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Flying Irish - All Aboard For 7/07!  
User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12325 posts, RR: 35
Posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 5261 times:

Welcome on board for another warp-speed cruise through the fast moving world of Irish aviation!

Things are starting to pick up now and we should see some very significant developments this month ...

- The resolution to the industrial issues relating to the new EI contracts will hopefully be sorted out sometime next week, which will hopefully allow EI to firm up some future plans.
- Tomorrow, tomorrow, I love ya, tomorrow ... is when the EU and US meet to discuss Open Skies. Current vibes are quite good. The German govt now in the driving seat is said to be determined to reach agreement. The clock is running counting down for an agreement this Summer ... tick, tick, tick ... The Germans will find ways of making it tock (sorry, I just had to).
- Once an agreement is done on Open Skies and with agreement on cuts done, we will hopefully see a deal being done on the long haul fleet.

Hopefully tomorrow's papers will tell us more (well, apart from the Sunday Times, which isn't putting its Irish edition on the web anymore!)  mad 

Well, here goes, people; boarding cards and photo ID at the ready, form an orderly queue and let's get flying ...

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User currently offlineAerArann From Ireland, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 5247 times:

Quoting Kaitak (Thread starter):
Well, here goes, people; boarding cards and photo ID at the ready, form an orderly queue and let's get flying ...

I Checked In Online ..... So I Get To Bypass The Queue Big grin


User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12883 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 5242 times:

So long as USA pax can fly non-stop on most flights to Dublin, rather via Shannon, then I support the open skies program. If they don't then it will have been a waste. Shannon is a political hangover, going back to the days of the Pan Am Clippers (their first/last Euro stop on those flying boats was at a nearby inlet/cove.

User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3901 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 5238 times:

Quoting AerArann (Reply 1):
I Checked In Online ..... So I Get To Bypass The Queue

I hope you've paid the fees for that!

Quoting AerArann (Reply 146):
Anyone Know Why OK are operating various flights DUB - ORK?

Are These Positioning Flights, Or are they operating Via ORK?

I think these are positioning flights for charters OK operates. OK have pulled off the ORK-PRG, and definately does not serve ACE as a scheduled destination, so there would have to be a positioning flight somewhere...

Incidently does anyone know if seats on these positioning flights are avaibable to buy?



Next flights: MAN-ORK-LHR(EI)-MAN(BD); MAN-LHR(BD)-ORK (EI); DUB-ZRH-LAX (LX) LAX-YYZ (AC) YYZ-YHZ-LHR(AC)-DUB(BD)
User currently offlineJWMD123 From Ireland, joined May 2006, 867 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 5240 times:

Just flew back in from CDG this morning. WOW what an airport. i mean the operation of everything is just great. They really do know how to run an airport.

Anyhow, I have 2 questions if anyone can answer them.

As we were approaching our gate I seen EI-DAA being moved to a contact stand near pier B? Thought this little dream machine would have been heading over the Atlantic (the reason i say this is because EI-LAX was set up at pier B ready to go, i assume the LAX route).

Also, heading out of the airport I noticed a Virgin Nigeria plane at SR technics. I did not think SR done work for Virgin Nigeria.

Anyway, flight was good, slight delay, the route in was great. We came up over the Dublin bay, across Dublin past the Red Cow, veering towards maynooth and back across. Never came in on that approach before. On a clear morning like today it was breath taking.


User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3901 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5221 times:

Quoting JWMD123 (Reply 4):
Virgin Nigeria plane at SR technics.

Was it an A330, if so this is actually a bmi bird, which is being leased to Virgin Nigeria for a period. Im not sure how long, three to six months, I think.

Did you leave from T1 CDG? Im guessing not, because thats the most vile, disgusting, badly desinged and dirty airport terminal Ive seen in Europe. No toilets or Shops once you enter the security zone and FILTHY floors and seats. Its a disgrace on a DUB scale. Dont even start on the train station.....

The AF terminal looks much better tho!  Wink



Next flights: MAN-ORK-LHR(EI)-MAN(BD); MAN-LHR(BD)-ORK (EI); DUB-ZRH-LAX (LX) LAX-YYZ (AC) YYZ-YHZ-LHR(AC)-DUB(BD)
User currently offlineRineanna From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 880 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 5191 times:

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 5):
Was it an A330, if so this is actually a bmi bird, which is being leased to Virgin Nigeria for a period. Im not sure how long, three to six months, I think

No I saw it yesterday too coming out of the airport and I'm nearly sure it was an A340.


User currently offlineToulouse From Switzerland, joined Apr 2005, 2754 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 5169 times:

Quoting JWMD123 (Reply 4):
Just flew back in from CDG this morning. WOW what an airport. i mean the operation of everything is just great. They really do know how to run an airport.

Not that this is Irish related, but I'm glad to see your comments, people love knocking CDG which in my opinion is a great airport, yet...

