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First Iran Air Flight Arrives CCS  
User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2005 posts, RR: 16
Posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 20833 times:

Looks like the first IR flight from THR is arriving today in CCS.

Flight IR 744 bound from THR and DAM is scheduled to arrive at 15:45h in CCS.
Somebody knows the aircraft they are using ? I guess it is the 747SP as they still don't have the A340.
Shame that I will be in CCS tomorrow and not today.

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User currently offlineMagyarorszag From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 20809 times:

Quoting Chiguire (Thread starter):
Somebody knows the aircraft they are using ? I guess it is the 747SP as they still don't have the A340.

Don't know, but if they want to make it non-stop from DAM they better have a plane capable of flying 10597 km/ 5722 nm.

Cheers.


User currently offlineLamedianaranja From Venezuela, joined Nov 2004, 1246 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 20807 times:

Quoting Chiguire (Thread starter):
I will be in CCS tomorrow and not today.

And at what time does it leave again? It doesn't show on Maiquetía's website:

http://www.aeropuerto-maiquetia.com.ve/lineas/index.asp

nor on the IR website as I'm only able to get AMS-THR info.



I wish that all skies were orange and blue!!
User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 20777 times:

Quote:
Don't know, but if they want to make it non-stop from DAM they better have a plane capable of flying 10597 km/ 5722 nm.

This route is most definitely NOT designed to make money. It is Ahmedinajad and Chávez cuddling up to each other to make a statement to the U.S.

It reminds me of the old Communist long-haul routes such as Eastern Europe-Vietnam...not a real big market, but definitely a "prestige" route.

Iran and Venezuela have oil money to burn - mostly from us Americans driving 10 mpg gas guzzlers, but if it's something these countries want to do, that's their business.

It will, however, be interesting to see what the load factors are - assuming those aren't kept secret.



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User currently offlineLatinplane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2724 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 20756 times:

Caracas arrival info:
_____________________
Viernes 02/02/2007 15:12:10

Aerolínea Vuelo Hora Prev. Hora Rev. Ciudad Puerta Estatus

_________________________________
LUFTHANSA 534 15:20 15:14 FRANKFURT LLEGO

LACSA 631 15:25 15:19 SAN JOSE LLEGO

ALITALIA 666 15:40 16:24 MILAN DEMORADO

IRAN AIR 744 15:45 TEHERAN

IRAN AIR 744 15:45 DAMASCO

IBERIA 6703 16:35 MADRID

LAN CHILE 568 17:25 SANTIAGO

LAN CHILE 568 17:25 GUAYAQUIL
_________________________


 Smile LatinPlane


User currently offlineDc863 From Denmark, joined Jun 1999, 1558 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 20739 times:

Yeah this route should be called the Route of the Dictators. It's purely for political reasons. I'd love to see the load factors for this route in 6 months.

User currently offlineFlyDreamliner From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2759 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 20672 times:

Wow, Iran, Syria, and Venezuela all on one flight. That's amazing. It's like the axis of evil 2.0 express.

It's of course a political statement route, but go figure. It'll provide easy transportation for whomever from these countries to go about whatever business they want to work with each other. Damascus to Caracas has got to be a very long flight on IranAir.... even if it is on the lightning quick 747SP



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User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2005 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 20638 times:

Guess what ?

IRAN AIR 744 15:45 TEHERAN CANCELADO
IRAN AIR 744 15:45 DAMASCO CANCELADO

This is what the website of the airport shows...nice start. Seeing is believing is still valid in aviation !


User currently offlineErikgnoha From Venezuela, joined Jun 2006, 214 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 20634 times:

According to Maiquetia's website it says the flight was canceled.

AIR FRANCE 460 15:05 15:03 PARIS LLEGO
TACA PERU 034 15:15 15:01 LIMA LLEGO
LUFTHANSA 534 15:20 15:14 FRANKFURT LLEGO
LACSA 631 15:25 15:19 SAN JOSE LLEGO
ALITALIA 666 15:40 16:24 MILAN DEMORADO
IRAN AIR 744 15:45 TEHERAN CANCELADO
IRAN AIR 744 15:45 DAMASCO CANCELADO
IBERIA 6703 16:35 MADRID
LAN CHILE 568 17:25 SANTIAGO
LAN CHILE 568 17:25 GUAYAQUIL
LANPERU 564 17:30 LIMA
AVIANCA 080 17:50 BOGOTA

This check was done at 16:01 local time.



