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Is Doug Steenland Out As NWA CEO After BK Exit?  
User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4028 posts, RR: 11
Posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2913 times:

Some are speculating that Doug Steenland's days as CEO at NW might be numbered after the carrier exits Chapter 11 later this year: http://www.twincities.com/mld/pioneerpress/16610758.htm
While the workers at DL are more endeared now to Gerald Grinstein after he saved off a hostile takeover bid by HP/US and Doug Parker, the atmosphere between Steenland and the rank-n-file at NW is supposedly a hopeless case of irreversible poison. Any NW insiders have any take on this one?


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User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7405 posts, RR: 50
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2833 times:
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Quoting SLCUT2777 (Thread starter):
Some are speculating that Doug Steenland's days as CEO at NW might be numbered after the carrier exits Chapter 11 later this year:
http://www.twincities.com/mld/pionee...8.htm

Yes, He will be leaving the company as CEO when we exit bankruptcy. Phill Haan is expected to be in the front seat for the CEO spot. If not him, then Neal Cohen will most likely take over.



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User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5647 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2823 times:

Quite a few months ago, in an articl in Airways magazine, a pilot wrote that Steenland only gave NWA a year longer for his terror. I guess it's been 6-7 months now, so, if NWA exits bankruptcy, Steenland is gone. Maybe someone the likes of Mesa Air can pick him up...yuck..


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User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4028 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2792 times:

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 2):
Maybe someone the likes of Mesa Air can pick him up...yuck..

His Amway Convention style of management will work well with Mesa!  irked 



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User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7405 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2785 times:
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Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 2):
Maybe someone the likes of Mesa Air can pick him up...yuck..

I think he'll go into politics, not another airline.



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User currently offlineAzjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3888 posts, RR: 28
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2772 times:

Neil Cohen will be awful busy running both Compass and NWA! IT's time for fresh blood that can bring a breath of fresh air to the red tails. Incidently Spanjers and his "SLT" will be leaving Mesaba when they exit Ch 11 as well. The scary part is the question of who will replace him? It likely can't get much worse!

AZJ


User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7529 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2762 times:

Quoting Azjubilee (Reply 5):
It likely can't get much worse!

thats the Good news.

Quoting Azjubilee (Reply 5):
Neil Cohen will be awful busy running both Compass and NWA! IT's time for fresh blood that can bring a breath of fresh air to the red tails. Incidently Spanjers and his "SLT" will be leaving Mesaba when they exit Ch 11 as well. The scary part is the question of who will replace him?

I'm sure that you and I will agree on, both of us can hope that NW gets a CEO like Gordon. NW has a lot of potential, its just letting that potential come out.



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User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7405 posts, RR: 50
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2730 times:
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Quoting Azjubilee (Reply 5):
Neil Cohen will be awful busy running both Compass and NWA!

Well, many believe he's only the head of Compass to get it up and running which it already is, in the name of Mesaba which I think will change it's name to Compass. Coen did the same thing with MidAtlantic Airways, once it was upand going, he moved on. I think he'll move into the CEO's chair if Phil Haan doesn't. I don't think that Gary Wilson wants an outside influence coming in and wrecking his operation he has going. NWA has a habit of grooming internally their leadership. It will be a long time before an outsider comes in.

Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 6):
I'm sure that you and I will agree on, both of us can hope that NW gets a CEO like Gordon. NW has a lot of potential, its just letting that potential come out.

We all wish upon a star like in Disneyworld, but remember Gary Wilson sat as Chairman of their board also.



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User currently offlineLawnDart From United States of America, joined May 2005, 970 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2708 times:

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 1):
Phill Haan is expected to be in the front seat for the CEO spot. If not him, then Neal Cohen will most likely take over.

So, what do NW people think of these two? Are they considered more of the same, or are their styles of management different enough that they are individuals NW rank and file can appreciate?


User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5647 posts, RR: 24
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2708 times:

Quoting Azjubilee (Reply 5):
IT's time for fresh blood that can bring a breath of fresh air to the red tails.

Someone PLEASE resurrect Don Nyrop!

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 7):
NWA has a habit of grooming internally their leadership.

Steenland was an insider?



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User currently offlineArt at ISP From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 180 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2699 times:

Haven't you got the memo? Doug Parker will be the next CEO, after merging with NWA........

Just kidding, but maybe not.........


User currently offlineAviatorTJ From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1838 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2675 times:

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 7):

Well, many believe he's only the head of Compass to get it up and running which it already is, in the name of Mesaba which I think will change it's name to Compass.

I was thinking it would be similar to what you were guessing. The Pioneer Press offered this link up today, so there might actually be something to this Compass Airlines. (Terrible logo).

www.compassairline.com


User currently offlineFlyDreamliner From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2759 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2641 times:

Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 6):
Quoting Azjubilee (Reply 5):
Neil Cohen will be awful busy running both Compass and NWA! IT's time for fresh blood that can bring a breath of fresh air to the red tails. Incidently Spanjers and his "SLT" will be leaving Mesaba when they exit Ch 11 as well. The scary part is the question of who will replace him?