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 5):
Did you leave from T1 CDG? Im guessing not, because thats the most vile, disgusting, badly desinged and dirty airport terminal Ive seen in Europe. No toilets or Shops once you enter the security zone and FILTHY floors and seats

I do agree CDG1 just needs to be knocked down and built from scratch. When it was built it was probably very modern, avant-guard, but today is a disaster. The whole toilet issue is bizarre, so only pass security once ready for boarding, yet given the lack of toilets, seurity has never given me any problems in exiting to visit the WC which is just around the corner.

If he flew AF from DUB he would have been in CDG2 which is brilliant.



Long live Aer Lingus!
User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 6955 posts, RR: 57
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5165 times:

I notice that the transfer route in Dublin is again closed due to reconstruction... when is it due to open.

Any news on the new Ryanair check-in area?



The world is really getting smaller these days
User currently offlinePoitin From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5151 times:

Quote:
DM has referred in his comments that the competitive disadvantages now being faced by EI because of the current position are unsustainable, given the airline's future growth plans.

Incidentally, isn't the airline's annual report and 2006 results due to be announced sometime within the next few weeks? I can't remember what month the 2005 results were released last year.

You changed threads before I had a chance to see the last thread. While I am merely guessing since I do not know ISE rules, I would expect EI's first ever public company Annual report in the next few weeks, IF they have a January to December 31 year. I have not found a statement as to when their new public company year dates are; however, they use to have a Jan 1 to Dec 31 year, but that may have changed. In any case, they should at least have a quarterly report.

They use to publish their "annual report" in mid April. I think ISE requires a more prompt issuance.

Sounds like interesting reading and like DM is going to use it to get his way. I hope he wins the coming fight, as EI's future may well depend on him winning.


User currently offlinePelican22 From Ireland, joined Mar 2006, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5106 times:

The Virgin Nigeria is definitely an A340,reg is G-VBUS, I saw her landing last Tuesday

User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3901 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5098 times:

Quoting Toulouse (Reply 7):
If he flew AF from DUB he would have been in CDG2 which is brilliant.

I never been in T2! T1 and the rail station were disgusting in the extreme. DUB gets a lot of bashing on here, but Id rather it to CDG T1 any day. The place is vile.(or was when I was last there 2 years ago)

Quoting Poitin (Reply 9):
Sounds like interesting reading and like DM is going to use it to get his way. I hope he wins the coming fight, as EI's future may well depend on him winning.

While I fully agree that EI needs to get its house in order, I hope Dermot dosent go and needlessly wreck employee morale. WW managed it very, very well, and it made EI almost unbearable to fly on, for a time even FR were more pleasent. Once again EI is my carrier of choice, and I d like it to stay that way.

Quoting Pelican22 (Reply 10):
Virgin Nigeria is definitely an A340,reg is G-VBUS

Assumptions are dangerous! Sorry about that.

Brian.



Next flights: MAN-ORK-LHR(EI)-MAN(BD); MAN-LHR(BD)-ORK (EI); DUB-ZRH-LAX (LX) LAX-YYZ (AC) YYZ-YHZ-LHR(AC)-DUB(BD)
User currently offlineRineanna From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 880 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5084 times:

Just said I'd post a recent picture of Pier D that I took yesterday at DUB:
Big version: Width: 800 Height: 600 File size: 56kb
Pier D


BTW, my trip report including both SNN and DUB is now posted:
Shannon-Edinburgh/Aberdeen-Dublin (by Rineanna Feb 3 2007 in Trip Reports)


User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 6955 posts, RR: 57
Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5025 times:

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 11):
I never been in T2

T2F is a great design, with a wonderful cieling in the shape of concorde on both piers.. All Wx services depart from here, but are all remote stand served - these days parked up closer to T2E

Off topic, but CDG2 isnt that bad an airport, with the exception of the airside transfer coaches.



The world is really getting smaller these days
User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6279 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4983 times:

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 11):
WW managed it very, very well, and it made EI almost unbearable to fly on, for a time even FR were more pleasent. Once again EI is my carrier of choice, and I d like it to stay that way

I remember flying on EI in 2003 LHR-SNN and I will never forget the look on the FAs faces. They looked sad and almost angry at the passengers, they spoke quietly and barely looked the passengers in the eye. The whole flight was uncomfortable. Today it's very different and staff at Aer Lingus are some of the best in the world and I hope it remains like that!


User currently offlineToulouse From Switzerland, joined Apr 2005, 2754 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4972 times:

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 11):
I never been in T2! T1 and the rail station were disgusting in the extreme. DUB gets a lot of bashing on here, but Id rather it to CDG T1 any day. The place is vile.(or was when I was last there 2 years ago)

CDG1 is probably just as vile as it was when you were last there, it's also been a bit over a year since I flew through. CDG2 is another world

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 11):
While I fully agree that EI needs to get its house in order, I hope Dermot dosent go and needlessly wreck employee morale. WW managed it very, very well, and it made EI almost unbearable to fly on, for a time even FR were more pleasent. Once again EI is my carrier of choice, and I d like it to stay that way.