Venezuela, donde los suenos renacen
User currently offlineErikgnoha From Venezuela, joined Jun 2006, 214 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 20599 times:

Oops, Chiguire, you were quicker than me only for a few seconds. Does anyone know why this flight was canceled?


Venezuela, donde los suenos renacen
User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12468 posts, RR: 37
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 20593 times:

Quoting FlyDreamliner (Reply 6):
Wow, Iran, Syria, and Venezuela all on one flight. That's amazing. It's like the axis of evil 2.0 express.

I was just thinking of that; all they need is a connection from Pyongyang to Tehran and they can take in another one!

Wonder what the cause of the cancellation was? Surely not overbooking?!


User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2005 posts, RR: 16
Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 20580 times:

Quoting Erikgnoha (Reply 9):
Oops, Chiguire, you were quicker than me only for a few seconds. Does anyone know why this flight was canceled?

Sorry Erik..... I would guess that the flight has been scheduled and slots were coordinated. So it appears on the airport screens. But it might be that the airline starts later....or not.


User currently offlineErikgnoha From Venezuela, joined Jun 2006, 214 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 20549 times:

Quoting Chiguire (Reply 11):
Sorry Erik..... I would guess that the flight has been scheduled and slots were coordinated. So it appears on the airport screens. But it might be that the airline starts later....or not.

Yes, I think that too. Maybe in a month or two we could see an Iran Air schedule flight in CCS.

Also Cubana re-started schedule flights to CCS since November I think, 3 weekly flights, plus the 3 weekly flights of VH.



Venezuela, donde los suenos renacen
User currently offlineIAD380 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 804 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 20466 times:

Quoting Erikgnoha (Reply 8):
IRAN AIR 744 15:45 TEHERAN CANCELADO
IRAN AIR 744 15:45 DAMASCO CANCELADO

Do you think the flight was cancelled because of bad weather, "techinical problems", or the lack of passengers?  Wink


User currently offlineCba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4531 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 20411 times:

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 3):

It reminds me of the old Communist long-haul routes such as Eastern Europe-Vietnam...not a real big market, but definitely a "prestige" route.

Sort of like the old Aeroflot flights to Havana. Do they still operate those?


User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2005 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 20282 times:

Quoting CayMan (Reply 15):
(and will be tough to beat!).

I remember Air Zimbabwe wanted to start Harare-Beijing (stopping somewhere). Also a political route...maybe even more.

Although I totally agree that these flights are "idiotic" I want to remind that there is a Iranian-Venezuelan factory producing tractors and they are currently building a car plant. So there might be a very limited traffic in future. This little traffic could be handled through Paris or Frankfurt. No need of a weekly direct service.


User currently offlinePzurita1 From Greenland, joined Sep 2002, 1393 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 20258 times:

Where or how can I buy a ticket of this flight? I would be starting in CCS.

PZ



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User currently offlineLamedianaranja From Venezuela, joined Nov 2004, 1246 posts, RR: 20
Reply 17, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 19872 times:

Quoting Erikgnoha (Reply 9):
Does anyone know why this flight was canceled?

They wanted to start boarding the flight in THR when they realized they didn't have an A340 as announced Big grin



I wish that all skies were orange and blue!!
User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 19865 times:

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 3):
This route is most definitely NOT designed to make money.

This route can make money as there are many lebanese/syrian and maybe other arab nationals in venezuela, provided there are connections



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User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 19838 times:
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Quoting Cba (Reply 14):
Sort of like the old Aeroflot flights to Havana. Do they still operate those?

Yes, once a week with 763 equipment.

Quoting Chiguire (Reply 17):
I remember Air Zimbabwe wanted to start Harare-Beijing (stopping somewhere). Also a political route...maybe even more.