I'm sure that you and I will agree on, both of us can hope that NW gets a CEO like Gordon. NW has a lot of potential, its just letting that potential come out.

Amen to that, we need a great, bold, visionary leader. Even Richard Anderson wasn't so terrible, and was liked well enough by the employees so far as I had heard. NW has more untapped potential than any airline in this country, and I'd love to see it go to some use. In a perfect world they'd have a widebody fleet of 120 (50 A330, 50 787, 20 747) and would have broad european and asian networks as well as maintaining their huge power presence into AMS and NRT, and their broad domestic networks. Heck, they could open any number of latin american / south american routes, and would build on their powerful route structure into Hawaii as United backs off. Also, their west coast presence should be fostered further.

NW is poised for great things.

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 9):
Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 7):
NWA has a habit of grooming internally their leadership.

Steenland was an insider?

He's been with the company for roughly fifteen years.



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User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7405 posts, RR: 50
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2476 times:
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Quoting LawnDart (Reply 8):

So, what do NW people think of these two? Are they considered more of the same, or are their styles of management different enough that they are individuals NW rank and file can appreciate?

Well, noone really knows very much about either. Neal Cohen is looked at as part of the dreamteam that thought up this idea of Compass, the outsourcing, and the concessionary contract. He's no very much liked. He was here at NWA through the 1990's until 2000, where he went to US Airways. He returned in 2004 to take the current position as CFO.
Phil Haan, he's another mystery-man. He's been running an entity (NWA Cargo, and alliances) that has very contact with a union labour force since all the logistical labour is handled by NWA ground workers. His is all administration. That's why many think these 2 guys are in the on-deck circle for the CEO position. We'll see.

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 9):
Someone PLEASE resurrect Don Nyrop!

It amazes me that some think that Don Nyrop was some kind of Juan Trippe or another airline visionary. Don Nyrop is considered one of the big reasons NWA has never gotten along with management since his reign.



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User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5647 posts, RR: 24
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2434 times:

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 13):
It amazes me that some think that Don Nyrop was some kind of Juan Trippe or another airline visionary. Don Nyrop is considered one of the big reasons NWA has never gotten along with management since his reign.

I dont think of him as a Juan Trippe, but he did know how to run an airline on a shoestring.



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User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4985 posts, RR: 28
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2389 times:

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 1):
Yes, He will be leaving the company as CEO when we exit bankruptcy. Phill Haan is expected to be in the front seat for the CEO spot. If not him, then Neal Cohen will most likely take over.

I must say that I am not a big fan of Steeland. I found some of his moves on the employees to be very frustrating. I am sure his departure will be an expensive one, and I doubt he will lose a wink of sleep when he cashes it out.

But, I am also glad to hear that NW will exit BK. I am really pulling for NW, and I hope that things get better for the employees. The employees really got hit on this, and I hope they get rewarded for their efforts.



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User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5647 posts, RR: 24
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2364 times:

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 15):
But, I am also glad to hear that NW will exit BK. I am really pulling for NW, and I hope that things get better for the employees. The employees really got hit on this, and I hope they get rewarded for their efforts.

 bigthumbsup  Excellent reply...



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User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4028 posts, RR: 11
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2290 times:

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 15):
I must say that I am not a big fan of Steeland.

There aren't many who are!

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 15):
I am sure his departure will be an expensive one, and I doubt he will lose a wink of sleep when he cashes it out.

Is any CEO's departure, especially a pre-mature one cheap in this day and age? AA's Don Carty being the lone scape-goat. They booted him for a bonus program, and he got nothing but a "Don't Let the Door hit You in the A$$ on the Way Out!" Something DL should have done to Leo Mullin.



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User currently offlineLucky42 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2229 times:

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 15):
I am sure his departure will be an expensive one, and I doubt he will lose a wink of sleep when he cashes it out.

You can bet on that...Problem is anyone who takes his place will not be a whole lot better. They (execs) are all cut from roughly the same cloth. Just that some are more ruthless than others. I remember when Al Checchi and this band of clowns running nwa now took over. At the time rumor was that nw was in danger of a LBO and being piece mealed and the Asia routes sold off so Checchi was seen as a kind of white knight. I remember him coming to see us and seeing all the anti Lorenzo pins at the time and him saying "Gee I hope I don't have my name on one of those pins". Well his team was not much better than Lorenzo in my book. But anyway you slice it Steenland has to go to make any employee relations have a chance because the climate is too venomous for him to continue as CEO if they really want to rebuild the airline.


User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7521 posts, RR: 28
Reply 19, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2206 times:

Anyone remember Dasburg......hahaha, Mr. Burger King.

Anderson did a lot of things right, but he wasn't the right guy to take NW through Ch. 11. Hence why they put Steeland in the driver's seat, and let him go to town with the chainsaw, the axe, and the hunting knife. Whether you like it or not, he was doing what the board demanding, although some of the tactics weren't the best. Steeland has accomplished what he was set to do, and someone had to play the role of the bad guy in this case.

Its time for a change, and get rid of all the bad blood.


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