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Alaska Questions - New Combis And Retro Livery  
User currently offlineStrathpeffer From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 79 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5712 times:

Two questions for you:

1) What news on the 734 combis? These are now long overdue and their non-arrival must be beginning to cause real problems. I'm really looking forward to seeing these - from both inside and out.

2) What news on the retro livery? A selection of these appeared on a.net and alaskasworld.com a few months back, waiting for employee votes, but has now gone rather quiet (my vote, if i'd had one, would've been for 'Golden Nugget Jet').

PJ


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User currently offlineHarrisAir From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 59 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5683 times:

Quoting Strathpeffer (Thread starter):
) What news on the 734 combis?

Alaska Airlines Introduces Two 737-400 'Combi' Aircraft to Fleet



http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/070201/aqth043.html?.v=2

harris


User currently offlineSjot From United States of America, joined May 2002, 26 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5572 times:
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where are the photos of the combis!

come on people!


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5510 times:

Quoting Sjot (Reply 2):
where are the photos of the combis!

I dont think the 734 combi's are flying yet. 709 is the only 734 flying that was converted, but thats cargo only. The rest of the 734C's are behind schedule the last time I heard.



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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5771 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5489 times:

741 and 742 (both -200s) are still flying... they buzz past fox row every morning at ANC. Also, interestingly, retired aircraft 745 was parked at Fox-3 Tuesday, loaded some stuff, and taxied out for departure. Only the rudder and nosecone are painted in AS livery... the rest is all white. Couldn't figure out where she'd be going without paint, unless AS needed her pushed back into service for some reason. Or maybe there was a customer....

User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5476 times:

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 4):
Couldn't figure out where she'd be going without paint, unless AS needed her pushed back into service for some reason.

Because the 734C's are behind schedule in the retrofit.



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User currently offlineHikesWithEyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 816 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5471 times:

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 4):
Couldn't figure out where she'd be going without paint

N745AS and N746AS are now in Tuscon.
N768AS, the first combi, made it to ANC yesterday.



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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13554 posts, RR: 62
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5454 times:
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Quoting Strathpeffer (Thread starter):
What news on the retro livery?

The winner - and I'm not allowed to say which one it was - will be rolled out in the next few weeks. There was talk of doing all four retro liveries, but from what I understand that didn't go anywhere.



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5439 times:

Quoting HikesWithEyes (Reply 6):
N768AS, the first combi, made it to ANC yesterday.

Oh SWEET! Thats excellent news!  Smile



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User currently offlineRyDawg82 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 861 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5354 times:

Here she is:




Kind of looks a little funky without windows on the front half.

Full story at:
http://alaskasworld.com/NEWS/2007/02/01_combi_main.asp



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User currently offlineGmcc From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5347 times:

Here is the link from alaskasworld

http://alaskasworld.com/NEWS/2007/02/01_combi_main.asp


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5345 times:

Quoting RyDawg82 (Reply 9):
Kind of looks a little funky without windows on the front half.

I agree, I dont even like that at all! Will the L2 door have powered folding airstairs like the 732C's did?



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User currently offlineFlyibaby From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1017 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5312 times:

I just hope the bulkhead wall has some insulation between the front cargo and the rear passenger cabins. The 200 got some serious winds/drafts in places like BRW and SCC and you would feel like you were going to freeze while waiting for the ramp to finish loading the igloos in the front.

User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4344 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5277 times:

The -200 used to do the daily milk run through CDV-YAK-JNU-SIT, will that be a combi now or will it go to all pax?


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User currently offlineHikesWithEyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 816 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5263 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 11):
Will the L2 door have powered folding airstairs like the 732C's did?

No built-in airstairs.



First, benzene in my Perrier, and now this!
User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5771 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5217 times:

Can someone post a link to the four retro livery choices? I remember feeling very strongly about it, and also remember that there was not a whole lot of consensus here on a.net. That is to say, I thought one was great, the other three were horrible, and yet no one agreed with me or with each other!!!

So 745 went to Tucson? Is it in 'storage' or what?