And UM still flies to BJS with an stop at SIN.



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User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 19771 times:

Did you notice it's a 744 = 747-400 ?

IR doesn't have one !!!!!!!

It is said that Mahan Air got 3 (Ex UA , Ex BlueSky , flying with EK- regs = Armenia).

Perhaps one of them will fly for IR.Just a though.


User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2238 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 19694 times:

Quoting FCKC (Reply 22):
Did you notice it's a 744 = 747-400 ?

That's the flight number not the aircraft type!

Otherwise, AZ flies to CCS with a 666 Big grin



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User currently offlineErikgnoha From Venezuela, joined Jun 2006, 214 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 19385 times:

Quoting Lamedianaranja (Reply 19):
They wanted to start boarding the flight in THR when they realized they didn't have an A340 as announced

Hahaha... that's what I thought too. Does anybody know when are they going to receive this A-340?



Venezuela, donde los suenos renacen
User currently offlineCV580Freak From Bahrain, joined Jul 2005, 1033 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 19241 times:

The thought of riding all that way on a 747SP with my fingers (and everything else) crossed Sad


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User currently offlineSukhoi From Sweden, joined May 2006, 373 posts, RR: 8
Reply 24, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 18863 times:

Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 21):
Quoting Cba (Reply 14):
Sort of like the old Aeroflot flights to Havana. Do they still operate those?

Yes, once a week with 763 equipment.

It says four times a week on amadeus?

If Iran Air offer a bargain price from ARN via THR-DAM to CCS not sure if the THR-DAM-CCS connect with the ARN-THR flights and how much a transit visa is but I would not hesitate to book a trip like this if it´s a good price like €500  smile 


