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User currently offlineB752OS From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1322 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4529 times:

Per the Massport website, AC will be moving to terminal B, from their original location in Terminal C.

Could this mean more gates for FL and B6?

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User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3420 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4501 times:

hmm, AC (Air Georgian) is moving at PVD too starting in March, they will be with CO at gates 7 & 8 instead of UA at gates 9 & 10...

User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26815 posts, RR: 75
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4490 times:

Quoting B752OS (Thread starter):
Could this mean more gates for FL and B6?

Not if United has anything to say about it, given that those are their gates. Also, B6's gates are on the other side of C, which has a different checkpoint.

Quoting B752OS (Thread starter):
Per the Massport website, AC will be moving to terminal B, from their original location in Terminal C.

Probably to be handled by US.



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User currently offlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3247 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4484 times:

Quoting B752OS (Thread starter):
Per the Massport website, AC will be moving to terminal B, from their original location in Terminal C.

You're kidding me... I hate Terminal B... If this is true, that'd be AC's 2nd move at BOS (in the late 90s they were actually based in Terminal E).

Quoting B752OS (Thread starter):
Could this mean more gates for FL and B6?

Terminal C has two non-connected peers. B6 are actually on a different one where UA/AC are located. So, I can't see how B6 will get more gates.

Tony



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User currently offlineCOERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4495 times:

Are they moving to the B1-B3 gate area(the Ex-DL Shuttle gates)? I heard on a past topic they would be.

User currently offlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3247 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4495 times:

Quoting SNATH (Reply 3):
I hate Terminal B...



Quoting N1120A (Reply 2):
Probably to be handled by US.

Actually, good point. If it's US' part of Terminal B, it'd be fine. I automatically thought of AA's B peer...

Tony



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User currently offlineB752os From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1322 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4491 times:

Quoting SNATH (Reply 3):
Terminal C has two non-connected peers. B6 are actually on a different one where UA/AC are located. So, I can't see how B6 will get more gates.

Both B6 anf FL have expressed interest in getting more gates at BOS. When you consider that BOS is not a large transit operation for both airlines, having gates in both piers of C is not a problem.


User currently offlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3247 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4480 times:

http://www.massport.com/about/press_news_AirCanada07.html

Effective February 1, 2007, Air Canada and Air Canada Jazz will relocate from Terminal C to Terminal B (U.S. Airways side).

N1120A was right...

Tony



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User currently offlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3247 posts, RR: 22
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4469 times:

PS Will this mean that AC's passengers will have to use the US FF lounge? I'm not complaining! It's actually much nicer than UA's...

Tony

[Edited 2007-02-01 21:00:45]


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User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2502 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4469 times:

How many gates did they have?

User currently offlineCOERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4436 times:

Quoting SNATH (Reply 3):
Terminal C has two non-connected peers. B6 are actually on a different one where UA/AC are located. So, I can't see how B6 will get more gates.

Actually 4(add the former DL connection one and the former "D" gates where FL is).

Quoting B752OS (Thread starter):

Could this mean more gates for FL and B6?

It could. It would be more conveinent if FL made a connector hall from their gates on the UA section of C to their main gate area(the former "D" gates).


User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8913 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4423 times:

I don't know if the former DL shuttle gates (B1-B3) would be able to accomodate a plane the size of an EMB-190 - the DL Connection gates (A9-A12) are right there, so it would be tough to get anything more than a Dash into B1-B2 (B3 should be able to take an A320 sized plane fine)

User currently offlineCOERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4397 times:

Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 11):
I don't know if the former DL shuttle gates (B1-B3) would be able to accomodate a plane the size of an EMB-190 - the

Apparently they can, I just checked the Arrival/departure board for BOS, according to it AC is arriving/departing from B1/B2. I havn't seen B3 up there yet.