User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7062 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5200 times:

Quoting Strathpeffer (Thread starter):
2) What news on the retro livery? A selection of these appeared on a.net and alaskasworld.com a few months back, waiting for employee votes, but has now gone rather quiet (my vote, if i'd had one, would've been for 'Golden Nugget Jet').



Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 7):
The winner - and I'm not allowed to say which one it was - will be rolled out in the next few weeks. There was talk of doing all four retro liveries, but from what I understand that didn't go anywhere.

Awesome first time I hear about a Alaska retro jet but frankly Alaska is one of the few airlines where I prefer their current paint scheme over the past ones.
Alaska today has one of the best and most outstanding liveries there is. The logo with the eskimo is just brilliant !!
What kind of aircraft will carry the paint scheme a -400, -700, -800 or -900 ?

P.S.
After checking the data base I have noticed that there are still MD 80s in service with AS. I thought they have been all retired a few months ago.
I am very pleased to see them still flying in AS colors !!



It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
User currently offlineGmcc From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5188 times:

Quoting Columba (Reply 16):
After checking the data base I have noticed that there are still MD 80s in service with AS. I thought they have been all retired a few months ago.

There will be some MD's around until 2008. Fleet transition page for AS is at the following link
http://alaskasworld.com/NEWS/fleet/fleet_plan.asp


User currently offlineRyDawg82 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 861 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5140 times:

Quoting Columba (Reply 16):
What kind of aircraft will carry the paint scheme a -400, -700, -800 or -900 ?

An -800 to be delivered in early Feb.

Here is the link to the original post about the retro jet. However, the links showing the drawings of the retro schemes have expired. But should give you some insight as to what has been discussed.
http://www.airliners.net/discussions...general_aviation/read.main/2999930

-R

[Edited 2007-02-01 23:52:14]


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User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5901 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5000 times:
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Quoting RyDawg82 (Reply 18):
An -800 to be delivered in early Feb.

Yes...the retro -800 is going down the line as we speak.


User currently offlineAlaska737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1063 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4949 times:

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 7):
There was talk of doing all four retro liveries, but from what I understand that didn't go anywhere.

DAMMIT!!!!! man i was hoping for that, maybe someone can spark up the idea again, anyway my money is on the golden nugget jet. i did like the with with blue and the gold and red bird, i wasnt as fond of the delta-looking one.


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4949 times:

Quoting Strathpeffer (Thread starter):
1) What news on the 734 combis? These are now long overdue and their non-arrival must be beginning to cause real problems. I'm really looking forward to seeing these - from both inside and out.

Apparently, not as long overdue as you presume. Since at least one is sitting at ANC as I type:

First Revenue Run AS 734C (by ANCFlyer Feb 2 2007 in Civil Aviation)

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 3):
I dont think the 734 combi's are flying yet.

Yes they are.

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 15):
Can someone post a link to the four retro livery choices?

RE: Alaska Airlines Retro Paint Scheme (by PSA727 Jun 18 2006 in Aviation Polls & Prefs)?searchid=90725&s=Alaska+Retro#ID90725


User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7062 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4849 times:

Quoting RyDawg82 (Reply 18):
An -800 to be delivered in early Feb.

Here is the link to the original post about the retro jet. However, the links showing the drawings of the retro schemes have expired. But should give you some insight as to what has been discussed.
http://www.airliners.net/discussions...general_aviation/read.main/2999930

-R

Thank you !



It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
User currently offlineStrathpeffer From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 79 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4841 times:

Thanks for your excellent replies - both questions answered while I was asleep!

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 7):
The winner - and I'm not allowed to say which one it was

I hope its golden nugget, that would be very nice!

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 21):
Apparently, not as long overdue as you presume.

Were these not originally due in early summer 2006, then fall 2006, then December?

Since a few seem to have been delivered at once, have they now caught up with the original delivery schedule? I guess that AS was sending the aircraft for conversion according to plan but due to the certification issues it was not getting them back when expected. Until now, of course.

PJ.



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User currently offlineRoadrunner165 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 874 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4801 times:

Quoting Flyibaby (Reply 12):
I just hope the bulkhead wall has some insulation between the front cargo and the rear passenger cabins. The 200 got some serious winds/drafts in places like BRW and SCC and you would feel like you were going to freeze while waiting for the ramp to finish loading the igloos in the front.