25 Avianca : btw I was yesterday at the airport, saw already the new Iran Air check-in desks (they are shared with Conviasa) next to the LH ones..... but I didnt s
26 OA260 : The flight used to be operated by an IL96 or 86 im not sure which but it used to stop off in Shannon . They sold tickets on it SNN-HAV . I never got
27 Koosi : You may be surprised how many Vietnamese people live here.
28 Dc863 : Well the load factor on one of Iran's SP's will be about 10%. All the pax will be diplomats or military advisors.
29 Post contains links QatarA340 : According to http://sg.biz.yahoo.com/070124/16/465sr.html : Maybe the flights were scheduled from the beggining next month. Then again, I wouldn't tru
30 Post contains images Latinplane : No way, not enough to support such as a flight. There's a lot of people of Syrian descent in Argentina, and you don't see a flight linking Damascus a
31 RP TPA : Hmmmm....Tehran, Damascus, Caracas....I wonder what would happen if this plane ever had a mid-flight emergency and had to divert to to the USA?
32 777way : Flights are up at Amadeus time table showing service from March.
33 Post contains links Bimmerkid19 : You don't have to be so judgemental. Im guessing they'ed be allowed to land but would be watched like a hawk. An Iranair 747SP has been at JFK many t
34 RP TPA : What did I say in my post that was "judgemental"?? I was merely being speculative. It would be an interesting scenario, but not much different than t
35 2travel2know : There's a sizable afluent Middleeastern community in Venezuela (and Colombia, Ecuador), even if they can't sustain a CCS-DAM service alone, they'll ha
36 Avianca : I wouldn't say zero demand.... In Venezuela are living a lot of people from Middle-East country's... they have a big part of the commerce on hand....
37 A300 : Both Iran and USA are members of ICAO. American aircraft routinely overfly Iran. There was a NW that made an emergency landing in THR back in 2005. Th
38 Post contains links and images A342 : The cargo capacity of the 747SP is miserable ! However, with almost no baggage (no pax), it becomes somewhat more acceptable... The route is quite fa
39 Avianca : true regarding the cargo capacity... but it would be not the first time such carriers are using the SP to carry only cargo... can well remeber that S
40 IAD380 : I don't much about the 747SP, except that it is old. Will this aircraft need to make refueling stops between DAM and CCS in either direction? Assuming
41 Post contains links TGV : Considering the route is passing at 1150 nm from MIA, I guess there are few chances to see such an event happen ! http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=
42 Post contains images N1120A : Well, their 747SP is more than capable of that Probably at the airport I take it you mean PEK No, that is flight number 744. It would divert and be f
43 MAH4546 : Just as a Northwest Airlines plane made an emergency landing in Tehran in 2005, if an Iranair flight had an emegency, it would most definitley be cle
44 YVRLTN : What would that freight be?? Im a freight forwarder, and my company will ship anything to any country as long as there is no embargo on that product,
45 BPS3458 : Being a freight forwarder myself I wouldn't hesitate one minute to book freight on this flight being 100% certain that the freight rate would be half
46 Post contains links and images DEVILFISH : Here is a more recent photo of the sole serviceable 747SP..... View Large View MediumPhoto © Thomas Wirtenberger It's nice to still see one on r
47 Amirs : Even Israel once let an Iranian a/c that was hijacked land in Israel when all other countires in the area denied the flight permission to land.
48 Avianca : you can be sure that "normal" cargo like drilling equipment would be moved via LH for example ...
49 Post contains images RAFVC10 : NEWS NEWS NEWS NEWS NEWS!!!!!!! Iran Air has post it's scheduled flights from THR to CCS with inaugural flight on April 6, 2007 and operating just one
50 OA260 : IR 744 FRIDAY 06 APR 07 ----------------------------------------------------------- BRD TIME T D/I OFF TIME T D/I FLY/GROUND EQP THR 0500 2 I DAM 0615
51 Post contains images Avianca : why not.... specially if they are offering cheap fares to europe via THR
52 OA260 : IR 744 FRIDAY 06 APR 07 ----------------------------------------------------------- BRD TIME T D/I OFF TIME T D/I FLY/GROUND EQP DAM 0745 I CCS 1545 I
53 Douglasdc10 : Accoprding to a german magazine, EP-IAB is back in service since December 2006. So we would have two operating Iran Air 747SP.
54 Avianca : yes as 15 hours without booze and than in eco...
55 Soups : Would be interesting to fly LHR-THR-DAM-CCS
56 Post contains images Avianca : looks like they will fill the flights with airliners.net nuts and diplomatic traffic...