I totally agree with you. WW destroyed staff morale on EI, and I remember for a time I used to actually feel sad flying EI due to the staff. I must say they were never rude, but you could see their heart just wasn't in it. Thanksfully the old style freindly attitude has been back now for a number of years. Nevertheless, without WW I'm not so sure EI would still be around, so he must be given soome credit. I think DM is starting to take a slightly harder approach, which I think is needed, yet I imagine he'll be more sensitive to his staff. For me, WW was just a slightly less aggressive MOL.



Long live Aer Lingus!
User currently offlineShamrock330 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4970 times:

"AER LINGUS WEB LINK TO OPEN 100 NEW US ROUTES TO IRISH CUSTOMERS"

Aer Lingus customers will soon be able to book flights to almost 100 US cities on the airlines website as a result of a unique link up with a number of US based carriers.

From this Autumn, customers who access aerlingus.com will be able to book the onward leg of their US journey at the cheapest rate complete with baggage transfer. The seamless booking transaction will be facilitated by a unique link up of aerlingus.com qith the websites of seeveral US carriers.

"Carriers in the US have an enormous network, some serving hundreds of cities, Aer Lingus need only deal with three or four airlines, but this can give us an enormous reach" Enda Corneille, Commercial Director Aer Lingus

The airline promises to take the cheapest fare on one carrier and combine it with the cheapest on the US carrier's website. The initiative should go some way towards helping Aer Lingus expand its reach in the absence of an agreed open skies deal .

Finally looks like we have some positive movement, the future looks good.
Taken form Sunday business post article.


User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3901 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4958 times:

Quoting Toulouse (Reply 15):
Thanksfully the old style freindly attitude has been back now for a number of years. Nevertheless, without WW I'm not so sure EI would still be around, so he must be given soome credit.

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I remember those periods, it was awful. FAs hid in the galley, pulled the curatins and that was it. On my last few flights they have been up and down the cabin quite a bit, friendly and chatty. I dont think the curtaine were closed at all! (Im sure the only reason that the're not closed @ FR is becasue theyve been dumped!)

Whenever I see an EI bird in that beautiful green livery it makes me proud, especially those 330s. About three years ago @ BOS there was a pair of 330s parked on stand, but I was headed to LHR on BA. I so dearly wished I was getting on the green one! (Still had an EI 321 to ORK tho!)

When Im returning home for the weekend I love to board EI quite early so I can sit back and observe, the accents, attitude and smell of EI.

For me its summed up by "You're Home"

Dont care what anyone else says, EI are a fantastic carrier. If people cant live without TV for 6-10 hours maybe they shouldn't travel....thy'll most likely spend their time in the local Holiday Inn watching infomercials.  Yeah sure Have people forgotten about books? The servie is friedly and the food (complementary or paid) is of a very high standard for airline grub....

"And on selected flights Y pax can now shower in flight with our complements!"  wink   biggrin 

Good ole 'JFK!



Next flights: MAN-ORK-LHR(EI)-MAN(BD); MAN-LHR(BD)-ORK (EI); DUB-ZRH-LAX (LX) LAX-YYZ (AC) YYZ-YHZ-LHR(AC)-DUB(BD)
User currently offlineAC747 From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 277 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4956 times:

Can anyone tell me , what is the status of EuroCypria Airlines in DUB ? Are their flights fully scheduled now as a takeover from the defunct Helios/AlphaJet ?
I see they are listed as flying on Mo and Fr to LCA and their website allows DUB-LCA flight only bookings.



Haven't we been here before ?
User currently offlineAC747 From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 277 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4941 times:

Another DUB related question !!!
I notice that TP are listed as operating a (codeshare)Summer service to Ponta Delgada.
Details are listed as :

Flight TP6655 Carrier TAP Portugal
Aircraft Model Airbus Industrie A320
Operator ATA Aerocondor

Departing Dublin Airport
Fridays
Time 14:20

Arriving Ponta Delgada Airport Nordela
Fridays
Time 17:00


There is no mention of a 'via LIS or FAO', but AeroCondor operate Shorts 360 and Dornier228 and ATR42 props so would they be leasing a TP 320 for the service ?
I'm a wee bit puzzled !!



Haven't we been here before ?
User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6279 posts, RR: 14
Reply 20, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4917 times:

Quoting Shamrock330 (Reply 16):

That's great news and should help EI take on DL and CO more effectively. I would have loved to see EI have it's own flights to more US destinations but because of the delay in OS this seems a great way to solve that problem.
I wonder what US carriers Aer Lingus has teamed up with? They talk about the cheapest fares so maybe an LCC like Jetblue from JFK.

Hopefully this means Aer Lingus can focus on more routes East now that the US is covered for the medium term.

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 17):
Dont care what anyone else says, EI are a fantastic carrier. If people cant live without TV for 6-10 hours maybe they shouldn't travel....thy'll most likely spend their time in the local Holiday Inn watching infomercials. Have people forgotten about books?

