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Copa Joining SkyTeam  
User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2347 times:

Congratulations Copa !

Sorry, link in Spanish...


http://www.prensa.com/hoy/negocios/877253.html

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User currently offlineRootsAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2273 times:

Excellent news for COPA. I'm really really happy for them! Great airline !

User currently offlineFlyDreamliner From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2261 times:

Great for skyteam to add s very solid latin/south american presence!

Maybe we can see MSP-PTY starting up! (One can dream)


User currently offlineJEdward From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2246 times:

Quoting FlyDreamliner (Reply 2):
Maybe we can see MSP-PTY starting up! (One can dream)

*Paging ExpressJet*  Wink


User currently offlineDeltaDAWG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2236 times:

Excellent News! Does this mean they will become a full fledged member? It seems so as I read it, but then again my spanish is not the best.

User currently offlineSumma767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2217 times:

Quoting DeltaDAWG (Reply 4):
Does this mean they will become a full fledged member?

No, just associate member.
Still, nit unlikely then, that AF or KL will start flights to PTY. That would really be an useful link for people going from anywhere in Europe and the Middle East to Central America.


User currently offlineEddieDude From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2213 times:

They are still on track to join as Associate Member. Same with Air Europa and Kenya Airways. There is a thread in here containing a link to the press release. It is funny to note that there is nothing about Tarom. Seems they won't be joining at all.

User currently offlineDeltaDAWG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2171 times:

Quoting Summa767 (Reply 5):
Still, nit unlikely then, that AF or KL will start flights to PTY. That would really be an useful link for people going from anywhere in Europe and the Middle East to Central America.

Right now, AF,KL, LH, BA and the like can't compete with DL's pricing from Europe to Central America. They are kicking everyones *sses on those routes.


User currently offlineSumma767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2165 times:

Quoting DeltaDAWG (Reply 7):
Right now, AF,KL, LH, BA and the like can't compete with DL's pricing from Europe to Central America. They are kicking everyones *sses on those routes.

Competition is good. Not everybody will go for the price though, plus there are many others who will avoid flying through the US, eithr because a transit visa is required, or they simply don't like the security hassles.


User currently offlineIAHFLYER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2098 times:

Quoting TACAA320 (Thread starter):
Copa !

Is COPA owned by CO or something like an ownership siutation with CO, I am only wondering because their tails are so similiar! and Congrats to them!!


User currently offlineJEdward From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2063 times:

Quoting IAHFLYER (Reply 9):
Is COPA owned by CO or something like an ownership siutation with CO, I am only wondering because their tails are so similar! and Congrats to them!!

CO bought a 49% investment in Copa 1998 and started their marketing/codesharing agreement with them (hence the logo similarities, President's Club in PTY, OnePass, etc.). A few years ago (late 2005?) Copa made an IPO on the NYSE and afterwards CO started liquidating their investment with them to shore up their own cash position.

Today CO and CM are still involved in their marketing agreement and I have not heard (and please, take that with a grain of salt) any talk of reducing this.

FYI… for all you NW/CO elites, CM is rumored to be an easy EUA. Sure they might only fly 737’s and EMB’s…but first class on a 737 to EZE beats being stuck in coach on a widebody any day!


User currently offlineLuisca From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2065 times:

Quoting IAHFLYER (Reply 9):

Is COPA owned by CO or something like an ownership siutation with CO, I am only wondering because their tails are so similiar! and Congrats to them!!

Back in the late 1990s CO bought a Controlling 49% stake in CM, in 2005 when CM went public CO sold about 28% of the airline in the market, they have contiuned to sell to cover their pension fund. CM is today 49% owned by Motta International of Panama, 12% by CO and the rest is publicaly traded.

All in all buying CM turned out to be a great investment by CO.


User currently offlineZschocheImages From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2018 times:

Good for them. It doesn't surprise me at all due to their close realtionship with all of the SkyTeam airlines already. Being a NW/CO guy myself this is really good news!

User currently offlineRobertS975 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1885 times:
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OK, my Spanish isn't that great, but doesn't the article simply say that COPA will become a member of SkyTeam? What is new here? Is there a date that this takes place? Otherwise, it is the same announcement made back in June 2005.

User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1854 times:

Quoting RobertS975 (Reply 13):
my Spanish isn't that great,

I respectfully agree with you.


User currently offlineLuisca From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1827 times:

Quoting RobertS975 (Reply 13):
OK, my Spanish isn't that great, but doesn't the article simply say that COPA will become a member of SkyTeam? What is new here? Is there a date that this takes place? Otherwise, it is the same announcement made back in June 2005.

The papers were signed today, so it is now officially being processed. That is the news, it is different because the announcement in June was about their intent to join, after a lot of running around they are finally joining today.

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 14):

I respectfully agree with you.

I wouldn't kill you to be more helpful and answer his question next time.


User currently offlineCopaair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1818 times:

Great news for my Screennames' namesake carrier. Copa is a classy airline, and its nice to see them get into a good alliance like Skyteam.

-Copa


User currently offlineRobertS975 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1752 times:
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Still no effective date?

User currently offlineA300AA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1750 times:

Very good for Copa, but do this mean that Aerorepublica, that its owned by Copa will be part of the alliance as an associate? This will be excellent news also for Colombian passengers .


I told you that CM will be part of an alliance first than AV.

Good for CM and for P5.


User currently offlineZschocheImages From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1711 times:

Here's something interesting that I just thought about... RG was just "kicked out" of Star. Three days later CM starts the paperwork to join SkyTeam. So now SkyTeam is one up on Star in the Latin American department.

User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1673 times:

Quoting Luisca (Reply 15):

I wouldn't kill you to be more helpful and answer his question next time.

Where is your sense of humor?  Wink


User currently offlineSumma767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1586 times:

Quoting ZschocheImages (Reply 19):
Here's something interesting that I just thought about... RG was just "kicked out" of Star. Three days later CM starts the paperwork to join SkyTeam. So now SkyTeam is one up on Star in the Latin American department

Well, Star is virtually absent from Latin America. The word is that it is in talks with both Aerolineas Argentinas and Avianca about them joining. Between the two they would provide a fair coverage of South America, and importantly, with the expected new links to Europe by AV (FRA in particular) the network across the south atlantic would be significantly improved.


User currently offlineRootsAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1566 times:

Quoting ZschocheImages (Reply 19):
So now SkyTeam is one up on Star in the Latin American department.

Exactly, and finally makes up for its lack of LatAm network as opposed to One World.


User currently offlineRobertS975 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks ago) and read 1430 times:
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http://www.copaair.com/html/user/default.aspx?PageId=53


Although new options for SkyTeam travel are always welcome, there are really not a lot of new destinations that will be added by COPA that are not already available via DL, CO, AM and AV codeshares.


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