57 Viscount724 : And Israel and Iran maintained fairly close diplomatic relations from Israel's founding in 1948 until the Islamic revolution in Iran in the late 1970
58 LH459 : Actually, it appears the first flight will operate on March 16th, and it's pretty full: 16MAR FRI THR/Z‡3.5 CCS/AST-7.5 IR RESPONSE ** DIRECT CONNE
59 Post contains links and images Latinplane : Correct. Iraqi operated the Baghdad - Lisbon - Rio de Janeiro route in the early 80s. This route was flown for political reasons and its main reason
60 Ikramerica : They should tag on a North Korea segment, just for shits and giggles.
61 YVRLTN : I agree 100%, as long as it is guaranteed the flight will go so the client isnt let down, but my point was there will be certain cargoes that LH (and
62 Post contains images B52murph : Ok, so it just has to make an interesting ironic statement, though--a political prestige route from THR-CCS on a 747? Last time I checked, Boeing was
63 OA260 : Now that would have been a great trip. Yeah that would make a great trip report!!! Well the Americans are good for something LOL So whos gonna ride t
64 Pzurita1 : I am definetly taking this flight as soon as fares are published. Any one can help me on this? Anyone want to come along? PZ
65 Ghost77 : Yeap! Any hint on fares? I might be on Peter! What i dislike its that its only a weekly frequency!
66 DiscoverCSG : The US being a civilized country, we'd let them land just like we would any other plane whose passengers were in trouble. If anybody were injured or
67 Post contains images IAD380 : Will the fare be published in US Dollars? After the novelty wears off, we will find out what the demand for this flight really is. In April 2008, whi
68 LXM83 : Or you could do a LHR-DAM on RB 74L and DAM-CCS on IR 74L. How cool would it be to fly on the two last scheduled airlines using the 747SP on the same
69 Post contains images PennPal : No, they're just as bad as CNN wants you to think...
70 Post contains images LH459 : Fantastic! Thanks for that! And the other details were very interesting, too.
71 Soups : I though they operated it via CMN and not lisbon.
72 Post contains links and images DEVILFISH : If so, the resident photo hounds here on A.net had been remiss - as the latest photos in the database were from the September 2004 sightseeing flight
73 OA260 : DAM-CCS-DAM €583 PLUS TAX!!!! NOT BAD AT ALL
74 Jimyvr : First flight should be 02MAR07[Edited 2007-02-08 17:20:01]
75 Avianca : were can you book it ? well via internet=
76 OA260 : Im not sure , I can book it in my office on our computers . I guess you can book it though any IR office also .
77 Avianca : ok, because on the IR homepage CCS still does not show as destination....
78 Jimyvr : call your travel agent
79 OA260 : I sont think his local Travel Agent would have an IATA CIP plate yet so they cant issue tickets!!! There must be an IR GSA in CCS if they are flying
80 Post contains images Birdwatching : Guys, I'm in! (If I can get a couple of days off in spring) Soren
81 Adriaticus : IL86, SVO-SNN-HAV-MEX-HAV-SNN-SVO. I made that trip twice. Landing in SNN took place late in the evening/early morning and the duty free shops were c
82 Jetjeanes : Wasnt there an Dal L-10-11 that has been sitting in THR for a while now or is it gone
83 Avianca : + the last time I used a travel agent is more than nearly 10 years ago.... I am normally using the internet... let me check... anyway it would be a r
84 Post contains images PlymSpotter : DAM-THR and reverse is available too, and that's only £150 or so! Definitely though, I will fly this one! You could actually make a good trip from L
85 Airportmanager : Would be great to see this in Ecuador. No chances I guess right?
86 OA260 : True!!!! To be honest there is not much choice between Iranian politians and anyone who wanted to set up a modern and free society would be quickly c
87 QatarA340 : DC to London is a flight between two capitals and airlines dont serve this route simply to gloriofy relations between the Kindgdom and the USA. There
88 Chiguire : You should not talk about something you have no clue ! And from what you say it is pretty clear that you don't have the slightest idea on what is goi
89 OA260 : Cuba is my favourite Caribbean Island and its people are amazing. I have been there 4 times and Cuba gains my total respect.
90 Chiguire : Agreed 100 % ! No doubt, they deserve our respect ! I want to make sure that my statement was not related to the very nice and friendly people of Cub
91 DiscoverCSG : It would seem that many people want to (and do) travel each of these routes, judging by the multiple frequencies daily on each. Without having number
92 Avianca : like 10 passengers per year...