I agree and I think it's a shame that airlines must have PTVs to compete with other airlines but if it means EI load factors stop heading south, then I agree that they need them and I'm glad EI are adding them (supposedly)


User currently offlineShamrock330 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4901 times:

Quoting Shamrock350 (Reply 20):
They talk about the cheapest fares so maybe an LCC like Jetblue from JFK.

Perhaps Jetblue will be a partner, but do they really have the network spread that will allow such a dramatic increase in the destinations that Aer Lingus can "serve"?

I would imagine that the transfers to these strategic partners will primarily occur in both ORD/JFK.

I would imagine that this manouver will unnerve some of the competition, specifically Continental and Delta. Up to this point they've had an easy ride knowing that they have a free reign over passengers originating directly from both Dub & Snn who want to connect to an American destination not served by EI.

Competition will certainly be heating up when these partnerships are implemented. I've noticed alot of Continental advertising in the Irish media recently. Expect these big boys to put up a strong fight when EI come to take their passnegers.

[Edited 2007-02-04 13:55:24]

User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6279 posts, RR: 14
Reply 22, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4892 times:

There was a rumour sometime ago that EI was looking for an LCC partner in the US.
Here's JetBlue's route map:
http://www.jetblue.com/wherewefly/
There's a new route to SFO soon and current routes to Las Vegas from JFK.

There's other airlines that EI may have teamed up with I think we can cancel out DL and CO though.

Quoting Shamrock330 (Reply 21):
Expect these big boys to put up a strong fight when EI come to take their passnegers.

Aer Lingus will have a fight on their hands but I'm sure with the new product, good connections and that Irish charm they are known for, Aer Lingus will come out on top...hopefully  Wink


User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3901 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4882 times:

Quoting Shamrock330 (Reply 16):
Aer Lingus customers will soon be able to book flights to almost 100 US cities on the airlines website as a result of a unique link up with a number of US based carriers.

Its not just one carrier guys, but "a number".

I agree that JBLUE could be a good match at JFK, AA at BOS, maybe UA @ LAX. While its definately a move in the right direction, isnt this just an interline agreement? There is no mention of Boarding Passes being printed at DUB/SNN, but the tickets will all be bookable @ aerlingus.com

Ironically since EI have dumped OW connections are getting better, not worse! With more codeshares and moves such as this!

On another note, this should make it easier for EI to get a better idea of where direct service from DUB/SNN might work. It should also help to keep SNN viable.

Brian.

P.S. When looking at flight details on EI.com some services appear as operated by "32A" while others are operated by 320 or 321. What does the A notate? That it could be an A320orA321?

Thanks Guys!

[Edited 2007-02-04 14:45:22]


Next flights: MAN-ORK-LHR(EI)-MAN(BD); MAN-LHR(BD)-ORK (EI); DUB-ZRH-LAX (LX) LAX-YYZ (AC) YYZ-YHZ-LHR(AC)-DUB(BD)
User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6279 posts, RR: 14
Reply 24, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4834 times:

I think JetBlue is a good match, it has a great service, low fares and quite a few connections I also think the larger carriers like UA and AA would be good for Aer Lingus but would that mean UA would just codeshare with EI to DUB rather then start it's own service? I would love to see UA in Ireland.

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 23):
When looking at flight details on EI.com some services appear as operated by "32A" while others are operated by 320 or 321. What does the A notate? That it could be an A320orA321?

I have also seen "32H" and "32A" whereas other flights are Airbus Industrie A320. I think it's when the aircraft for that route has not been decided yet.


