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User currently offlineStlbham From United States of America, joined May 1999, 443 posts, RR: 0
Posted (15 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 726 times:

I was recently reading somewhere that TWA when flying the pope from st louis to Italy, spent a few thousand hours preparing the cabin of their 767. My question is do airlines bid to fly the pope to his destinations? And does the pope have an airline or a plane that he usually flies in Europe? I guess in TWA's case the public seeing the pope leave America on a TWA jet was enough for them to invest several thousand hours in labor converting a jet to fly the pope one time!

Thanks
Brian

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User currently offlineTwa747100 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 600 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (15 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 720 times:

The pope said "traveling with angles" is what twa means and it was a 767-300 that took the pope from stl-fco. And I think twa always opps for the pope and he take it!

User currently offlineLanFan From United States of America, joined May 1999, 86 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (15 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 720 times:

I think the Pope uses Alitalita a majority of the time. He used an Alitalia MD11 to travel to Cuba. I remember when he went to Chile he flew in Lanchile. I think he uses the country's flag carrier when available (In the US case, I dont know) if not he flies ALITALIA.


Jay


User currently offlinePurdue Cadet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (15 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 720 times:

Several years ago, when the Pope visited Denver, he flew American back to Rome. American's papal flight was also a 767-300. I'm not sure how he chooses his airline here, though.

User currently offlineFalcon From Netherlands, joined Jun 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (15 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 720 times:

Who's Pope?

User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9541 posts, RR: 42
Reply 5, posted (15 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 720 times:

He probably chooses his airline by starting a topic on this forum called "What's Your Favourite Airline" under the name AZ-320, or something.

User currently offlineIB6400 From Mexico, joined Jun 1999, 247 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (15 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 723 times:

At least in Mexico´s case the airlines bid to fly the pope to his final destinations. The Pope has traveled four times to Mexico, the first one was in 1.979 Aeroméxico brought him from a direct flight from Rome in a DC-10 he flew between several Mexican cities in the same Aeroméxico DC-10. The second one in 1.990 an Alitalia 747 brought him to Mexico City from Rome. He left Mexico City in a DC-10 from Aeroméxico. The third one was in 1.993 when he was coming from a Central American tour and a Taesa 757 (named by the way "Juan Pablo II") brought him to Mérida and then he flew on the same airline and plane to the U.S. The last one the most recently was past January. An Alitalia MD-11 came with him. He left Mexico City in a brand new 757 from Mexicana bounding to St. Louis The new 757 was named again "S.S. Juan Pablo II" The Pope usually wants to fly the national airline where it is possible. In México´s case the airlines take the turns to flew the Pope. Choosing the pilot who is taking the Pope is another thing the airlines usually picks the most well trained pilot.
To your other question... Yes the Pope does have an airline for his European destinations...
Alitalia.



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User currently offlineGardermoen From Australia, joined Jul 1999, 1522 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (15 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 722 times:

I thought The Pope always flies the flag carrier of the country he is departing. When The Pope visited Philippines, Australia, PNG and Sri Lanka in 1995, he flew Alitalia ROM-MNL, Philippine Airlines MNL-POM, Air Niugini POM-SYD, Qantas SYD-CMB, and Air Lanka CMB-ROM.

User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8185 posts, RR: 54
Reply 8, posted (15 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 721 times:

You know, I think he's a contributor to this forum, have a look at "What's your favourite airplane?", I think "AZ-320" is either JP II or a very deluded and quite insane old man. Lives in the Vatican, travels with a big entourage, very security conscious, and hates Alitalia. Good enough for me.


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User currently offlineUal1636 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (15 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 721 times:

Alitalia gave the pope his own MD-11 that Alitalia pilots fly. But sometimes he will use other flag carriers for travel if the MD-11 isnt available or other airlines bid for him for just the joy of flyin the pope.

User currently offlineA330 From Belgium, joined May 1999, 649 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (15 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 721 times:

Gardemoen is right. The Pope arrives with Alitalia and leaves with the flag carrier of the country he visited.


Shiek!
User currently offlineStlbham From United States of America, joined May 1999, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (15 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 721 times:

I know in the past when the pope comes to America he has flown TWA and United (maybe more i dont know), but since there is no true national carrier in the US does he choose the largest airline out of the city he visits? For example, st louis and TWA, Denver and United.

Thanks

Brian


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