93 2travel2know : Regardless of the Venezuela-Cuba charters, the major player in the scheduled service isn't Cubana or Aeropostal but CM, CCS-HAV twice daily, MAR-HAV
94 Dennys : sorry , but an A340-200 is the right plane for IR ti restaure its ultra lon hauls ! rgds Denn
95 Avianca : but with stop in PTY, this service is mainly used for business traffic.... but I have my doubts they have a bigger market-share than VH or CU.... reg
96 Chiguire : You are right here, this is the reason Chavez came to power. But I, too don't want to start with politics here Yes, but I am sure that the market pow
97 Dennys : Sorry my Friends , but where did you get this info ; i saw the iran air . com / no CCS destination mentionned . rgds dennys
98 Chiguire : Check the GDS. The flight is available and open for bookings from Apr 13th to Oct 27th. Leaving THR Fridays on 05:00 am, arriving CCS at 15:45h, leav
99 A300 : The IR summer schedule is now available as a PDF file on their website. The THR-DAM-CCS-DAM-THR weekly flights are listed, using Boeing B747SPs. The T
100 OA260 : Cool , good for IranAir !!! Its great to see them with some new routes.
101 Chiguire : So today the first flight is scheduled to arrive at 15:45h. It is supposed to have left THR at 05:00h in the morning. Does anybody know it the flight
102 Post contains links and images Lamedianaranja : I guess we're all checking http://www.aeropuerto-maiquetia.com.ve/lineas/index.asp today !
103 Chiguire : I guess we don't need to do that. I just tried to book the return tomorrow CCS-THR in "C" and it came back as "UN" (=Unable) from the GDS.
104 Post contains images ZakHH : EP-IAB showed up in HAM yesterday. I have a photo in the upload queue, but the lighting was difficult, and I arrived only seconds before the departur
105 Avianca : well the flight is delayed..... Aerolínea Vuelo Hora Prev. Hora Rev. Ciudad Puerta Estatus AEROPOSTAL 861 10:40 16:55 PORT SPAIN DEMORADO COPA AIRLIN
106 Chiguire : I am sure that it won't last long if they continue to reject Business Class bookings..... But anyway...WELCOME !
107 Post contains links and images Latinplane : It arrived! About four hours late, but Iran Air's 747 is now sitting at Maiquetia and thus opening new service between Teheran and Caracas. Wow, can't
108 797 : Oh my... I'm going down next weekend to see if I can spot it and bring up some pics... Don't know if I'm happy for this or what... Cheers
109 Post contains images Cedars747 : Once I flew Iraqi Airways AMM-GIG and now I will definitely fly Iran Air DAM-CCS Alex!!!
110 Post contains images Avianca : maybe already full, buy goverment guys from venezuela...... well maybe the business class was full ??? looks like IR will make money alone from booki
111 Post contains links Chiguire : Press from today: http://noticias.eluniversal.com/2007/03/03/eco_art_197438.shtml about inaugural flight. So it is finally there. Interesting that the
112 Avianca : would be great to see them both soon here in CCS, I can even imagine that LOT could be doing good with all european connections that they offer ....
113 Chiguire : They already tried to start flights to PMV, but the operators couldn't find enough rooms. Definetly - nice connections to UAE, India and Far East. Th
114 Avianca : if AV starts more Europe flights... CCS has lost... BOG is just 1 hour far away from CCS (when flights are comming from Europe) so I do not see much
115 Cedars747 : Maybe what you ignore is that a very prosper Syrian and Lebanese collectivity lives in Venezuela,Colombia and Ecuador, an example is the former presi
116 Avianca : you can also count Shakira....... why should any lebanese living in Colombia took this flight, if he has daily flights via CDG on AF ? for example...
117 Cedars747 : And what about Syrians ? Alex!!!
118 Avianca : first the Syrian comunity in Colombia and Venezuela isnt big.... second there are still flights via FRA (LH) or even CDG with combined tickets....
119 Cedars747 : And what about a nonstop B747 flight CCS-DAM ? Alex!!!
120 Avianca : I do not see why it should be more attactive to use this flight, as it is only one weekly, same costs, not same product that any other european carie
121 Cedars747 : Maybe because you are not from Arabic origins.I am sure that the ones from Arab and Middle Eastern origins will appreciate this flight .This flight w
122 Avianca : still have my doubts..... most arabic origins are today more latinamerican than the classic latinamerican people.... hopefully, but I do not think so
123 Cedars747 : And what this has to do with that ? We are talking about a nonstop flight from CCS to Syria So what ...........they are regular flights anyway ! Alex
124 Avianca : it has to do that the most even do not know Iran Air, specially as Iran Air is not a carrier from arabia. currently first flight arrived... so lets s
