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United Upgrades RDU  
User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6752 posts, RR: 17
Posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3979 times:

Well I'll be darn if it's just rolling here..

United adds the seasonal DEN service using the 737-500 and now United is upgrading 2 of the ORD flights to 737-500! Though it looks to be seasonal for right now.

I can only surmise from this that all of pre-9/11 United employees have either retired, transferred, quit, fired, or replaced with regional employees who are allowing United to bring in the babies!

Whatever the case, this is EXCELLENT news!


Aiming High and going far..
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User currently offlineXJET From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 491 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3966 times:

RDU really is gaining some service in the past couple of days! It is good to see for the research triangle.

User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4036 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3949 times:

I flew the ORD-RDU segment around two years ago...could have sworn it was on a 757. But I suppose I'm mistaken  Smile Upgrades are always good!

User currently offlineERAUgrad02 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1227 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3809 times:

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 2):
I flew the ORD-RDU segment around two years ago...could have sworn it was on a 757. But I suppose I'm mistaken Upgrades are always good!

I was one of the supervisors then in rdu. we were only crjs ACA station.



Desmond MacRae in ILM
User currently offlineCasInterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4460 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks ago) and read 3602 times:

Quoting ERJ170 (Thread starter):
I can only surmise from this that all of pre-9/11 United employees have either retired, transferred, quit, fired, or replaced with regional employees who are allowing United to bring in the babies!

It would be interesting to see what occurred with the employee base in RDU.

Either way it appears United does not want to miss out on the growth of RDU anymore. Seems they might finally be getting smarter about what markets they need to be in to GROW their revenue.



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User currently offlineRDUDDJI From Lesotho, joined Jun 2004, 1455 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3398 times:

Hmmm, me thinks me might have to leave my CHI post and head home...


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User currently offlineATWZW170 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 904 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3196 times:

As far as I know RDU is still an Air Wisconsin station for UA. Haven't heard that Air Wisconsin is losing any business -- I know Skywest handles PSP for United and mainline jets do go in and out of there....not sure how it's going to change things.


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User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6752 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2945 times:

**********************************Public Announcement****************************************************

New information...

Looks like RDU-DEN is no longer seasonal but year-round.

Flt 561 (737-500) runs April - October.
Flt 7750 (E70) takes over from that point.

On another note, Air Canada brings back the seasonal 4th flight that runs April - October...


**********************************End Transmission**********************************************************



Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlineUnitedTristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2919 times:

Quoting ATWZW170 (Reply 6):
I know Skywest handles PSP for United and mainline jets do go in and out of there

UA pulled mainline from PSP years ago...they have had winter seasonal service from Chicago but that is no longer.

-m

 airplane 


User currently offlineJDAirCEO From Uruguay, joined Jan 2006, 259 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2855 times:

With AA increasing four flights to MD-80s, UA adding/starting mainline service, and AC adding another rotation, terminal C will be very crowded until the new wing is finished. Cover the place with carpet and it will start to feel like
terminal A.



An MD-80 is great... in first class
User currently offlineAAflyguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 358 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2617 times:

UA is still operating PSP-ORD seasonally. It returned last winter, was a late add for this winter also, and is currently flying daily. Additionally, the UA schedule planning team pulled off a coup for PSP. The ORD-PSP flight continues to DEN. Conversely, the new DEN-PSP flight continues to ORD. So PSP gets two mainline UA seasonal trips out of the deal. The PSP flights are operated with 319s, so there's a bit more capacity on the PSP-DEN run now. There's a clause in the contract with the UA ground crew that states UA mainline cannot operate for more than 6-months in an Express station without that station being staffed with UA personnel. If it remains at under 6-months, the Express carrier (in this case, SkyWest) can work the mainline equipment and Express service. That's the case in PSP. Now with the E170s, there could very well be something similar to the DEN-RDU route, because the plane has the range to fly PSP-ORD, and do it year-round since it's an Express aircraft.

User currently offlineCroCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2585 times:

Quoting CasInterest (Reply 4):
Either way it appears United does not want to miss out on the growth of RDU anymore. Seems they might finally be getting smarter about what markets they need to be in to GROW their revenue.

Smarter? they have been smarter by increasing their presence in Asia. Rdu doesn't make the money like the Asian market. The 737-500's must have come from a Ted market? I can think of a few other cities I would add the 737's but oh well.

As far as the United metal is concerned. UAL is going to fly the planes seasonal, according to the IAM and union rules, UAL can only add service seasonal if they add service permanently they MUST use true UAL employees not Express employees. I would assume UAL would find some way around this contract rule.


User currently offlineFlyboy80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1876 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2513 times:

It seems that UA has been increasing domestic mainline operations lately, or anouncing them for summer at least... Especially to a couple former mainline stations.

User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2686 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2416 times:

Quoting ATWZW170 (Reply 6):
As far as I know RDU is still an Air Wisconsin station for UA.

 Confused Air Wisconsin hasn't flown for UA since last April...


User currently offlinePbiflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 185 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2404 times:

Quoting CroCop (Reply 11):
The 737-500's must have come from a Ted market?

Not at all. Ted is all A320's!



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User currently offlineFdex727 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2357 times:

Quoting United787 (Reply 13):
Air Wisconsin hasn't flown for UA since last April...

ZW is the ground handler at RDU and several other UAX stations.