25 Poitin : I completely agree that the people are the company, particularly those who deal with the customers. Still there are too many people working for EI, p
26 Toulouse : Don't have much time (nor insight) so I'm sure somebody else can fill you in a bit more, but you are right in assuming the the FAs and pilots certain
27 JWMD123 : Brian, i agree T1 at CDG is not the best. i was more talking about the operation of the airport.As we were coming into land, there was another plane
28 Post contains links AerArann : The Aer Lingus Service Statistics For January '07 Are Quite Impressive Aer Lingus Statistics[Edited 2007-02-04 23:10:33]
29 Bx737 : I have to agree with the comments regarding WW. He did save the airline, but then went and lost the respect of his crews by relentlessly hitting us fo
30 CV580Freak : Anyone done the GF DUB/BAH ???, the last time I was in BAH a few of the GF F/a's said that they were fighting to get on that route for the craic on a
31 Post contains links Shamrock133 : http://www.boston.com/business/ticker/2007/01/logan_to_get_ne_1.html I just saw this today, FlyGlobeSpan to operate Boston-Knock twice a week. I'm not
32 Tonymctigue : I've noticed this too & the ads are worded in such a way that they encourage passengers who want to make connecting flights. I believe the wording of
33 Post contains links Shamrock350 : Seems to be getting better after the summer and winter problems with A330s, terror alerts and fog. Hopefully they can keep that up. They are the seco
34 OA260 : Jee, a weekend away and the Irish thread is up again and flying as usual!!! Ok took off from DUB on LX on Saturday. Gonna do a trip report and I got s
35 Toulouse : I had two experiences. One thanfully was on an EI A320. Similar thing, while I though we were still fairly high up in the clouds, one of the F/A's an
36 ThrottleHold : Of course you can't. It's published by FR, so therefore is most likely spin or pure lies. It' s the same with their claims about staff numbers. They
37 Shamrock350 : I've had many experiences landing in bad weather at ORK. It can be very scary at times because of the low clouds and fog that effects Cork so often. I
38 OA260 : Oh also one thing I saw a BAE146 of Air France operating a ZRH-CDG AF5107 at 1750 on Saturday. It was operated by Cityjet!!! I didnt know they did the
39 Rineanna : Yes, Cityjet operate several routes for AF other then the Irish routes under a franchise agreement. These include: CDG-BHX CDG-EDI CDG-Gothenburg CDG
40 Kaitak : I was in FLR last May and saw a few AF/Cityjet 146s (and Lufty RJ85s); very interesting airport to fly into; I flew Meridiana - on an A319 (see next m
41 Kaitak : Ryanair is now saying that if it gets a reasonably clean bill of health from the EU on competition grounds (my words, not theirs), they may look again
42 Post contains links Rineanna : Early next week according to the Indo: http://www.unison.ie/irish_independe...hp3?ca=9&si=1770044&issue_id=15220
43 Toulouse : This is standard, as Rineanna explained. Remember Cityjet is now a wholly-owned franchise of AF. And a main road and flats at the other end! What was
44 Post contains images Pe@rson : When's the first (or next) Irish get-together? It'd undoubtedly be considerable fun, at least if no Irish turn up. Just kidding.
45 AC747 : Thanks for that OA260. So, I'm guessing their main market would be irish leisure travellers. Not too many Cypriot residents travelling here ? No luck
46 OA260 : This may help!!!! Its is in fact TP taking some seats on the S4 (SATA) flight!!! ....5.. DUB PDL 1420 1700 S4 545 320 ....5.. DUB PDL 1420 1700 @TP66
47 Post contains links Shamrock350 : Here's the link about Aer Lingus and it's plans to team up with American carriers to offer 100 new destinations. Enda Corneille, commercial director o
48 AC747 : Fair play (once again !). Mystery solved. Nice to see the service treated as a fully scheduled op. Thanks !
49 Kaitak : I would have thought AA would be No1 on the list, but really, no matter who is was, this isn't the news we really want to hear; it's at best a short
50 OA260 : Ok one thing I meant to ask on here is when you are near bus stop 8 at the arrivals of Dublin Airport there is a bridge being build . At the moment it
51 Shamrock350 : Sadly I think this agreement is Aer Lingus telling us that they will not be able to expand in the US market this year or even next year seeing as the
52 Kaitak : Don't count it out too soon! The vibes about this week's talks in Washington are quite good. As I said above, the possibility of an interline agreemen
53 Provance : I think thats the new link corridor for Pier D
54 Shamrock350 : I hope that something is reached between the US and EU, Aer Lingus have two aircraft on order possibly four which if used just to increase frequencies
55 Post contains links and images EI787 : Here's the pic of it:
56 EIDAA : Thanks for posting that article. It is an interesting idea and I am looking forward to seeing it introduced later this year. He has a point that a la
57 Post contains links Kaitak : National Implementation Body to EI and unions: Sort it out by March 1st. The NIB has asked the two to come together and work things out and EI has bee
58 Bx737 : Regarding expansion on long haul. The new timetable for the summer leaves a 330 on the ground for three days. This could be used to open new routes at
59 Post contains links EI787 : The Irish Soccer Team had a problem with their plane this evening: http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/?jp=CWSNGBGBGBMH
60 Post contains images BrianDromey : Well considering that the 330s are rather prone to hissy fits it might be a wise decision on EIs part to allow some slack on the schedule: IF they we