User currently offlineAirbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8663 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4284 times:

Yeah, this was announced last month. Sort of makes sense since US is the largest *A member at BOS and AC does not need FIS facilities (which they did not have at C either but were just a stone's throw from terminal D formerly known as E). It's ironic that of all the legacy carriers at BOS, UA is the one that's better positioned to offer International service (after NW), and yet they don't offer anything.
I say this because for those who know BOS, transfering between terminals C and D is not all that difficult, whereas transfering between A/B and D is a bit of a commute.


User currently offlineSafeFlyer From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 627 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4152 times:

Interesting, I had heard of it for a fairly long time now. AC was apparently partly unsatisfied by UA ground handling and the fact that they had 2 gates only in C causing constant delays (been there, experienced it several times) since for instance, we would come in from YOW while the YHZ flight was still at the gate. When you have 20-30 minutes to turn around a CRJ, you can't take that delay. I just wonder where AC will move it's check-in counters since they won't be handled by US Airways CSA as they have their own staff in BOS.

'Safe


User currently offlineCOERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4144 times:

Quoting SafeFlyer (Reply 14):
I just wonder where AC will move it's check-in counters since they won't be handled by US Airways CSA as they have their own staff in BOS.

There is some counter space next to the HP/US desks. There may be some over by the US Shuttle/AS counters, I'm not sure though.


User currently offlineEasyfriday2000 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4091 times:

Hey there.

US airways will be ground handling. This is due to a couple differnt factors. one being United did not do a very good job for us. Also AC wanted another gate to increase flights and decrease delays and United would not work with us. We will be in gates b1 b3. It wont be a problem with the aircraft we fly to bos. The gates were designed for 3 737. We can park up to a 321 on 3 and a 320 on b2 a e190 on b1. All the computer systems will be updated and we will have self checkin kiosk. the ticket counter is in the corner by the gates and US airways. Hope this helps


User currently offlineRP TPA From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 852 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4050 times:

Quoting Easyfriday2000 (Reply 16):
Also AC wanted another gate to increase flights

Have you heard anything specific about new flights?? Rumors??


User currently offlineEasyfriday2000 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4031 times:

Well there have been rumors of a quebec city in the summer. More flights to yyz in the peak seasons. A 4 yhz flight and a yvr flight. But i have heard that the yvr flight will not happen until 2008. But who knows. Until this summer i dont think we will be getting any flights. I think the best thing to come out of this move is that the gates are actually air canada gates. Before this we have always used someone elses which sooner or later became a problem. And at terminal c there was always at least one flight holding for a gate at around 7pm sometimes for an hour. This will give us more options

User currently offlineLH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6501 posts, RR: 54
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4020 times:

Quoting SNATH (Reply 5):
Actually, good point. If it's US' part of Terminal B, it'd be fine. I automatically thought of AA's B peer...

Knowing that you have status with AC you won't like this move. They'll be using B1-B3 which are the former DL Shuttle gates, therefore pax travelling on AC will no longer have lounge access (if they previously enjoyed that perk through the UA lounge).

Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 11):
I don't know if the former DL shuttle gates (B1-B3) would be able to accomodate a plane the size of an EMB-190 - the DL Connection gates (A9-A12) are right there,

You can. When the gates were vacant US would park A319s on those gates all the time for RONs. And, at least this winter AC isn't scheduling anything larger than a E195.

Quoting SafeFlyer (Reply 14):
I just wonder where AC will move it's check-in counters since they won't be handled by US Airways CSA as they have their own staff in BOS.

There are several available counters at Terminal B, actually a perfect number for Air Canada's requirements. Also with larger floor area than what they had in Terminal C they have a possibility for kiosks, if Air Canada offers that service in the States (I don't know). It's US' counter space but several airlines have, and have had, their own agents despite using those counters. Spirit and Independence are two that come to mind that use(d) the US counters but were staffed by their own people.

