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Caledonian Wings Is For Real!  
User currently offlineCeilidh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2403 times:

The Caledonian Wings project continues to move towards launch, as is shown in this article from a Scottish business newspaper:

http://www.businessam.co.uk/TodaysPaper/TodaysArticles/0,2090,3423,00.html

I'd like to think that this may result in a slight change of attitude by certain members - but knowing human nature, probably not!   

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User currently offlineTrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3257 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2141 times:

What is the latest with respect to Wings' acquisition of BWIA's TriStars? It was reported in the local media that the negotiations had hit a snag.

Just curious.

Trintocan.



Hop to it, fly for life!
User currently offlineGranite From UK - Scotland, joined May 1999, 5577 posts, RR: 63
Reply 2, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2133 times:
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Hi Neil

I'll start stocking up on the film  

Regards
Gary Watt
Aberdeen, Scotland


User currently offlineF_boot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2110 times:

Which goes to proove what? That Neil spoke to a reporter? Why have we seen nothing in the aviation press?
Caledonian Wings Is For Real! ... get real.


User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24964 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2084 times:

I happen to believe the guy and I wish him good luck for it. The sooner the better i say, Prestwick could do with more airlines.


When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
User currently offlineCeilidh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2071 times:

I see that I was right about human nature - and that F_boot can't read.    

Trintocan - see http://www.celticairways.com/BWIA.html for the whole story.

F_boot you'll be able to read all about it in the aviation press as well, shortly!


User currently offlineG-BEAK From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2000, 168 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2057 times:

I hope the Odyssey Group isn't any relation to this one!


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User currently offlineCeilidh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2052 times:

Nope, but nice livery though!

User currently offlineWestjet_yhm From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2037 times:

Neil
Nice to hear some more news just curious didnt mention nothing about YHM or canada at all for a matter of fact did you scrap that route?



User currently offlineScotty From UK - Scotland, joined Dec 1999, 1875 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2023 times:

Oi - Geez a joab

User currently offlineTWAneedsNOhelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2024 times:

It looks like YHM will see twice weekly serivce to SNN and on to PIK. According to Neil's webiste YHM will be served on Thursdays and Saturdays.

User currently offlineNicolaki From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2015 times:

People are just never happy. Ceilidh just give out the porve and there is still people not beleving him. Anyways I wish you good luck Ceilidh and I hope Caledonian Wings will in the future come see us in Montreal  

Nicolas - Montreal


User currently offlineTrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3257 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1982 times:

Thanks for the info. That web site contains a real wealth of information for TriStar fans like myself, too! Again, thanks Ceilidh.

Trintocan.



Hop to it, fly for life!
User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1968 times:

Sounds great! I wish you the best, Neil!

F L Y 7 7 7 U A L


User currently offlineCeilidh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1972 times:

Westjet_yhm - Sandy McDougall and I are putting out a press release shortly about services to YHM.

Thanks to the rest of you for your support - it's very hard work doing this, and we're still a long way off being airborne yet. Still, things are looking very good indeed!


User currently offlineGranite From UK - Scotland, joined May 1999, 5577 posts, RR: 63
Reply 15, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1967 times:
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Hi Neil

Still need info on the livery.......what are your ideas?
Name for your inflight magazine?
Business and economy class section names?

Regards
Gary Watt
Aberdeen, Scotland


User currently offlineTWAneedsNOhelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1946 times:

Gary, per http://www.celticairways.com, you will see that the the first class section has been named "Chieftan" and the economy section is "Clansman"

Description of Cheiftan Class:
http://www.celticairways.com/Jclass.html

Description of Clansman Class:
http://www.celticairways.com/Yclass.html


User currently offlineCeilidh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks ago) and read 1944 times:

Gary - I'm still open to suggestions for the livery - we're looking at various designs at the moment. Personally, I favour tartan tails (all different) or photographic images of Scotland a la Frontier - my colleagues like the Saltire and lion rampant (which is out because of its connection with BCal/CKT)

Anyone have any suggestions?


User currently offlineIainhol From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks ago) and read 1936 times:

Neil - I would not go with the tartan tail that is all different. I would go with a business look like AA, United, BM. But I do think it is important to have something to do with Scotland (maybe names or something). I do not know too much about Scotland, but I would definately go with a business look!
Iain


User currently offlineAKelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2194 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks ago) and read 1929 times:

Neil,

Continued good wishes on getting this business venture up in the air. I sincerely hope to be on a Caledonian Wings aircraft one day!


User currently offlineCeilidh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1925 times:

Iain - remember we're more charter/leisure oriented. The staid, corporate looks are also something I'm trying to avoid a bit - obviously I don't want to go too OTT - but at the end of the day, it has to be something that is very distinctive.

User currently offlineTWAneedsNOhelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1919 times:

Neil,

I wish I was an artist because I appreciate good image/looks/livery (like many ppl on this forum) yet have no way to visualize my ideas.

Anyway, how about something lie a light grey body "Caledonian Wings" in billboard (Pan Am Style, but different typescript entirely) titling in a dark green jovial looking font. Than perhaps you could have a small image of the Scottish flag waving (somewhat Olympic 717 style) and than on the tail yeah a picture (Frontier stlye) of beautiful Scottish higlands. Have your URL displayed clearly too.

See the flag:

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Photo © Mathias Henig



User currently offlineCaravelle From Norway, joined Aug 2000, 666 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1912 times:

Not too reassuring, the comment from Delta:
"The letter of intent still being worked on".
If a letter of intent is "still being worked on", where's the intent?

