ADXMatt From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 933 posts, RR: 2 Reply 1, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4559 times:
It'll last until the subsidies run out.
I'm assuming that New Haven coughed up some sort of incentives for a new entrant.
Turpentyine From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 154 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4306 times:
How is that airline doing overall? Whats it like flying on them? It probably the only US airline that still operates 727s for regular scheduled services.
Spinkid From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1001 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3889 times:
What kind of market is there from Elmira to New Haven?
Interesting also that New Haven doesn't show up on the route map on their web site, but you can book it in their reservation system.
HVNandrew From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 405 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3835 times:
Quoting Spinkid (Reply 3): Interesting also that New Haven doesn't show up on the route map on their web site, but you can book it in their reservation system.
It was on the route map on Monday and Tuesday. It seems it's been taken off. :s
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79 Reply 5, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3696 times:
MtnWest1979 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 2122 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3650 times:
I see there is ONE 727 flight Elmira to Sanford on Feb 19, but no return and that is the only flight listed.
FlyAAS80 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 68 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3620 times:
I saw one of the pseudo Pan Am 727's on short final into ORD last week. Made me take a double and then a triple take to see the Pan Am colors here again.
The question I have is how large is their fleet???
The only way to fly is by the seat of your pants...
Tsnamm From United States of America, joined May 2005, 602 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3491 times:
How on earth do they manage to stay in business? Let alone making a mockery of the PAN AM moniker...
PanAmOldDC8 From Barbados, joined Dec 2006, 960 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3406 times:
Quoting HVNandrew (Thread starter): Pan Am Clipper Connection will begin service to New Haven from BWI, Bedford, MA, Elmira, NY, Portsmouth, NH on March 8, with their 19 passenger J31's.
Hope they don't screw up the name, I worked for them and was damned proud of it
Mush From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 97 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3401 times:
Quoting PanAmOldDC8 (Reply 9): Hope they don't screw up the name, I worked for them and was damned proud of it
I hope they don't screw up the name anymore than they already have.
The new Pan Am is nothing like her glorious predecessor.
AA623BDLSJU From Puerto Rico, joined Aug 2003, 354 posts, RR: 2 Reply 11, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3117 times:
I haven't been to A.net in quite some time now and the first thing I went to search was for any news regarding HVN and I stumbled upon this tastey vittle. I was quite skeptical about this news until I went to the airport website, http://www.flytweed.com, and see for myself. I am actually a bit surprised that PA Clipper Connection wants to commence service out of my hometown. I can see the sense in having the service HVN-BWI and HVN-BED, but I don't see the reason to have a HVN-ELM. Surely, Pan Am has there reasons to begin this market and perhaps they feel they should have a test run.
I kinda miss having DL for that matter, for I thought they were doing well. Maybe, if the service to BWI is successful it may bring in interest from WN.
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79 Reply 13, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2995 times:
Quoting Tsnamm (Reply 8): How on earth do they manage to stay in business?
They are backed by a small but extremely profitable rail company, not to mention charter contracts.
Quoting PanAmOldDC8 (Reply 9): Hope they don't screw up the name, I worked for them and was damned proud of it
They screwed up that name the moment they bought it.
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DeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3623 posts, RR: 11 Reply 14, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2856 times:
Are they even running the 727s on scheduled flights anymore?
Actually, the service was good. For what turned out to be such a shoddy operation, they did try hard on their in-flight service. Here's the trip report from my LCK-SFB-LCK trip a couple summers ago, including photos. http://www.airliners.net/discussions/trip_reports/read.main/60423
Swissy From Switzerland, joined Jan 2005, 1734 posts, RR: 5 Reply 18, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2434 times:
Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 17): Has this new "Pan Am" something to do with the old one?
Not at all.... , however how about "we" the crazy a.neters put some bling bling in a "rescue to glory Pan Am" pot and we make the new "Pan AM" an offer........ I know it is a idea........
BatonOps From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 724 posts, RR: 4 Reply 19, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2327 times:
I just checked www.flypanam.com and they don't show anything about serving HVN. I know when they announced ELM service it was on their route map immediatley.
TrijetsRMissed From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2099 posts, RR: 6 Reply 20, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2290 times:
Quoting FlyAAS80 (Reply 7): I saw one of the pseudo Pan Am 727's on short final into ORD last week.
Wow, I didn't know PA was operating out of ORD. Was it a charter? If it's scheduled service, where to?
Quoting Mush (Reply 10): The new Pan Am is nothing like her glorious predecessor.
Ain't it the truth.
Quoting PanAmOldDC8 (Reply 9): Hope they don't screw up the name, I worked for them and was damned proud of it
I think even casual travelers who flew back in the old Pan Am's glory days know the new incarnation is fake. Isn't this the 2nd Pan Am rip-off since the original ceased operations in '91? I remember another reincarnation of the name in the late '90s with a couple of old A300's.
Quoting N1120A (Reply 13): They screwed up that name the moment they bought it.
It is what it is. But even still, the service can't be worse than any other legacy carrier nowadays. I for one am just happy someone is still flying 727's.
INTENSS From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 317 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2200 times:
Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 20): Wow, I didn't know PA was operating out of ORD. Was it a charter? If it's scheduled service, where to?
Charter.
Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 20): It is what it is. But even still, the service can't be worse than any other legacy carrier nowadays.
Their service is/was better than other legacy carriers today.
Flew them about a year ago SFB-ATL. Very good service, arrived on time, plane was absolutely full.....though mostly with Vacation Express' chump fares.
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79 Reply 22, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2194 times:
Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 20): But even still, the service can't be worse than any other legacy carrier nowadays.
It isn't about the inflight service, it is about what a sh!t show the whole operation is.
Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 20): I for one am just happy someone is still flying 727's.
Never liked the 727, though I do like the way the MD-11-esque winglets look on them.
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TrijetsRMissed From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2099 posts, RR: 6 Reply 23, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2160 times:
Positiverate From United States of America, joined May 2005, 1590 posts, RR: 9 Reply 24, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2043 times:
Quoting AA623BDLSJU (Reply 11): Maybe, if the service to BWI is successful it may bring in interest from WN.
Don't bet the mortgage on it. There's probably no situation in which WN would come to HVN.
Quoting ADXMatt (Reply 1): It'll last until the subsidies run out.
Exactly. Same reason DL came and went.
25 Richierich: I agree. Despite the city of New Haven having a decent population, especially considering the immediate shoreline towns to the east and west, and, of
26 Positiverate: Spot on observations. The City has doen NOTHING to support air service to its airport.
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