fly it on a 757. The route is pretty well supported. Aquisition costs for one. Lower trip costs and less exposure for the 733 for another.
71 Cadet57 : IDK, those birds must have a TON of cyles they way U2's turn times are.
72 N1120A : WN has very similar turn times to U2 and still flies 1984 vintage 733s.
73 Reggaebird : BW always touted its dominance on the BGI routes. Big deal! Far more people fly to Kingston annually than to BGI....and that's not even Jamaica's mai
74 Caribbean484 : Yep. My father's side. Love then but they crazy. lol wish i could back to BGI soon but have to finish university first. You still don't understand. W
75 Cadet57 : Maybe. But for a Used plane probly not the best option when the CO birds probly have less hours.
76 Akizidy214 : "Conway noted that Boeing was prepared to give Jamaica a good deal on the 15 new aircraft, saying it was for the American planemaker a chance to estab
77 N1120A : The CO birds are old themselves and don't exactly fly the lightest schedule. Not a chance What is wrong with perfectly servicable 733s and 752s that
78 Akizidy214 : Did I say there was? But if they have such a good deal on the table why would they let it pass? These a/c would be more efficient and allow them to b
79 N1120A : Sure, but current time finances need to be taken into account and JM's are not exactly where they can start shelling out half-three quarters of a bil
80 777ER : Why are people saying that JM is getting B733s, B752s and B767s, when I can't find it anywhere in the article? JM operate A343s, so the B772ER would o
81 Captaink : You may be Jamiacan but I once checked in JM flights daily, and my brother currently works with JMs Customer Relations department. Since day one, I d
82 Captaink : The size of the airline in this case does not predict the airlines survival. The size of markets and the choice of carrier amongst the available airl
83 FlyDreamliner : My guess is this - Boeing is ready to make an unbeatable deal with some pretty attractive financing. The A343s will give way to 767s, smaller, more fl
84 2travel2know : Can the Jamaican Tourist Industry survive without almost all those JM MBJ flights? Yes, I think so. JM management has to eventually realize what kind
85 PanAmOldDC8 : Hey guys remember the CWC, we got to stand together. I can see JM and Caribbean mergering in two years and that will put to rest this West Indian inf
86 Mbj-11 : All you guys still don't get it, can't you see that the management of both airlines suck? Caribbean management at its finest I say. CA/BW vs Air J, ca
87 Post contains images Captaink : You are absolutely correct.
88 Caribbean484 : You hit the nail on the head. While I respect Reggaebird's opinion and nationalism towards JM he still don't understand that this nationalism blinded
89 Yellowtail : They thought they could do this craziness too when they tried to serve BZE..they thought they could gets lots of connecting traffic....they were wron
90 2travel2know : It's all about making a good and attractive hub. IMHO, JM hasn't done a good job about it yet.
91 Mbj-11 : Out of curiosity, did Conway really save CO? Or is it a case of taking the healm on the way back up?
92 PanAmOldDC8 : How true, I know that we can have our differences especially at cricket, but I think that as a small group of nations we have to stick together, othe
93 Mbj-11 : "The Caribbean has been too long at each others throats and we need to show a united force, that is the only way we will achieve anything." Well said,
94 Drerx7 : Will the color scheme change with the fleet?
95 JMBWEEBOY : As a North American outsider who loves both carriers, its sad to see all this infighting about which airline BW or JM is better than the other. Two we
96 Fpofllflyboi : Easier said than done, unfortunately. Most, if not all Caribbean countries are like this when it comes to Nationalistic Pride even if it means the de
97 A388 : Very true unfortunately. To get back on topic, I think the 757 will look stunning in the JM livery. Will JM use the 757 to CUR? JM sends the A321 to
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