-caravelle



Trains and boats and planes....
User currently offlineIainhol From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1905 times:

Neil - I think I understand a bit more now, are you looking for a more fun look then UA and others. Have you thought of having a theme on each aircraft, maybe use Scottish castles, or things typically Scottish, like a lockness theme!!
Iain


User currently offlineCaravelle From Norway, joined Aug 2000, 666 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1903 times:

My posting referred to a quote in Ceildhs original link. Forgot to say.... Busy night tonight...  

-caravelle



Trains and boats and planes....
25 Ceilidh : Caravelle - the LOI is a very important document, as it forms the basis for the final purchase agreement. The most important part of it is the pricing
26 Post contains images Granite : Hi Well for livery, nothing too 'cheap' looking or 'tacky' Rampant Lion and Saltire not good either. Something stylized like the SRU thistle. That loo
27 Caravelle : Ceilidh - I know full well what a letter of intent is. Less than a contract by far, less than a promise - for sure. I really wish you all the best, an
28 Scotty : How about a livery with a West Highland sunset on the tail and a Pictish symbol or something similar? Fuselage could reflect this and the lettering in
29 TWAneedsNOhelp : I like the each aircraft having a name!
30 Ceilidh : Caravelle - sorry, but you obviously don't know what an LOI is (I'd say you're thinking of an MOU) - an LOI requires the payment of a deposit (in this
31 David L : For Scottish-themed names, what about "8 Pints Of Lager And A Kebab", "8 Pints Of Export And A Kebab", "8 Whiskies And A Kebab", etc? But seriously, I
32 Ceilidh : Actually, I thought "Tennants" and "McEwans" would be good names! Unfortunately, all of the names you suggested (with the exception of Sir Sean) were
33 David L : Foiled again. Some people never learn.
34 Scotty : The other DC10-30 was "Robert Burns - the Scottish Bard" so I suggest "Heather the Weather - the Scottish Burd" or "Frank MacAvennie - the Scottish Ba
35 Post contains images Granite : Hi all Still thinking of names for aircraft? Have you all forgotten about naming them after people: Daphne, Maggie, Hen..........get my drift! A nice
36 Post contains images Granite : Hi all Still thinking of names for aircraft? Have you all forgotten about naming them after people: Daphne, Maggie, Hen..........get my drift! A nice
37 Scotty : Would the Broons include Craig? Or Gordon?
38 Post contains images Ceilidh : Flagship Oor Wullie (I feel rather sorry for all the non-Scots reading this, as they won't have a clue what we're chuntering on about. On second thoug
39 FLY777UAL : Neil- Where on the DOT website did you come across the operating cost comparison chart for the aircraft (on your website)? Was it off of the BTS.GOV s
40 Ceilidh : FLY777UAL - it was from the Aerospace Almanac, published by Phillips. I've also seen the figures published in Air Transport World and similar magazine
41 FLY777UAL : Aaahhh...Thanks! F L Y 7 7 7 U A L
42 Caravelle : Ceilidh: Haven't been here for a few days, so I didn't catch your reply until now, but if you say so.... Sure, an LOI would usually involve lawyers' m
43 F_boot : Still all just wind and waffle ...
44 Post contains links and images Ceilidh : Caravelle - nope, you're wrong. We have to pay 20% of the total agreed purchase price as 'earnest money'. That comes to rather a substantial amount of
45 Westjet_yhm : Ceilidh When can I expect that press relese you spoke off there was a ful page article in the paper this weekend related to the airport but not even a
46 Ceilidh : It was sent to Sandy last week - he's handling it.
47 Caravelle : Ceilhid - - if you say so. Sounds strange to me, but then we live in different countries. I've bookmarked the link, and will be following your progres
48 Pilot1113 : I guess the reason why people are so skeptical is because... um... Airline CEOs don't usually mingle with us "lower classes." In addition, airline CEO
49 Pilot1113 : I guess the reason why people are so skeptical is because... um... Airline CEOs don't usually mingle with us "lower classes." In addition, airline CEO
50 F_boot : Yes, but is he really an airline CEO?
51 Panman : I joined this thread late (today 17th Nov) and the link to the BWIA article doesn't seem to work. Can you look into that Ceilidh? panMan
52 Ceilidh : Panman - I removed the BWIA page. However, I understand that there was an interesting article about them in last Saturday's Guardian (TT) - look on th
53 Post contains images Pilot1113 : I'm actually glad that you're mingling with us. I think that you're doing the right thing, by talking with us, if you want to start a new airline. Thi
54 F_boot : Certainly seems that CEO's of real companies actually spend time at their jobs so that they can't engage in the continual grandstanding and media watc
55 Post contains images Ceilidh : Neil - quite right. From this forum alone, I have been able to get feedback on passenger needs and wants; suggestions for names and livery; get first
56 Granite : Hi Neil Saw the newspaper articles today on Caledonian Wings and it mentioned you are in the USA to sign for 3 L1011's. Let us know how you get on. Re
57 AmtrakGuy : Ceilidh... I remember a poem I had to meomorized in high school.....it goes like this: My heart is in the highland, my heart in the highland, whatever
58 Jumpseat83 : ????caledonianwings.com???? David Jones
59 Post contains links Ceilidh : It appears to be a 'twitchers's (birdwatcher's) site - ours is http://www.celticairways.com Strangely though, there's a poster on here by the name of
60 Jumpseat83 : Thanks! David
61 Wilcharl : Just a note Neil, This may have been brought up before, but the name Clansman may clash in the Orlando and other US markets. though the spelling is di
62 TWAneedsNOhelp : Correction: They were referred to as "Klansmen". But one should understand that the word "clan" is widespread and refers to far more than some closemi
63 Wilcharl : Yeah, the spelling is differnt, as TWAneedsNOhelp said, and i dont think there would be a problem outside the southeast united states, defently not a
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