61 Post contains images Bx737 : We on the outside do not know what preparation work has already been done to start up new routes, so the great ones may have a Plan C that can be imp
62 Toulouse : All I can is I hope so for your sake. I hold EI crews in the highest esteem, and you deserve to be treated well. In the end of the day, the crew is t
63 Planemanofnz : I'd come haha. They're screwed in all aspects. Asia - runway not long enough America - No rights Maybe they could try and get rights for Toronto? Wou
64 Bx737 : Thank you Toulouse for the vote of confidence. As I've said to you before I don't understand why TLS is not served year round, it makes more sense to
65 Post contains images BrianDromey : There was quite a strong talk of CPT for quite a while, but O/S delays have scuppered new aircraft orders and new routes, to the East,West and South.
66 Post contains links and images Poitin : For those of you who missed it, the FR 3rd quarter report is available here: http://www.ise.ie/app/announcementDetails.asp?ID=1399078 It is more detai
67 Pilot21 : Just to rub in the poor planning/thought processes that exist with DUB and Irish aviation in general, a local Dutch paper is reporting this morning th
68 OA260 : Oh know I see, actually looks quite nice. I hope they will have moving walkways though!!! Its a long way to walk it.
69 Dstc47 : Kaitak - some runway extension news but not as you would request for DUB. Story today suggests that a possible 270m runway extension for Sligo Airport
70 EIBoston : Any word from the OS talks?
71 Danny : One of EI 330 is at SR now, at the far back visible from ESSO petrol station. Perhaps finally the change we were waiting for?
72 Pilot21 : Well here we go, what we thought may happen, has happened Feb. 6 (Bloomberg) -- Aer Lingus Group Plc, Ireland's network airline, agreed to link its We
73 Post contains links and images Rineanna : Ryanair confirm Weeze as 19th base: http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/news....r=07&month=feb&story=gen-en-060207 I'm suprized DUB isn't included in the e
74 EIRules : No major surprises there, being discussed in another topic too. Good news for EI just pity its not an expansion of EI routes into America. I wonder w
75 Mccormk : The Jetblue partnership with EI could benifit FR if/when the take over eventually goes true. Think of it this way. (north America)B6---> (Longhoul to
76 Toulouse : FR already fly to Murcia from DUB and from what I can see will continue to do so. Don't forget Murcia, even though not one of the better known Spanis
77 Post contains links EI787 : Here's the RTE Story on EI and B6: http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0206/aerlingus.html?rss[Edited 2007-02-06 18:11:00]
78 Danny : Why not this? (north America)B6---> (Longhoul to Europe)EI----->(Shorthaul Europe)EI
79 Provance : Ya, I thought Mccormacks logic was a tad skewed too[Edited 2007-02-06 18:07:44]
80 Post contains images Rineanna : Yes, I know, but I was just suprized to hear they'd actually started flying into Alicante itself, I never thought I'd see the day! I suppose Madrid a
81 Toulouse : I see what you mean... I suppose they must be getting good fees in Spain. Anyway all (nearly all) airport in Spain are all run by the same state enti
82 Post contains images EI321 : So EI becomes JetGreen........ MkII  [Edited 2007-02-06 19:06:24]
83 COEI2007 : I wonder will Jetblue be offering flights from the US, connecting in Dublin to EI's european flights, like eg RIC-JFK with Jetblue and JFK-DUB-MAD wit
84 Rineanna : That's a good idea, If it wasn't for that start-up failure FlyJetGreen that came about a couple of years ago and kinda blackened that name!! Yes, I'd
85 Provance : from what I've read about JetBlue there'll be significant differences between JetBlues s/h product and EI's s/h product - I'd dont think the Yanks wou
86 Post contains images Shamrock350 : The aerlingus.com US site has a nice image of the shamrock on the front page's St. Patrick's "month" sale. The Aer Lingus "Irish" image is much more d
87 AerArann : If memory serves me correct, FR used to serve ALC from DUB previously, before we got all the new routes, during the phase they claimed "No New DUB Ro
88 Post contains images Rineanna : Really??!! Did they cancel it as a result of this protest so, or was there another reason?
89 Poitin : While I hope that EI remains independent of FR, that is not a high probability, therefore opening the whole idea of a LOCO international network such
90 Shamrock350 : B6 I agree this is a great move by EI and DM with the problems of unions and availability of A330s I'm glad EI are moving forward. One question, when
91 EIBoston : I'm flying SNN-LHR-BOS next week with AA. What happens with the charge for checked baggage? My flight from SNN-LHR is marketed as AA 8021 but of cours
92 Kaitak : JetBlue has an immensely modern and up to date IFE system, which is leagues ahead of EI (and indeed, virtually all carriers, except probably EK); the
93 Smokeyrosco : Indeed, but this is how they are going to fill the extra capacity on the existing US routes. I think EI should get more from this alliance then they
94 Post contains images BrianDromey : I dont really understand the way slots work, its one per flight number, right? but I think that EI have a lot more than 13 considering that they have
95 EIBoston : Thanks Brian! Will that apply to sports equipment(golf clubs in my case)? Or will I have to pay the 30 euro fee on the SNN-LHR leg?
96 ClassicLover : EI haven't left oneworld yet. They are still in the alliance until April 1. When you're flying on an AA flight number, you're essentially under the A
97 EIBoston : I did call AA and they said that under their rules I am allowed to check in golf clubs as one of my checked in bags. But they also said that EI could