I froze my butt off in November while sitting in Kotzebue for 45 minutes waiting for the continuation of flight 151 to Nome. Thankfully AS's amazing Anchorage based flight attendants had fresh HOT coffee brewed the minute the doors opened to help keep us warm. The flight attendants looked so funny wearing their bulky trench coats in an attempt to keep warm as their walked down the isle (all six rows) serving coffee. + =

Adam

[Edited 2007-02-02 08:48:02]

[Edited 2007-02-02 08:49:41]

25 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Well done. You better believe it . . . SCC is the same way . . . those F/As dress up in heavy boots, trench coats, and THEN crack the door at -35F .
26 L-188 : What a money loosing airplane, and I blame the FAA and their idiotic overkill fire rules that prevent installation of a movable bulkhead like the olde
27 Post contains images AirframeAS : ANCFlyer: Please see below.....
28 Post contains images FlyPBA : here you go ... enjoy! Gordon
29 AA737-823 : Yep, feel strongly. The second, predominantly blue, choice. Followed by the red tail. The others are just... plain. The top one looks communist, while
30 EA CO AS : Huh? They're more fuel-efficient, FAR more reliable, carry more freight AND passengers than the -200Cs they replace. How is it you think AS won't be
31 Shane : isn't it strange having the cockpit segregated from the passenger cabin? how do the pilots get their coffee? and why didn't they put the cargo in the
32 Whappeh : Why not have 4 retrojets using all 4? I'm sad not to see the Goldpaner or the Onion Domes.
33 ANCFlyer : Yeah, I made that mention in another thread when the retro-liveries were announced. I think that would be the hot ticket. Alas:
34 ASFlyer : I'm not aware of any combi set ups where the cargo is in back, but I don't know so much about what other combi airlines are doing. I think for weight
35 Post contains images AirframeAS : Thats what my AS Maintenance Manual says. Free money!! LOL!
36 Post contains links Shane : Unless I've gone completely senile, the 747 combis have the freight area in the rear (no dirty jokes about that comment, kids). Yes I know it's a comp
37 Post contains links and images Cubsrule : Funny that you'd say that, given your username. When I saw it, I immediately thought of View Large View MediumPhoto © Matt Barnette - IAH Spotte
38 AA737-823 : Not quite sure how to take that... I have an idea, why don't you try and make something personal out of something that isn't? Anyhow, to counter the
39 Sokol : Yesterday I took great shots of Alaska Airlines B737-400 Combi in Anchorage ANC, since yesterday i am just waiting screeners to accept them on A.net s
40 Cubsrule : Nothing personal at all... just something that made me chuckle a little on a dreary Friday afternoon in N.C. (And, for the record, I like the red tai
41 Post contains links and images FlyPBA : yea ... these would make for nice looking additions to the fleet ... especially with the current look of Alaska (I did not make these)
42 Whappeh : Just 1 of each of those. That would be stunning.
43 Alaska737 : I have heard this as well. that would be cool sexy, but the middle looks like QX, with the stripe colors.
44 ANCFlyer : Excellent . . . Where's the Can-Can dancer. One is missing! I'd like to see all 4 of those - PLUS a Gold Nugget Jet.
45 Post contains images Alaska737 : would you actually fly on AS then?
46 Wedgetail737 : Here's a hint: Look for an "unusual" 737-800 in Renton and/or Boeing Field in the next few working days.
47 Post contains images ANCFlyer : I'm taking AS to LAS in March . . . I didn't say I refused to fly AS -(like I refuse to fly DL), I said I prefered a carrier with a real F cabin . .
48 FlyPBA : any news on the Retro Jet yet?
49 AirframeAS : Somebody get some pics, please! And whats the assigned tail number for this aircraft?
50 Wedgetail737 : There is another thread going on right now that shows what the new retro -800 will be. But no real photos yet. I believe the line number is either 219
51 SANFan : I'm sure most of you are aware of a situation involving the pax flying on a combi but I just realized it yesterday in FAI. I had boarded my flight to
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