Having been a frequent traveller on AC, I will appreciate the move simply for the fact that AC was strapped for gates at Terminal C. They didn't have the option of using another gate in a pinch and was commonplace to arrive and have to sit on the tarmac for 15-20 mins for a gate to become free. With three gates they'll have more flexibility. Also, apparently according to an Air Canada employee in BOS they weren't that happy with UAs ground handling, so we'll see if US can do it better. From a passenger point of view, this SUCKS. Star Alliance gold passengers will lose lounge access as the gates AC will be using will have their own checkpoint not allowing access to the US Airways club. The departure lounge is literally a room with doors. There are no amenities beyond the checkpoint and the only services on that side of the terminal are a newsstand and a Starbucks. There is a restaurant and a Dunkin' Donuts on the other side down by the US Airways Shuttle counters. But nothing like what US Airways has inside security. I know they laid new carpet down so at least it won't be the gross, stained red carpet that has been there since Piedmont was still flying. But in terms of passenger services this is a bad move.

LH423



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User currently offlineEasyfriday2000 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3995 times:

So

Quoting LH423 (Reply 19):

so not having to sit on the tarmac for 30 minutes is not a improvement in passenger service. I know that AC is making it possible for our passengers to use the US lounge the only thing is they would have to go through security twice. But security to the AC gates should be a breeze since there is no other airline there. Also there will be a little sanwich bar in the holding area with coffee bagels stuff like that. I do agree that you wont have as much room but i think most pax are wanting an on time flight more than a meal. oh and we have 319s in the schedule right now. Also i put in my last post that the gates will take anything we ever see up to a 321. So if we had two 320s and a e190 it would be no problem. And we will have 6 self check in kiosk for the pax in boston

regards


User currently offlineCOERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3899 times:

Quoting Easyfriday2000 (Reply 20):
ut security to the AC gates should be a breeze since there is no other airline there. Also there will be a little sanwich bar in the holding area with coffee bagels stuff like that. I do agree that you wont have as much room but i think most pax are wanting an on time flight more than a meal. oh and we have 319s in the schedule right now.

Any possibility of AC adding a walkway like US has between their main and their shuttle gates?, or at least a walkway to the US club?


User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8913 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3883 times:

Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 21):
Any possibility of AC adding a walkway like US has between their main and their shuttle gates?, or at least a walkway to the US club?

Probably would cost too much money. It's no more than a 3-4 minute walk over to the US security area, and the number of connections will probably be minimal. If anything, a small bus would probably be more cost-effective than a walkway (US needs one since there's a good amount of connectivity between the Shuttle gates and the regular gates), but for the number of people that would be affected, it's probably not even worth the cost.

BTW, at MHT, CO is already handling the Air Alliance flights...I've seen them park Beechs at Gate 1 lately instead of Gate 5, which is a UA gate.


User currently offlineCOERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3833 times:

Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 22):
y (US needs one since there's a good amount of connectivity between the Shuttle gates and the regular gates), but for the number of people that would be affected, it's probably not even worth the cost.

They actually installed a walkway between mainline/express and the shuttle gates, very convienent.


User currently offlineEasyfriday2000 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3817 times:

Ya i dont see why Massport would put a walkway. Honestly if you want to go to the Us air club and you had 2 hours to kill it would take maybe 15 minutes to go through security and back. Im not saying this move will be 100% better but it will be better for the pax in terms of on time departures as well as more flights

25 LH423 : No, I was saying the opposite. This move will be a good thing for that. More gates equals less wait time. Good to know they'll at least have somethin
26 Easyfriday2000 : Hey LH 423 I know that the yvr flight is a possibility especially in the summer. I have been told that the reason it was taken away was gate space in
27 Post contains images LH423 : Figures! I always wanted to nonrev on that flight but it never was around when I worked at BOS. Now I don't live there and it possibly might come bac
28 Post contains images SNATH : Yikes and bummer! This is pretty disappointing. The UA lounge is basic at best, but it beats sitting in the terminal any day... Why do they need to m
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