User currently offlineAkjetBlue From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 790 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2272 times:

Quoting Fdex727 (Reply 15):
ZW is the ground handler at RDU and several other UAX stations.

Yep!

Wierd as it may seem, the last time i was in CHO I was astonished to see SkyWest handling UAX on an east coast city -as OO doesn't even operate in that station, guess it all goes to the lowest bidder.



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User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6752 posts, RR: 17
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2260 times:

Quoting ATWZW170 (Reply 6):
As far as I know RDU is still an Air Wisconsin station for UA.

How many Charter Express flights do ya'll handle a week? I know you handle the 12 UAX and 3 AC.. but I was just wondering how much business Charter Express handles..



Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlineAirEMS From United States of America, joined May 2004, 684 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2177 times:

Is RDU a under served market? I fly to NC every summer but it seems very few airlines fly there.... Is this another quickly growing market? IIRC AA even flew a 777 to LGW I think.

-Carl



If Your Dying Were Flying
User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6752 posts, RR: 17
Reply 19, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2152 times:

Quoting AirEMS (Reply 18):
Is RDU a under served market? I fly to NC every summer but it seems very few airlines fly there.... Is this another quickly growing market? IIRC AA even flew a 777 to LGW I think.

I wouldn't say RDU is underserved, but I would say there are a couple of more destinations that could be served; mainly SFO, SAN, PVD, BUF, and probably CUN. The three destinations that RTRP (Research Triangle Regional Partnership) is working on getting is SFO, FRA, and CDG (highest requested business routes).

AA still flies the 777 to LGW on a daily basis. Usually between 60-80% full depending on the time of year.. annually averages about 70%.



Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlineAirEMS From United States of America, joined May 2004, 684 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2099 times:

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 19):

Thanks for the information as I always say I'm waiting for the non stop from DEN to ILM so I don't have to drive to Wilmington but oh well

-Carl



If Your Dying Were Flying
User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6752 posts, RR: 17
Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2092 times:

Slight change in subject..

Since there was a discussion about CUTE use in another discussion, I thought I would add this article I recently read about RDU..

Sounds kinda great to me.. but I think I'm biased.. Read Discusses CUTE and more Terminal highlights

Highlights:

1. All Airlines welcome CUTE but Southwest (but could change when CUTE comes to Terminal A)
2. In-line baggage system will work CUTE, with routing performed by Terminal C tower
3. Luggage process by barcode, but move towards RFD sysem
4. All Advertising will be electronic on flat-panel screens
5. All gate and baggage info will be electronic
6. 3 international gate and a NEW FIS
7. Each ticketing island (with 20 agent counters) will have 2 conveyors to transport bags that will be delivered via CUTE
8. AA/AE has not decided how many gates they will use, but they will be on a 15 year lease.. everyone else will be month-to-month
9. Terminal A reconfiguration starts in 2011, and will have in-line baggage system for all airlines
10. Southwest moving to have between 30-40 flight at RDU from the current 28 (soon 29) and a 5th gate.
11. RDUAA is seriously wanting to move to RDU employees doing pax, baggage, and ramp work while airlines perform on the plane work only..



Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlineUnitedMSY From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1950 times:

Yes I can attest to this one, I have worked ORD-RDU on ERJ-170's a many occasion, and there is rarely a seat left. Good news for United, it is proving they can send 170's into the Southeast, build a market, and move on.

User currently offlineHiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2165 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1921 times:

Suprise suprise...319 going to RSW as well for the season...normally an all E170 market now.

User currently offlineRDUDDJI From Lesotho, joined Jun 2004, 1455 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1877 times:

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 21):
All Airlines welcome CUTE but Southwest (but could change when CUTE comes to Terminal A)

I can tell you, that is hard to believe. Most carriers I've worked with despise CUTE. It requires significant IT infrastructure work, and airlines have to modify their ABT's, BP's and basically lose much proprietary control over their gate operation. If they have to wait for the airport to update the FIDS/GIDS/RIDS then that can lead to delayed info for the pax. As far as the inline screening goes, you don't need CUTE for that. A programmatic adjustment will do that just fine.



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25 ERJ170 : RDU is taking control of that.. they will maintain the system.. but each airline will have a secured, blocked off section for each of their proprieta
26 Rdukid : What do u mean by that?
27 ERJ170 : RDU sees the future of airline moving towards the airport doing the gate/counter/ramp work and the airline just bringing in the planes and flying out.
28 Hiflyer : CUTE makes money for the airport but costs the carriers more if a fairly large operation. CUTE means everyone uses the same pc, bagtag printer, and bo
29 Rdukid : This is a little off topic but I was originally not planning to return home for summer break this year but now it turns out that I am and I am interes
30 ERJ170 : Newest updated information... According to the latest *A schedules... RDU-LAS changes --> 6 weekly flights through Apr15, then changes to 3 weekly fli
31 CasInterest : The plan is to probably connect some traffic through DEN (New) and PHX (May 11 increase) How are they looking against Southwest ? WN is adding 1 as f
32 Flyibaby : I don't doubt that RDU wants to do this, however I doubt many airlines would go for it. First of all, you have too many unions involved, and second i
33 ERJ170 : That may be, but LAS has more traffic than both of them.. so they could be losing O&D to WN... US = 10 to PHL (6 mainline); WN = 6 daily Note: the E7
34 DiscoverCSG : I think CroCop meant that the 735's were in a market and were replaced by Ted 320's, thus freeing up the 735's for these RDU flights.
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