98 ClassicLover : Yes, this is due to the fact that some EI ground staff often have absolutely no idea about what is and isn't permitted. I've had them tell me they ca
99 AC747 : FR's two new routes sched ex DUB : ALC - starts 02/05 - FR7062 - DepDUB 1330 - 13567 BRE - starts 11/05 - FR2906 - DepDUB 1140 - 1357
100 Post contains links OA260 : Ok guys last weekends trip report ( My second T/R ) I hope you like it. Includes aerial pics of Dublin Airport. Let me know what you think. DUBLIN-ZUR
101 Poitin : How many 330's did DM buy lately? How many IFE's did they upgrade lately? The answer seems to be none, suggesting a lack of cash. Perhaps I am wrong
102 EIBoston : I agree. I think there is a serious cash issue at EI. Folks on here have for months talked about the big l/h order. Also mentioned is the order of 33
103 Kaitak : I think they have been, or are in the process of, updating IFE and cabin interiors on the 332s. They have also been fitting crew rest areas to the 33
104 Pilot21 : Guys, they just floated last Sept, and haven't spent any of that money on new aircraft yet (which is why they floated). While costs maybe high, they
105 Provance :
106 Al2637 : I think we're all getting a bit carried away with this JetBlue thing... seems even they didn't know too much about it!
107 Kaitak : I saw this on Finfacts; this is not terribly impressive. It's very unlike EI to jump the gun like this and surely can't look very professional to inve
108 Shamrock350 : I think the Aer Lingus - JetBlue alliance will be good for EI and will bring passenger numbers up after the recent fall in load factors. It's clear th
109 Post contains links EI787 : Problems with EI due to today's weather: http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0207/weather.html?rss How is it that only EI are affected by a de-icer malfunctio
110 Poitin : While E300 million may seem to be a big pile of money, it is not very much when A 330s cost about E90 Million, if the numbers I have seen are right.
111 Toulouse : So true. Not taht I'd mind having it, but as you say Poitin, it is not actually that huge an amount of money despite the fact that is does probably p
112 Post contains links Rineanna : More trouble ahead for EI: Aer Lingus in breach of agreement, says SIPTU "SIPTU has said it will not enter talks with Aer Lingus management on cost-cu
113 EIBoston : The unions are going to cripple EI. I bet MOL is smiling right now. If (sorry when) FR takes over EI, will they have to deal with the unions? Or will
114 Post contains images AerArann : FR going 5x Daily DUB-ORK Its Obvious Now FR are out to run RE off the route
115 Shamrock350 : Has Aer Lingus taken the Jetblue news of it's site? I cant find it but I did see it on another computer today. Sadly that's true! It's not certain tha
116 EI787 : It appears that they have! Hmm..I wonder did B6 get onto EI and tell them to take it off seeing as they still haven't formally agreed on anything??
117 Shamrock350 : Hopefully it hasn't destroyed any chance of an agreement being reached. Aer Lingus are still in talks with fewer that 5 airlines so maybe there is mo
118 Kaitak : It seems that Jet Blue has now acknowledged this. It was just a matter of timing it better, but it will happen. I don't think the union demand is insu
119 Shamrock350 : Does Aer Lingus repaint their A330s every year around this time of year? I noticed EI-LAX is looking good after it's visit to Filton a few weeks ago a
120 Post contains images Poitin : Toulouse, you caught something I missed. Just what comments? Generally, I share your concerns, but it is just gut feeling. You appear to have seen so
121 EIBoston : Sorry! No contest as MOL won't even talk to them!
122 Kaitak : I certainly don't see EI failing, nor indeed do I see FR taking over EI. In fact, as absurd as it may seem, I'd be more worried about FR's future than
123 COEI2007 : I was thinking the same thing! 5 daily is a lot! Add to this RE operating up to 7 daily on this route!!! Thats a lot of seats for Dublin to Cork!!!
124 JWMD123 : Just of topic but if EI have that money sitting on deposit since the IPO (roughly 137 days) and were getting an interest rate of 4%, they would have
125 OA260 : Oh if only !!!! If I woke up one morning and FR were bust Id go dancing in the streets naked !!!!lol
126 Shamrock350 : Unfortunately if a fatal crash happened involving Ryanair, the airline would suffer very badly. People joke about how Ryanair pilots are a bit wild on
127 BrianDromey : Interestingly enough there was quite a bit in the current "Flight". The UK's CAA were less than impressed with the IAA s response to incidents at ORK
128 Kaitak : I don't think we should ever wish for a fatal accident, but what I am saying is that the consequences for the airline would be severe; MO'L has indica
129 BrianDromey : I agree, no-one here wants to see ANY accidents...BUT if there is a culture in ANY airline, be it FR, U2, or any other carrier, LO-CO or otherwise, w
130 Smokeyrosco : Hear hear, I sorry to say that even in the world of Aviation the Irish are begrudgers (to use Berties words), If anyone has solid info on EI please s
131 Smokeyrosco : Do you really think any Airline including FR are going to sell 42 seats on an aircraft for 10 euro?.... no no I mean really?
132 Kaitak : Remember that FR tends to sell a certain number of seats - the first ones - for a small fare, so it really only gets to high fares when the aircraft i
133 BrianDromey : Yes. In my experience FR always have 0.99 + tax, so about 10 E.W. These are fares about a week in advance, so yes I would expect all seats to be less
134 OA260 : I have to say if there was an FR crash they media would have a field day and so would FR's enemies of which are many!!! Obviously no one would want to
