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BMI To Announce LHR-Pakistan Flights?  
User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4852 posts, RR: 44
Posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 4997 times:

According to this website forum :

http://www.historyofpia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7784

a member states that an employee of BMI-British Midland has informed him that the airline will be making a major announcement soon concerning its new long haul daily flights to Pakistan from Heathrow.

It will be flown by the same A 332 that was used for the BOM route.

BMI has decided on 4 weekly LHR-Islamabad and 3 weekly LHR-Lahore flights.

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User currently offlineBlrBird From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 579 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4806 times:

Its not a bad idea, may be they can make this route work compared to LHR-BOM.


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User currently offlineBA787 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4793 times:

Always in need of links to Pakistan


But still the wuestion of whether PIA loyalists will fly another airline, although if BMI offers lowish fares, me thinks some will be presuaded Big grin


User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4757 times:

Quoting BA787 (Reply 2):

But still the wuestion of whether PIA loyalists will fly another airline, although if BMI offers lowish fares, me thinks some will be presuaded Big grin

but the aunties and uncles will still be loyal to PK..and with the new B777's in the fleet, the planes and service are very good so I expect most of the "youngens" to stick with PK...but you are right, some will be persuaded to fly with BD... Smile

...that being said, I would like to see BA start KHI service....

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User currently offlineGemini573 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 146 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4753 times:

BMI has been talking about longhaul expansion for awhile. Weren't they thinking about expanding into HKG as well? If they did, I don't think it's a good idea now as there are 10 daily flights ex-LHR and one from LGW to HKG.

User currently offlineBA787 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4729 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 3):

Ah yes, but the aunties and uncles never turn down a bargain, Big grin


User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4643 times:

Quoting BA787 (Reply 5):
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 3):

Ah yes, but the aunties and uncles never turn down a bargain,  biggrin 

..true, true...but PK is quite cheap as it is...knowing the aunties and uncles, they will fly the BD "promotional fares" and rave about how much better BD is better than PK, then once BD raises its fares, they will go back to PK and harp how bad BD was....Pakistani-style.... biggrin 



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User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4927 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 4591 times:

There was rumour of BMed looking at Pakistan flights. Now BMed are bmi, could this measn A320/A321 flights to Pakistan instead of A330 service

Anyway, were would the A330 come from? One is meant to be going on lease to Virgin Nigeria soon



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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4515 times:

Quoting Humberside (Reply 7):
Anyway, were would the A330 come from? One is meant to be going on lease to Virgin Nigeria soon

..supposedly its coming from the dropped LHR-BOM route...that being said, I'll believe it when I hear an official announcement...



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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24964 posts, RR: 56
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4429 times:

Quoting Behramjee (Thread starter):
It will be flown by the same A 332 that was used for the BOM route.

The one that is now on lease to Virgin Nigeria?

Quoting Gemini573 (Reply 4):
BMI has been talking about longhaul expansion for awhile. Weren't they thinking about expanding into HKG as well? If they did, I don't think it's a good idea now as there are 10 daily flights ex-LHR and one from LGW to HKG.

But 0 from Manchester where they should concentrate at operating from  Wink



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User currently offlineFeroze From India, joined Dec 2004, 794 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4395 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 9):
Quoting Behramjee (Thread starter):
It will be flown by the same A 332 that was used for the BOM route.

The one that is now on lease to Virgin Nigeria?

The A330 now on lease is G-WWBD which was in Star Alliance c/s prior to the repainting/restickering

The A330 which was pulled off the BOM route last year was G-WWBM.


User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4392 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 9):

But 0 from Manchester where they should concentrate at operating from Wink

Bunch of bafoons running BD..instead of trying to compete with a million carriers out of LHR, BD should lease some of those precious slots it has (what is it, 14%?), lease and/or purchase some twins and take control of MAN...MAN-ORD is very successful..they can practically monopolise that entire catchment area and offer services everywhere from there...not only that, if given the opportunity, many people will avoid LHR like the plague....

[Edited 2007-02-02 23:36:24]


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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24964 posts, RR: 56
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4382 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 11):
MAN-IAH was doing well..

For PIA?  Wink



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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4373 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 12):
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 11):
MAN-IAH was doing well..