125 Cedars747 : But when booking,they will know that they have a nonstop option taking them directly to Damascus 3 or 2 ,ill or not ,nothing will change the fact tha
126 Avianca : only if they pick up the correct day.... and the chance is 1 to 7 have to agree, Syria and Iran are two wonderfull countries, with great people and g
127 Post contains images Cedars747 : Y dale Avianca ! we are talking about tourists We are talking about nonstop flight from CCS to DAM and THR Alex!!!
128 Avianca : I am sure there are many tourist from NorthernSouthamerica arround that have these countrys on the too do list... mostly they even do not know where
129 Chiguire : But - back to the topic. The 747 SP took of yesterday evening around 18:45h from CCS. It is scheduled to arrive in THR 18:45h local time. I wonder if
130 747hogg : The pax in Iran were still so upset over the Anna Nicole- Britney Spears shockers they just were not in a position to fly. give these fine people time
131 Luisde8cd : 60 pax from THR and 40 from DAM. R/T tickets from CCS sell for: DAM: USD 2400 THR: USD 3400 Both destinations are very expensive, compared with AZ wh
132 Avianca : Luis, from where do you know the loadfactor??? AF offers also CCS-THR-CCS for around 1100 EURO....
133 Post contains links Luisde8cd : www.eud.com, look under "Viajeros reciben orquideas". Saludos desde Caracas, Luis
134 Chiguire : The GDS show a fare of 1000 USD plus around 200 Taxes = 1200 USD which is a good fare - and it is negotiable for groups/events/operators as far as I
135 Pzurita1 : Wow!!! That is ludocrously expensive. I was so eager to fly this route, but with those prices it is absolutetly impossible. I thought they were going
136 Chiguire :
137 Cedars747 : Dios mio!! no te puedo creer,son tan incultos ? And ??? NO POLITICS IN A CIVIL AVIATION FORUM Alex!!!
138 Post contains links Orl777 : Hey, I have the Opportunity to go Down to CCS and Took a picture of Iran Air, The registration was EP-IAB. Here you have the link. http://www.myaviati
139 Cedars747 : Amazing pic ! Thanks Orl777 Iran Air was a pioneer in the Middle East to introduce the B747 SP Alex!!!
140 Abrelosojos : = The fare is around USD 999+ right now and less with tour groups. I think the higher fare might have been for J class or higher. Cheers, A.
141 Post contains links and images Chiguire : Hey ! Great ! Thanks for that Orlando ! Here it is (put the maid: in front of the No. !) MyAviation.net photo: Photo © Orlando Suarez
142 Orl777 : Thanks Chiguire for posting!! So, Iran Air was Scheduled for depart on Saturday but they Departed Back to Tehran on Sunday Night About 22:00, The flig
143 Post contains images Chiguire : Wow, I didn't know Aeropostal is handling their flights.... Does someone know the reason for that ?
144 Viscount724 : IR must get terrible utilization from the 747SP. It sits on the ground at CCS for 27 hours between inbound and outbound flights. It's either that or h
145 Chiguire : The crew needs to stay 24 hours. The flight arrived on Friday at 20:48h, so the earliest departure would have been Saturday 20:48h. No clue why they
146 Cedars747 : Than I am sure that the fare from THR and DAM will be around 500 $ Alex!!!
147 Post contains links Chiguire : The fare out of THR is 800-1000 NUC. I don't know which is the fare out of CCS, but I guess taking the "unofficial" exchange rate it would be even lo
148 Orl777 : Guys What do you Think? This new flight will be Profitable?
149 Post contains links and images Lamedianaranja : Conviasa's president Franklin Martinez has told the media that he expects 10.000.000 (ten million) passengers in the first 2 months! That makes 16 fl
150 Post contains images Amax1977 : Ok! I am in Lisbon... Wanna make a vacation trip... Baghdad's Fallujah Resort or Copacobana? Tough decision...
151 Cedars747 : The flight was Baghdad-Amman-Lisbon-Rio onboard B747 Alex!!!
152 Chiguire : Todays flight improved a lot: delay only 2 hours (5 last week). Let's see if the departure tomorrow is late as well (last week 26 hours !!). COPA AIRL
153 Semsem : This route will make a lot of money I am sure.
154 Avianca : it looks flight will departure without any delay... S&aeacute;bado 10/03/2007 17:03:02 Aerolínea Vuelo Hora Prev. Hora Rev. Ciudad Puerta Estatus AME
155 Chiguire : Last week it looked the same.....except the IR flight that stayed there until next day. But: good luck, maybe you can see it !
156 Avianca : well it looks like it departed on time... but I didnt saw it... it looks like it didnt take off with a very east bound direction....
157 Chiguire : No, I checked at 19:45h and the web still said "boarding".
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