135 Post contains links EI787 : A RAF plane made an emergency landing at SNN this evening: http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0207/shannon.html?rss
136 Post contains images Rineanna : All the anti-war nuts will be out in force tonight, axes in hand!!!    Just read over on PPRUNE that apparently Ethiad are to announce the long awa
137 EI321 : Its possible, the first seats to go on FR flights are always the cheapest! Either way, theres no way they made money on that flight. Lets say they we
138 Smokeyrosco : And do you think that on all routes that x amount of seats are sold at y price? Ok tell you what, book ORK-DUB return tomorrow and let me know how mu
139 Post contains images BrianDromey : Fares for: Fri, 09 Feb 07 Flight 9842 07:40 Depart Cork (ORK) 08:30 Arrive Dublin (DUB Total Cost of Flight excluding handling fee (if applicable) cl
140 Post contains links Kaitak : Etihad is expected to announce today confirmation and details of its first services between DUB and AUH. The route is expected to operate 4 times week
141 Planemanofnz : I'm hoping for a daily 345/346/77W service but I know it will probably be a thrice weekly 332. Hopefully the aircraft will have PTV's! Anyone here go
142 Toulouse : Hi Poitin. I was simply referring to AI2367's post (reply 106) see below. By the way AI2637, what was the source of this clip? Can't wait to get the
143 Post contains images Shamrock350 : well I have a snowday here in London! Great to hear about Etihad, hopefully by the time the route starts EI and Etihad will have PTVs in all their A33
144 Al2637 : The quote about JetBlue was from the Irish Times. Guys, enough of the doom and gloom about Ryanair. Let's just fave up to the fact that they are Irela
145 Post contains links Shamrock350 : Aer Lingus January Traffic Statistics are out. Load Factor keeps dropping on both Short-haul and Long-haul. January 2007 Short-haul 63.2% Long-haul 70
146 Planemanofnz : Not too good at all. How much do they need to break even?
147 Smokeyrosco : I got my hands on an OSI map of Dublin airport today and i got my ruler out... At the 10 end of 10/28 there is just under 1KM to the road on the 28 en
148 Post contains images Pe@rson : I know you're Irish and all, but you really need not share how small you are with the rest of us.
149 Post contains images Smokeyrosco : It couldn't be small, I had to mesure it on an OSI map
150 Post contains images Pe@rson : Let's not tell the rest of the Aer Lingus Fan Club that OSI really means: Oppressively Small Instrument.
151 Toulouse : I wouldn't really worry too much about that considering January is low season.
152 Shamrock350 : I did think it was fine for January as it's usually less than normal lets just hope these new improvements to long-hual keep the LF up throughout the
153 Smokeyrosco : Fortunatly the figures are not really that bleak, They had more passangers, higher revenue per passanger and more seats to sell compared to last year
154 Shamrock350 : I have a small problem with aerlingus.com and flight disruptions. I notice that on Ryanair's website they have notices for delays on the front page, w
155 JWMD123 : Just had a quick scout on the FR website and it is showing that they have 91 cancellations today. That is going to have a big knock on revenue for one
156 OA260 : Etihad Airways will begin non- stop flights in August between Abu Dhabi and the Irish capital Dublin. Flying a three class Airbus A330-200 aircraft, t
157 OA260 : Hmmm great im off the 3-6 August !!! Im gonna try to get on this first flight!!
158 Smokeyrosco : Ok now add in Luggage fees, advance bording fees and the possibility of some renting a car and/or buying something on the aircraft, but also maybe th
159 Dstc47 : Kaitak This thread - is already over the weight limit for take-off from Dublin's finest airport (almost) only runway. - over the checked baggage limit
160 EI787 : I like the idea of EY operating a morning and evening flight, altering between the two. Can't wait to fly with them!!! Welcome to Ireland, Etihad!
161 Pilot21 : I'd say it has more to do with ramp congestion & a lack of spare gates on the various days rather then a natural wish to have 2 evening and 2 morning
162 BrianDromey : Im not going to argue here, but, the reality is that the return flights are not full, plenty of seats at those price in each direction. ORK-DUB is a
163 Pilot21 : EK isn't here yet, just GF and EY, so EI could still sort out a codeshare with EK and add on a ton of OZ/NZ and Asian destinations to their timetable
164 BrianDromey : Well, OK, but you know what I mean. EY flights are not currently bookable, neither is SYD. SYD is in the booking engine, just comes up as "flight ful
165 Poitin : I certainly hope you are correct. It would be good to have the money ready, when, -- whenever that may be -- DM orders them. Now if he would only get
166 Post contains links and images EI787 : I believe that the DAA have added new pictures of Terminal 2 to their website: You may have seen some of them before, but I believe quite a few of the
167 Post contains images Rineanna : In the fourth picture down, am I seeing a big pond beside the bus stop??? Or are the DAA innovating and installing an outdoor heated swimming pool ou
168 EI787 : Yeah, I was trying to figure that out as well. I think it might just be a water feature like a pond as you said!!
169 Kaitak : The new DUB route will be operated by a 332 in a three class configuration; to my knowledge, the newest 330s being delivered to the airline are in th
170 Post contains links Kaitak : Roll up for Irish Aviation 8/07! It's Irish - It's Aeronautical - It's Thread 8/07! (by Kaitak Feb 8 2007 in Civil Aviation)
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