For PIA?  Wink

where did I say that... liar  duck 

...sorry..my bad..MAN-IAD..and MAN-IAH has blown for PK... Wink

....edited the previous statement...



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User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7311 posts, RR: 57
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4367 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 8):
..supposedly its coming from the dropped LHR-BOM route...that being said, I'll believe it when I hear an official announcement...

That was allocated to operate the Saudi routes from S07-long before the hard landing, and long before BOM was finally dropped. Bmi have a habit of scheduling more aircraft than they have A330's for.



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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4357 times:

Quoting BestWestern (Reply 14):
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 8):
..supposedly its coming from the dropped LHR-BOM route...that being said, I'll believe it when I hear an official announcement...

That was allocated to operate the Saudi routes from S07-long before the hard landing, and long before BOM was finally dropped. Bmi have a habit of scheduling more aircraft than they have A330's for.

...hence my comments "supposedly" and more important..."I'll believe it when I see it"... Wink



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User currently offlineAlangirvan From New Zealand, joined Nov 2000, 2106 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4282 times:

Is Aero Asia due to start Manchester and East Midlands to Islamabad with A332s?

User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4182 times:

Quoting Alangirvan (Reply 16):
Is Aero Asia due to start Manchester and East Midlands to Islamabad with A332s?

Aero Asia...lol..they do plan on starting ISB-NQT and ISB-MAN soon..but certainly not out of LHR...



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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24964 posts, RR: 56
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks ago) and read 4129 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 17):
ISB-NQT

ISB-EMA  Wink
NQT can't handle anything larger than a Cessna 172  Wink



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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3933 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 18):

ISB-EMA  Wink
NQT can't handle anything larger than a Cessna 172  Wink

..me bad again.. footinmouth ...at least I was somewhere near the park this time..unlike my previous gaffe of stating IAD instead of IAH... Smile

...fortunately its not FR, with MOL, one never knows what he'll try... duck 



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User currently offlineCarledwards From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 262 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3901 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 19):
ISB-EMA
NQT can't handle anything larger than a Cessna 172

Maybe Nottingham City Council will give Aero Asia a grant to pave the runway long enough to land their 332 there  Smile

Nothing would surprise me these days, there's regional airport popping up all over the place in the UK.



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User currently offlineBA787 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3774 times:

Quoting Carledwards (Reply 20):

Why bother, when Robin Hood or EMA can take it? Big grin

Not sure whether EMA flights would work, there isnt a high popualtion of pakistani people in that region, further north is the hotspost.

Im an LBA man I know, but an LBA-Pakistan flight would be a gold mine, might ruin MAN though.


User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3929 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3764 times:

Quoting BA787 (Reply 21):

Im an LBA man I know, but an LBA-Pakistan flight would be a gold mine, might ruin MAN though.

I think that there might be a runway issue with LBA. I doubt the terminal could cope either.

I think that DSA would have a runway longenough, but Im not 100% on that.

Either way BMI needs to sort out its network. The whole thing is a bloody mess.



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User currently offlineBA787 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3755 times:

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 22):

LBA could handle anyhting from Saabs to 747's, its had concorde before. Terminal could be an issue, but Id park it on a remote stand and bus it in. That said, the stands can handle up to 767 AFAIK, BY use them on charter services every so often.


As for DSA, anyone who watched the BBC program "Should we fly" or something along those lines know that no residents would ever let a PIA 743 in Big grin, smashed windows galore


User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4927 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3720 times:

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 22):
I think that DSA would have a runway longenough, but Im not 100% on that

Shaheen Air are planning to start DSA-Pakistan flights. Though if plans become reality remain to be seen



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25 SK736 : Introducing new long-haul routes at the expense of others could hardly be described as expansion.
26 Behramjee : one should seriously take Shaheen Air and Aero Asia's UK expansion plans with a grain of salt as both these airlines in the past too have on numerous
27 HUYfan : BMED as it was, was planning to start London-Yerevan-Lahore flights 4 times a week, but with the bmi buyout, I'm not sure what is happening. Regards M
28 Humberside : Theres a 30 day review of BMed by bmi management so I guess nothing will be announced before March
29 BrianDromey : Its pretty similar to ORK @ LBA, so although the aircraft can get in and out when the're pretty light, but not with a decent payload to the likes of
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